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Atticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 09:50 PM Original message |
My wife and I flew this week for the first time since 9-11 and the trumped up "security measures" |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. There are many reasons why I no longer call this the |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
61. Agreed. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 01:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
67. Yes, it's now the land of little children who need to be coddled and protected. |
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CaliforniaPeggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 09:55 PM Response to Original message |
2. Well said... |
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CurtEastPoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
3. I flew International this month and I was amazed |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 10:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Lack of farm work |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 10:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. .... |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 10:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. TSA= Thousands Standing Around |
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gmoney (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 03:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
69. nice... |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 11:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
24. I just look at them all |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
72. Yeah,there is a crowd of 'em |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 04:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
73. Is the TSA a teahadist make-work project? |
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2Design (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
5. I feel violated and raped by these tactics every where while the criminals |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 12:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
35. It's why we prefer to drive. Luckily for us we can do this |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 06:54 AM Response to Reply #35 |
47. last summer we drove to cape cod from texas. this spring to SF. it was great |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 06:58 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. and the hassle factor goes WAAAAY down |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 07:10 AM Response to Reply #49 |
52. yes yes yes. it has been great, something we would have missed out on. the biggest for me |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 09:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
84. it's an international world |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 11:53 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. I've lived abroad, and have traveled a lot.. perhaps I am not as "achieved" as you are, my dear |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
6. in most places, I have found that the 'trumped up' measures have dropped |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #6 |
58. That reminds me of one of my favorite stories of the Nat'l Guard... |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
7. Shrub: "GD piece of paper" and Gonzo(?)'s (or YOO's?) "quaint" |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
8. Welcome to the club. I had to fly a lot inside the country during my mom's declining years. Stupid |
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DaveinJapan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 10:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. I was asked to remove my shoes once at Tokyo-Narita airport |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 11:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
29. And the rules changed according to airports! |
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dickthegrouch (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 12:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
34. I also have TSA-approved locks; but |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 12:49 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. I got key-type locks from Magellan's Travel. ? I thought the combo locks had key access for TSA |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
9. you know what makes me nuts about it? i look at all that technology and |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 10:12 PM Response to Original message |
10. Here's a contrast- Ms. Depa and I flew to Perth from Sydney and back |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 11:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. How? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 12:14 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. El cheapo airlines- Virgin Blue |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:39 AM Response to Reply #33 |
41. Tingle tree? Does it make you tingle? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 06:37 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. If you like big old ancient trees it'll take your breath away |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #43 |
66. Wow. THANK YOU. |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 07:25 AM Response to Reply #10 |
54. Wow, you live in Australia? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 05:33 AM Response to Reply #54 |
86. Not sure about historians, per se, but if you can cook regional Mexican food, Australia needs you! |
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Go2Peace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
11. You did not know about this? |
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Atticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 10:20 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. I may have to endure it again, but I vow to NEVER get used to it. And, yes, |
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NRaleighLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
12. It's incredibly ridiculous. I remember talking to an AA flight attendant |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 12:46 AM Response to Reply #12 |
38. I remember talking to a United flight attendant |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 05:48 AM Response to Reply #38 |
87. I'd forgotten--they did used to have magazines -- that is idiotic! |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
13. the gel and shoes thing is stupid. I dodged a bullet last time |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
17. welcome to the world of air travel...been dealing with it for nine years. pain in the ass. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
18. All of these silly 'security' |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. They are poorly trained, poorly paid, aren't allowed to form a union, and have high turnover. |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 11:17 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. How |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 06:46 AM Response to Reply #26 |
44. don't work for govt, then |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 07:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
76. Except that we peons are not supposed to mail liquids via the Post Ofc - notice how |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
20. It is really sad because it is all window dressing and nonsense while |
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Patiod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:05 AM Response to Reply #20 |
56. A lot of frequent fliers refer to it as Security Theater |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #56 |
70. I wouldn't know - I haven't been on a plane in over 15 years, and have no plans to be on one again. |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 07:59 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. That happened to me -- grew up on planes then one flight I barely repressed an anxiety attack. |
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demosincebirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
22. I would rather have those rules than not. nt |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 12:34 AM Response to Reply #22 |
36. Oh, come on, |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 06:57 AM Response to Reply #22 |
48. some like to live under an illusion of safety. i dont get it. too pragmatic |
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demosincebirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
23. I would rather have those rules than not. nt |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 12:43 AM Response to Reply #23 |
37. because petty, ineffective exercises of power add much to the flying experience. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #37 |
62. Pretending to be secure makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
27. Flying the friendly skies |
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GoneOffShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
28. There are only two things that have increased safety on airplanes since 2001 |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 06:50 AM Response to Reply #28 |
45. complete rubbish |
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GoneOffShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:48 PM Response to Reply #45 |
68. Check with Bruce Schneier - a foremost security expert |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 04:30 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. the difference is this |
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Lugnut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
30. It's all nonsense. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-29-10 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
31. It's the people's fault. One week of no one flying as a protest |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
32. let me tell you of my HUMILIATION... |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #32 |
59. those |
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kcass1954 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #32 |
80. My brother was going thru security at some non-US airport and started to |
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Mojeoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 09:04 PM Response to Reply #32 |
81. Oh Canadians have been mocking Americans for a long time. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
40. In Japan, socks are supposed to remain clean! |
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Morning Dew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 02:41 AM Response to Original message |
42. for your enjoyment |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 06:53 AM Response to Original message |
46. i agree with your post. land of the cowards.... nt |
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RandomThoughts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 07:04 AM Response to Reply #46 |
51. There is a thing about some cowardice that many do not know. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 07:16 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. ha, i do enjoy random thought |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 07:03 AM Response to Original message |
50. I haven't flown since 9/11 either. Under the very best of circumstances, |
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Greyskye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
55. We stopped checking baggage after TSA stole a camera |
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Patiod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 10:08 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. I carry on everything of value |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
60. "unreasonable searches" isn't universal. |
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newtothegame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
63. Welcome to your government. Wonderful isn't it? nt |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
64. Welcome to 9 years ago nt |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
65. This line: |
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Rhiannon12866 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
71. K&R! I haven't flown since before 9/11... |
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drmeow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
75. One of the stupidest TSA moves |
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DemoTex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
78. I am a retired airline pilot, and I have flown only once since 9/11. |
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Maat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 11:49 AM Response to Reply #78 |
88. That's a very interesting story. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
79. I ignore the liquid/gel prohibition all the time |
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Citizen Worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
82. Pre and Post 9/11 |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-30-10 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
83. Deleted message |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
90. Uh.... this post is almost a decade out of date. |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 06:50 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Uh...not if the posted hadn't flown since 9/11, as he stated. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 06:53 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. (shrug) Well I'm glad Rip Van Winkle finally woke up.... |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 06:57 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. I think when a person experiences the situation, it impacts harder |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 07:17 PM Response to Reply #94 |
95. It was a wrong number. They're looking for people who aren't familiar with major news a decade ago. |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 07:27 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Get over it. The OP posted a relevant piece. Until we address the |
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femmocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-01-10 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
93. We no longer fly either. |
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