Is Gulf oil rig disaster far worse than we're being told?

[G_j]

http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_59780.shtml

Is Gulf oil rig disaster far worse than we're being told?
By Mike Adams
Natural News
Monday, May 10, 2010

Reports about the massive Gulf of Mexico oil spill have been largely underestimated, according to commentators, including Paul Noel, a Software Engineer for the U.S. Army at Redstone Arsenal in Alabama. He believes that the pocket of oil that's been hit is so powerful and under so much pressure that it may be virtually impossible to contain it. And Noel is not the only person questioning the scope of this disaster.

A recent story from the Christian Science Monitor, reports that many independent scientists believe the leak is spewing far more than the 5,000 barrels, or 210,000 gallons, per day being reported by most media sources. They believe the leak could be discharging up to 25,000 barrels (more than one million gallons) of crude oil a day right now.

The riser pipe that was bent and crimped after the oil rig sank is restricting some of the flow from the tapped oil pocket, but as the leaking oil rushes into the well's riser, it is forcing sand with it at very high speeds and "sand blasting" the pipe (which is quickly eroding its structural integrity).

According to a leaked National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration memo obtained by an Alabama newspaper, , if the riser erodes any further and creates more leaks, up to 50,000 barrels, or 2.1 million gallons, per day of crude oil could begin flooding Gulf waters every day.

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article links to:
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/0501/C-mon-how-big-is-the-Gulf-of-Mexico-oil-spill-really

http://blog.al.com/live/2010/04/deepwater_horizon_secret_memo.html

[spanone]

1. we'll never know. it's out of the media's gaze, and there are no cameras to keep them honest

not that they ever were honest.

[Echo In Light]

3. We'll have to wait for alternative media coverage spanning time to gage it more accurately

[FreeJG]

12. Of course it's worse! The PROOF is in the media silence!!!

[marions ghost]

25. Absolutely

This silence is speaking volumes. That's when you know to be really scared --when the US media goes silent on a story that ought to be full of heroism and last-minute saves and communities "pulling together" and positive scenarios--all the stuff they like to whip up and sell....

It's the silence before the storm IMO.

[Codeine]

2. Natural News.

The WorldNetDaily of the woowoo Left.

[G_j]

4. you have a problem

with the two sources/links they are referring two?

[NNN0LHI]

13. Christian Science Monitor used to be one of my most used sources

Until they began linking to Freerepublic a few years ago.

After that I stopped reading their rag and using them for a source.

Don

[G_j]

17. I didn't know that

they linked to FR.

Of course, I have found that the NYT, WP etc. are also often propaganda outlets for the right.
What is one to do?

[NNN0LHI]

20. Here is a DU link to when they began doing it

http://www.democratunderground.org/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2810711

[SidDithers]

8. +1...

yet DU'ers love 'em.

Sid

[G_j]

11. the article specifically refers to two other sources

Would either of you care to comment? Or do you really think attacking the messenger will make them go away?

[G_j]

19. also

would you care to demonstrate your evidence that Natural News is "The WorldNetDaily of the woowoo Left."?
Just curious..

[Vinnie From Indy]

5. One would have to be completely oblivious to history to think that the truth is being told

As sure as the Sun rising in the east, this "spill" is probably FAR greater in volume than is being revealed.

[AllentownJake]

6. Of course it is

Every single disaster that has happened for the past 10 years has been under estimated and unanticipated.

You can tell a real shitstorm from one that is created by the media silence on it.

Swine Flu, fake shit storm.

Greece economic collapse, real shit storm.

[G_j]

7. You can tell a real shitstorm from one that is created by the media silence on it.

sad and infuriating, but true,

[ixion]

16. 'xactly

:applause:

[Juneboarder]

9. We'll read about the truth in the history books nt

[madokie]

10. You can about bet your ass on that

None of our energy giants are credible, they all lie like there is no tomorrow.

[cwydro]

14. I am positive it is worse.

They will never tell the truth until it becomes obvious.

[BarbaRosa]

15. The only things not under reported these days

would be Democrat scandals --real or imagined --.

[agent46]

18. For what it's worth

http://www.ecoshock.org/

[marions ghost]

32. that's an excellent link

good interviews with marine scientists, geologists and a former Shell executive.

:thumbsup:

[lonestarnot]

21. The silence is deafening and silence kills.

[felinetta]

22. It usually is much worse, but they won't be able to hide it very easily.

[CLANG]

23. Is there a chance that things are BETTER than we've been told?

No. Ergo, there is probably a VERY GOOD chance it is worse than we're told.

[jberryhill]

24. Cavitation is going to destroy the pipe, btw /nt

[blindpig]

26. This is capitalism.

Greece is capitalism.

Imperialism is capitalism.

Kill it.

[Kablooie]

27. If you were the head of BP and were responsible would YOU tell the press the worst?

What would be the benefit?

You would try to minimize the disaster and hope that you could get it under control before anyone found out the truth.

[Octafish]

28. BP is not known for telling the truth.

Dunno if this is a DU-trusted source, like The New York Times or TIME magazine or ABCNNBCBSFixedNoiseNutwork, but it does say what I haven't heard uttered by the rent-models of Corporate McPravda...

The Ugly Truth About BP and Its CEO

And they market themselves as green.

[The Old Creak]

31. Honesty

certainly has not been their strong-suit. The link below recounts their role in Exxon Valdez

http://smirkingchimp.com/thread/greg-palast/28588/the-gross-negligence-of-bp-oil-giants-trying-to-slick-its-way-out-of-controversy

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[Octafish]

33. The Best Policy

Thanks for the link. Palast is outstanding.

You might enjoy: The Black Wave - The Legacy of the Exxon Valdez. Saw it the other night on Planet Green cable TV. I'm still furious.

PS: A hearty welcome to DU, The Old Creak.

[G_j]

35. gtreen for $$$

(& LOL @ the NYT)

[Octafish]

36. You ever see this?

Lies Of Our Times -- LOOT PDF Archive.

Each issue shames the gray lady of record.

[G_j]

39. no I hadn't

I just checked out one issue, Awesome.

[sad sally]

29. And not much has been reported on the 11 who were killed.

As for the spewing oil, when it starts flowing around the Florida coast and gets carried along the eastern shores, maybe some of the truth will be revealed...or maybe not. Our form of government has never been known for its outright truthfulness to "we the people." Those "who need to know" will be told, the rest of us will be fed pabulum.

[Uncle Joe]

30. I would say there is approximately a 92.878% chance of it being worse.

This is a watershed event, there is nothing else like it in human history.

Thanks for the thread, G_j.

[lumberjack_jeff]

34. No. We're being told the real deal. 200,000 gallons per day, no solution in sight.

We just have trouble imagining a problem that human engineering can cause, but not solve.

[BeFree]

38. Thanks for your concern

We are undertaking a study and once we've run it through the 17 agencies that need to review the matter we will publish our findings. Next year sometime. Please, for your own benefit don't hold your breath.

[tekisui]

37. I think so. I think that explains why the chemical dispersant is the

preferred tactic. It makes it harder for the media to present the problem with an easy to understand picture. Oceans be damned, the image is of the utmost import.