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ourbluenation
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:32 PM Original message |
I'm so upset...tears are welling up in my eyes re: alchohol testing in high school |
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Little Wing
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. Nobody's ever overdosed on marijuana |
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ourbluenation
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. well maybe the problem is not just about trying to avoid overdoses. |
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Little Wing
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. If MJ was legalized, and even taxed to hell, the liquour/cheap beer companies would be out of |
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ourbluenation
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I don't know about that. You can get it for free where we live it's so |
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Little Wing
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Where do you live? |
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NoSheep
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. No Shit! |
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JVS
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Wed Jan-31-07 03:25 AM Response to Reply #21 |
120. ROAD TRIP! |
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Megahurtz
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
87. Must be Semi-Near Humbolt. |
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ourbluenation
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:51 PM Response to Reply #87 |
108. close - |
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Megahurtz
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:41 PM Response to Reply #108 |
149. Really Nice Up There. |
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Rex
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. It is bad, all of it for still developing brains and bodies. |
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SammyWinstonJack
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
30. Free? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
49. You're just making stuff up. |
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ourbluenation
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:23 PM Response to Reply #49 |
75. No I'm not... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:32 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. Baloney. |
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ourbluenation
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:40 PM Response to Reply #81 |
92. why would I lie? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:43 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. Why? To support your ridiculous ideas. |
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ourbluenation
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:50 PM Response to Reply #98 |
106. okey dokey |
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Clark2008
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
95. That's ridiculous. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:45 PM Response to Reply #95 |
103. I don't think that's true. |
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SharonAnn
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. But they died driving a vehicle. |
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JerseygirlCT
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. And that's another of my pet peeves |
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Seeking Serenity
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #19 |
43. Pot can be addictive, though |
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JerseygirlCT
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #43 |
62. Oh I agree |
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Seeking Serenity
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:12 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. There are two extremes at play with pot |
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JerseygirlCT
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Wed Jan-31-07 07:41 AM Response to Reply #66 |
124. Exactly. |
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walldude
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:15 PM Response to Reply #43 |
68. Proving the point that it's not the drug it's the person doing it. |
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adigal
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Wed Jan-31-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #43 |
140. I have never heard of pot addiction! |
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ourbluenation
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #19 |
76. We said all those things too...but for some it wasn't enough - that's the point |
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JerseygirlCT
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Wed Jan-31-07 07:43 AM Response to Reply #76 |
125. Absolutely - |
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adigal
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Wed Jan-31-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
139. I am looking at colleges for my son |
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Swagman
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
3. there should be alcohol testing in the Oval Office.... |
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Rex
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
4. You're fighting the wrong people, the schools can rollover bacwards |
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ourbluenation
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
79. tru that - but in the near term, for some kids the threat of not being able to |
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Hippo_Tron
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:39 PM Response to Reply #79 |
89. For some kids it may discourge them from participating in school activities |
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ourbluenation
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:43 PM Response to Reply #89 |
97. the school I visited had a warning and counceling componant to it...it wasn't zero tolerance |
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Hippo_Tron
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
84. We tried prohibition, peole wanted to drink |
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shance
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
5. This is an intentional conditioning of young persons to relinquish their power to authority |
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ourbluenation
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:56 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Whatever...right now me and many other parents are just trying to get our kids thru school alive |
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JerseygirlCT
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. Amen. nt |
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Katherine Brengle
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
28. Amen. |
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shance
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
104. I worry about overzealous policing of authority more than I do a few Budweisers. |
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OmmmSweetOmmm
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. And that was my first thought when reading about this. eom |
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Katherine Brengle
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
27. Sorry, but that's bullshit. |
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tnlefty
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
64. Correct, and that is why I've made it very clear to my kids |
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ourbluenation
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:11 PM Response to Reply #27 |
65. thank you - that seems to be lost on some people here. n/t |
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shance
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:41 PM Response to Reply #27 |
94. With that said it has nothing to do with "privileges" Katherine, it has to do with training |
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spoony
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Wed Jan-31-07 03:57 AM Response to Reply #5 |
122. Yeah man! Like homework! |
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DerBeppo
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:28 AM Response to Reply #5 |
133. If that authority is a loving parent, they should relinquish. |
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Arugula Latte
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
