Did George Bush receive an honorary knighthood in 2003?

[Venus Dog]

This from a September 23, 2003 White House Press Conference with Scott McClellan

Q: Scott, a few questions, please, on the international troops to Iraq, any more international troops. Is there a deadline? Is there any financial incentives for these countries to join? And on your statement about the state visit to the United Kingdom, you mentioned President Reagan's visit when he received an honorary knighthood. Is President Bush about to receive an honorary knighthood?

MR. McCLELLAN: You might want to talk to United Kingdom. I don't know what their plans are in terms of all the details of the state visit.

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=61166 (scroll 3/4 way down)

George H.W. Bush received an honorary knighthood (not sure of year)

Americans who have received honorary knighthoods include former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, Steven Spielberg and former presidents George Bush and Ronald Reagan.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/2328763.stm

These stories being put out about how George is taking etiquette lessons and having to be convinced to wear a tuxedo for the Queen's visit are all BULLSHIT people! The corporate media is pushing the image of how Lord Hissyfit is so "downhome". Bush has worn a tux on many occasions - just look on Google images. SHEEESH!

Junior was born in New Haven, CT - not Texas and he attended private boarding schools in Connecticut his entire life. Do you really think Ma Bush would let her little darlings be raised in such a bodunk place as Texas! Let's get real people!

[El Supremo]

1. He received the "Order of Eat my Garter" n/m

[rpannier]

3. He's also the recepient of

the Royal Nuthood 1st Crass

[rpannier]

2. That's a crappy list of Americans who havve received Knighthoods

Confirms for me where the royal families politics lay.

[GRLMGC]

5. They don't choose who gets knighthoods

The government does.

[rpannier]

8. Thanks for the info

I was unaware of that.
I thought the Royal Family in Consultation with the House of Lords did that.
I stand corrected

I've learned something new today.
Thank you.

[sarge43]

14. There's a couple of minor orders like the Royal Victorian

given for personal service to the monarch which the government doesn't care about. Otherwise, they're political.

[Monkeyman]

4. Sir Dumb Ass

[Solly Mack]

6. Thank you

[iamjoy]

7. Is That Constitutional

Article 1, Section 9

[Venus Dog]

12. No it is not constitutional. Thank you for understanding my point here!

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.

[melody]

13. They are honorary knighthoods, not actual ones

Clinton received one, too, as did Guiliani.

[sarge43]

15. American citizens can accept an honorary knighthood from a nation

with which the US has diplomatic relations. They may wear the insignia; service members are required to wear it on their uniform. They may display a knight's coat of arms. They cannot use the title in any official capacity.

[Venus Dog]

16. To be able to wear it on a service uniform IS an official capacity

And the Constitution states "title of any kind whatever" - be it honorary or otherwise. We wonder why these people act like they are above the law and it is for this very reason - they believe themselves to be specially ordained by God - exactly what monarchies inherently believe. I thought this was one of the great motivating principles behind the American Revolution - to banish the monarchy.

[sarge43]

18. Note the consent of Congress clause

And a knighthood, honorary or otherwise, is not a grant of nobility. And again, to use the title in an official capacity. When Colin Powell wears his greens with the knighthood badge tucked somewhere in the fruit salad, that doesn't make him General Sir Colin Powell.

The founders put that article in the USC to prevent the development of a hereditary peerage in this country which it has.

[meldroc]

9. I'll call him a lot of names, but "sir" isn't one of them. n/t

[dflprincess]

10. Downhome is one thing - sort of like being a "regular guy"

and maybe my definition of a regular guy is different from other people's. But the regular guys I know know when they need to dress up (even if they don't like it) and they know not to chew with their mouths open and they would know to behave like a civilized human being if they ever met the Queen of England. If nothing else, they'd behave decently just because most "regular guys" were raised to treat an elderly person with respect.

Bush is just coming off like the Neanderthal he is and showing what a poor upbringing he had.

[rpannier]

11. I think they are having to convince him to wear a tux

I heard he wants to wear his "Commander Guy" costume.

[rasputin1952]

17. I still think he's an asshole, no matter how he's dressed...

Clothes DO NOT make the man. There has to be a man to fill out the clothes.

I thought he had worn a tux before, but it seems to me, it is still a bun w/o the hotdog...x(

[johnfunk]

19. Sir Junior, Lord of Smirkington, Earl of Chucklenutz

An inbred New England Royal Chimptard.

[Venus Dog]

20. Exactly. He is certainly no Texan - it was all staged for the hoopleheads!

George W. Bush spent his childhood between the Bush homes in New York, Long Island and Connecticut; the family compound at Kennebunkport, Maine; the 10,000-acre plantation in South Carolina; and the island retreat in Florida, where their neighbors were Doubledays, Fords, Roosevelts and Vanderbilts.

"He may have a lifestyle of a Texan, but George W. is a social register Greenwich boy," says Roberts. Certainly, when it comes to American politics, there is a dynastic process at work here. It would appear that the political system often rewards the candidates who have DNA advantages in the form of a respected family name. Whether this tendency also serves to undermine the ideal of representative government open to all, however, is a matter for debate.

http://archive.salon.com/politics2000/feature/2000/03/31/bush/print.html

[Venus Dog]

21. Kick

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