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ck4829
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Tue Jan-30-07 07:36 PM Original message |
Should people who deny victims of rape birth control because of "religious objections"... |
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Ignacio Upton
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Tue Jan-30-07 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. They should be fired |
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DemBones DemBones
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Tue Jan-30-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Do you feel the same way about Muslim |
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The Magistrate
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Tue Jan-30-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Those Are Minor Impositions, Ma'am |
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DemBones DemBones
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Tue Jan-30-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. So Muslims have a right to live by their religious values but |
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liberalhistorian
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. And YOUR sanctioning of pharmacists and other medical |
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DemBones DemBones
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
30. As the Magistrate says, another taxi will be along shortly. |
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mondo joe
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Incorrect. Emergency contraception has a window of opportunity. NO ONE is |
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liberalhistorian
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. So, you would expect a woman who's been raped |
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DemBones DemBones
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:19 PM Response to Reply #36 |
43. No, I'd expect a rape victim to go to an ER and |
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tyedyeto
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:53 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. This person went to an ER and the drug was prescribed |
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liberalhistorian
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Tue Jan-30-07 11:38 PM Response to Reply #53 |
63. A certain poster's silence on this |
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fishwax
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:54 PM Response to Reply #43 |
57. in the case that inspired this question, the woman was in jail |
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liberalhistorian
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Tue Jan-30-07 11:36 PM Response to Reply #43 |
62. And what if the ER doc or other medical personnel |
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kestrel91316
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:11 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. People who don't believe in dispensing emergency contraception |
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DemBones DemBones
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Where do you stand on |
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The Magistrate
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:54 PM Response to Reply #30 |
55. In A Number Of Instances, Ma'am, It May Well Mean Just That |
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Leopolds Ghost
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Wed Jan-31-07 03:34 AM Response to Reply #55 |
83. Sorry, this definition of ethics as "imaginary" is unpalatable to anyone who has ethics. |
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The Magistrate
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:27 AM Response to Reply #83 |
91. Anything Claiming A Religious Justification Is Imaginary, Sir |
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uppityperson
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. It depends on the amount of imposition on others. |
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The Magistrate
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Not In The Least, Ma'am |
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liberalhistorian
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
37. "People do not have a right to impose their religious scruples |
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DemBones DemBones
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. What's your stand about Muslim cabbies refusing |
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Crunchy Frog
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:54 PM Response to Reply #46 |
56. What's your stand on Muslim bartenders refusing to serve drinks? |
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liberalhistorian
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Tue Jan-30-07 11:41 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Reminds me of the Onion article entitled "Christian Science |
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Leopolds Ghost
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Wed Jan-31-07 03:53 AM Response to Reply #64 |
86. LOL! Of course, some DUers think that a woman in a burqa should not teach |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #86 |
102. I do not count among those you mention. My standard there and for |
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LeftishBrit
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:09 AM Response to Reply #56 |
68. No; but I doubt that a strict Moslem would seek a job as a bartender in the first place |
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Pithlet
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #68 |
104. Can you imagine? |
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Leopolds Ghost
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Wed Jan-31-07 03:45 AM Response to Reply #19 |
85. Now, this is a more reasonable argument than the one you made above. |
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Crunchy Frog
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:37 AM Response to Reply #85 |
94. Just so you know, we are not talking about RU-486 here. |
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Crandor
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Disallowing alcohol in a taxi = forcing a woman to incubate rape babies? |
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DemBones DemBones
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. What is equivalent is that in each instance someone |
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mondo joe
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. The damages resulting from both are dissimilar. Your need to fabricate |
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Lars39
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:50 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. No, it means she might be forced to undergo a medical procedure |
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DemBones DemBones
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. That is a possibility. It is also quite possible that |
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Lars39
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. How magnanimous of you. |
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DemBones DemBones
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:26 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. DId you know that EC increases the risk of |
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Pithlet
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:53 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. IMany medications cary some risk. f the doctor prescribed it |
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mondo joe
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #47 |
61. That's part of informed decision making between the pt and the physician - |
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REP
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:58 AM Response to Reply #61 |
79. Pssst. That Claim is Made Up. |
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REP
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:56 AM Response to Reply #47 |
78. Document or Retract |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:05 AM Response to Reply #78 |
98. You'll never get a response from such a notorious hit-and-run fundy |
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REP
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:28 PM Response to Reply #98 |
107. Don't You Mean "Pro-Lie"? |
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Richard Steele
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #47 |
105. You do know "Dr. Falwell" isn't a MEDICAL doctor, right? |
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tyedyeto
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #42 |
60. If the fundies of America have their say..... |
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LeftishBrit
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:17 AM Response to Reply #42 |
70. And supposing that she is also denied an abortion because of medical providers' religious beliefs? |
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uppityperson
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:37 AM Response to Reply #42 |
76. If she can find or afford to get one, being in prison and all. |
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Leopolds Ghost
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Wed Jan-31-07 03:59 AM Response to Reply #34 |
87. She is not "forced" to do anything. EC is a voluntary procedure |
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uppityperson
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:40 AM Response to Reply #32 |
77. It could very well be. |
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mondo joe
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
28. Thus proving the absolute lack of logic or integrity to the absurd arguments in support of |
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fishwax
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:58 PM Response to Reply #11 |
58. That doesn't even remotely follow from what The Magistrate said. |
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The Magistrate