7. Thanks for your post. Sorry for all those losses. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME
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Tue Jan-30-07 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
8. Didn't See The Thread You Were Referring To, But I Agree With Ya. |
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Megahurtz
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
10. May I give a Different Perspective? |
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NoSheep
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
22. I have to agree. I have a nephew who didn't have a drinking problem at all until his prudish |
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Megahurtz
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. Yes, I've seen this happen with a couple of my daughter's friends. |
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NoSheep
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Agreed. I feel for those who have lost kids to substance abuse. But the problem will be aggravated |
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ourbluenation
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
80. Hahahahaaa! No offense, but we are not prudish I can assure you. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:36 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. People say that a lot. |
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ourbluenation
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:45 PM Response to Reply #85 |
102. thank you for making me smile - if you knew me you'd smile too. |
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Megahurtz
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #85 |
152. Lol! |
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NoSheep
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Wed Jan-31-07 07:13 PM Response to Reply #80 |
146. I'm not implying you are at all. But my sister in-law and niece in law are. |
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ourbluenation
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. Ha! Thanks but that was not a problem and if it came across that way |
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Megahurtz
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Well then hopefully you have nothing to worry about. |
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SharonAnn
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
13. Thank you. Having lost two nephews to drugs and alcohol, and recovering myself, |
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JerseygirlCT
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:05 PM Response to Original message |
16. Thank you for that |
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sandnsea
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
18. I'm sorry, but sometimes kids die |
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ourbluenation
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. I know they die, but it seems like some of it could be avoided. |
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sandnsea
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. I'm sorry for yours too |
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sandnsea
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
36. How about random sperm swabs? |
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Katherine Brengle
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:50 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Maybe people should stop fucking doing drugs. |
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PassingFair
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:55 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Here's your ceremonial hatchet! |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:59 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. Maybe people should mind their own business. |
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sandnsea
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:06 PM Response to Reply #40 |
61. They certainly should |
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High Plains
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #40 |
101. Good luck with that. You're up against human history here. |
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Djinn
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Wed Jan-31-07 07:51 AM Response to Reply #40 |
127. what? |
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phusion
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #18 |
136. Best response in this thread... |
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Katherine Brengle
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
25. I am 100% in agreement with you -- |
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PassingFair
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Keep them in a padded closet until they are 21. |
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Katherine Brengle
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Are you a parent? |
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PassingFair
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Freedom from their SCHOOL BLOOD TESTING THEM, yes! |
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Katherine Brengle
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:53 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. You're entitled to your opinion, and I am entitled to think you are dead wrong. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:55 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. How about we tap their cell phones too. |
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PassingFair
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:57 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. I'm pretty sure she's already doing it to her kids.... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. No, no. We should do it to everybody. |
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PassingFair
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Implant CHIPS! Yeah....that's the ticket! |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Install videocameras in their lockerrooms. |
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PassingFair
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:06 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. 24-hour surveillance. You CANNOT be too careful. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:08 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. I say we inject them with tranquilizers. |
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PassingFair
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:13 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. And tazer them in advance, JUST IN CASE! |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:20 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. I'm in tears here. |
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PassingFair
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. They hate us for our.... wait for it..... |
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Megahurtz
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #67 |
153. Rofl! |
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ourbluenation
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:37 PM Response to Reply #50 |
86. that is a cheap shot and kinda cruel that you find it so fucking funny... |
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PassingFair
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:43 PM Response to Reply #86 |
96. I find it "pretty cruel" that a democrat |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. I find it downright perverted. |
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ourbluenation
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #47 |
88. do either one of you two smart asses even have teenagers? |
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PassingFair
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:39 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. I have 2 |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:41 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. No. |
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PassingFair
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #93 |
100. Regression Therapy may be needed. |
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ourbluenation
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Tue Jan-30-07 11:05 PM Response to Reply #100 |
111. what do you have to gain by all this meaness? Our community just buried a kid |
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adigal
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Wed Jan-31-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #111 |
141. Just ignore them - tragedy has not knocked at their door |
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PassingFair
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #141 |