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:30 AM Response to Reply #58 |
75. Indeed, Sir |
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LeftishBrit
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:05 AM Response to Reply #11 |
67. No, I don't think that's the point |
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frogcycle
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:52 AM Response to Reply #11 |
96. you have your head up your a$$ |
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Warren DeMontague
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Tue Jan-30-07 07:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Yes. nt |
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liberalhistorian
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Tue Jan-30-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Oh, God, here we go again. Why is it so hard to understand |
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Leopolds Ghost
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:14 AM Response to Reply #12 |
89. Let's stop mixing private pharmacies with jail pharmacies, OK? |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #89 |
101. First of all, most pharmacies carry the products. The pharmacists and others |
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liberalhistorian
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Frankly, yes, they should, indeed, be fired. |
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Madspirit
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
59. Right On... |
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we can do it
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
23. Yes If You Don't Want To Do Your Job Correctly - Then Find One That Isn't Offensive |
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Irreverend IX
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
25. Of course they should be fired. |
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mondo joe
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
26. Disproportionate response to the damage. |
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Leopolds Ghost
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:19 AM Response to Reply #26 |
90. Interesting. So now we're into licensing cabs |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:41 AM Response to Reply #90 |
95. Cabs are licensed. |
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mitchum
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
27. Yes! A fanatic is a fanatic is a fanatic. |
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JerseygirlCT
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
40. Yes! They're not being required to drink |
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Crunchy Frog
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
49. Yes. n/t |
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philosophie_en_rose
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
52. The cabbies aren't interfering with medical treatment. |
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liberalnurse
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:19 AM Response to Reply #5 |
72. I think I |
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indepat
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
16. Why not give the choice of being fired or castrated? |
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JerseygirlCT
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
39. Yup. Forget the complicated solutions |
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MrSlayer
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Tue Jan-30-07 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
2. I personally think they have no place in the medical field at all. |
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Warren DeMontague
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Tue Jan-30-07 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
3. No, they should find a profession where their "religious objections" don't interfere with |
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Pithlet
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Tue Jan-30-07 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
4. No, because they shouldn't be allowed to do it in the first place. |
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Warren DeMontague
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Tue Jan-30-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. It sure would be nice if we could live in a world where people didn't foist their morals |
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Pithlet
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Well, of course. |
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Warren DeMontague
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
35. I agree. I just think there's no excuse for a lot of the rampant busybodiness |
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rubberducky
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Tue Jan-30-07 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
6. Fire them. |
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BlackVelvet04
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Tue Jan-30-07 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
10. Should this woman become pregnant |
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liberalhistorian
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Works for me! |
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More Than A Feeling
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. We're on the same page! n/t |
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kestrel91316
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
41. Yeah. What BlackVelvet said. |
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Megahurtz
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
21. They Should be Fired! |
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More Than A Feeling
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
22. They should have to pay for any abortions that result. |
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BlooInBloo
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Wed Jan-31-07 03:20 AM Response to Reply #22 |
82. Nah. They should have to pay for 18yrs worth of children that result. |
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Ian David
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
29. They should have to pay child support. n/t |
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Crunchy Frog
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
48. They shouldn't hold jobs where their religion might interfere |
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tyedyeto
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
50. They should be fired on the spot |
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NoSheep
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
51. No. They should be fired. |
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and-justice-for-all
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Tue Jan-30-07 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
65. I think it should be illegal to deny birth control... |
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Crunchy Frog
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #65 |
108. I'd give him an impromptu vasectomy. |
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Dastard Stepchild
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
66. Actually I think they shouldn't be pharmacists/med providers to begin with... |
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Starbucks Anarchist
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
69. They should be fired immediately. |
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liberalnurse
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
71. No, just reported to their licensing board |
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Triana
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
73. No... |
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RegimeChange2008
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:27 AM Response to Original message |
74. If you are a doctor, nurse, or pharmacist denying medicine on religious grounds.... |
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Withywindle
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Wed Jan-31-07 03:16 AM Response to Original message |
80. They should be fired, lose their license, and be open to lawsuits. |
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BlooInBloo
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Wed Jan-31-07 03:17 AM Response to Original message |
81. .... be raped themselves and denied birth control? |
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spoony
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:00 AM Response to Reply #81 |
88. You say something like that |
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Hekate
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Wed Jan-31-07 03:38 AM Response to Original message |
84. Fired for failure to perform the required duties of their job |
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Leopolds Ghost
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Wed Jan-31-07 04:40 AM Response to Original message |
92. There Are Three Separate Issues Here. |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:03 AM Response to Reply #92 |
97. Here's a nice example of your 3rd point. |
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Pithlet
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Wed Jan-31-07 10:24 AM Response to Reply #97 |
100. Yep. Exactly. n/t |
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Pithlet
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Wed Jan-31-07 10:23 AM Response to Reply #92 |
99. Point by point |
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JNelson6563
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:04 AM Response to Original message |
93. They should have to adopt the babies |
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SaveElmer
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
103. I am really a hard ass on this one...felony to refuse to fill a legal prescription... |
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mondo joe
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. I agree. Obstruction of medical care should be a fucking serious offense. NT |
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