148. No. Better advise. Lash out at EVERYONE. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #111 |
151. Meanness? |
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IdaBriggs
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Thu Feb-01-07 04:29 AM Response to Reply #111 |
159. One of the "problems" with an open forum is that we have our |
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GirlinContempt
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Thu Feb-01-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #159 |
161. Disagreeing with someone |
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IdaBriggs
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Thu Feb-01-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #161 |
162. I agree with you -- disagreeing with someone doesn't make you "trashy." |
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ScreamingMeemie
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Mon Feb-05-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #159 |
170. One, my daughter would laugh in your face given the fact that she does |
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ourbluenation
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:53 PM Response to Reply #93 |
110. I'm in my forties...it's worse now than it used to be. You can choose to believe |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #110 |
134. ROFL. |
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ourbluenation
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Wed Jan-31-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #134 |
143. oh pick your ass up off the floor you old fart - you're not that funny. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #143 |
150. LOL. |
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Megahurtz
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:07 PM Response to Reply #110 |
154. And This is The Problem that I See. |
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #88 |
131. You seem to think that only people who have kids, |
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ourbluenation
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Wed Jan-31-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #131 |
144. we have a saying in the sexual assault victim advocacy world I live in.... |
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ScreamingMeemie
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Mon Feb-05-07 01:04 PM Response to Reply #88 |
169. She has the only two teenagers that I know of (besides my own) that |
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PassingFair
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:56 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Then arrange for testing for your kid. |
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JohnLocke
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:04 PM Response to Reply #25 |
58. "Citizens don't have the right to financially support terrorism..." |
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billyoc
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
32. I'm all for drug and alcohol testing for students. |
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MadHound
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
33. Let's look at this another way |
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PassingFair
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:04 PM Response to Reply #33 |
57. You talk SO much more nicer than me do! |
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MadHound
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:51 PM Response to Reply #57 |
109. Thanks for the compliment, but sometimes I'm just rambling |
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ourbluenation
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #33 |
73. Sorry MadHound but the scenario you paint in your last two paragraphs |
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MadHound
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:50 PM Response to Reply #73 |
107. Monitoring them like you did, determining who they could hang out with, |
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ourbluenation
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Tue Jan-30-07 11:17 PM Response to Reply #107 |
113. oh for crying out loud....sign a waiver and there is no problem, no infringments |
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MadHound
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Wed Jan-31-07 06:46 AM Response to Reply #113 |
123. Way to not address any of the points I brought up |
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HiFructosePronSyrup
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
35. Oh, Lord. |
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Nevernose
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
38. I had 6 -- that's SIX -- students arrive drunk today. |
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sandnsea
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:33 PM Response to Reply #38 |
82. Don't punish the 31 |
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Hippo_Tron
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Tue Jan-30-07 11:07 PM Response to Reply #38 |
112. Would the 6 actually be learning anything even if they weren't drinking |
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MadMaddie
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
42. Your experiences are tragic and they are happening all over the |
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Seeking Serenity
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:54 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. "When will America stand up to the Alcohol Industry?" |
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MadMaddie
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Tue Jan-30-07 09:59 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. You are right...I am not talking about prohibition but more along the |
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MadHound
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:01 PM Response to Reply #42 |
54. When will America stand up to the Fast Food Industry? |
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sandnsea
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:17 PM Response to Reply #42 |
69. What's that got to do with privacy rights? |
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MadMaddie
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:28 PM Response to Reply #69 |
78. So where are the underage teens getting the alcohol? If they |
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sandnsea
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:40 PM Response to Reply #78 |
91. Agree with that too |
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tyedyeto
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
59. Ok..... |
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liberalhistorian
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
70. I'm sorry, but it really isn't any of the |
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sweetheart
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
71. i feel exactly like you say about the 9/11 inside job nt |
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
77. I'm not sure if I agree with you 100%, but |
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Tue Jan-30-07 11:20 PM Response to Reply #77 |
114. thank you. I'm not sure I even agree with myself on this but it could be a solution if done right |
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
83. If a parent is so worried |
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Wed Jan-31-07 03:14 AM Response to Reply #83 |
119. Because the need to impart the sense of dread that only an impersonal and heavy-handed bureaucratic |
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GirlinContempt
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Wed Jan-31-07 08:54 AM Response to Reply #119 |
128. Well uh |
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Wed Jan-31-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #128 |
130. Parent's don't have the stugats for that |
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Tue Jan-30-07 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
105. Maybe we should try teaching kids to drink responsibly. |
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Tue Jan-30-07 11:21 PM Response to Reply #105 |
115. I think you have to ease into that. Dealing with someone 13 quite different than dealing |
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Tue Jan-30-07 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
116. Sorry, not buying in. Random drug testing is a huge invasion of privacy. |
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
117. Having some anecdotal experience of adolescent drinkers... |
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Wed Jan-31-07 02:39 AM Response to Original message |
118. kids simply cannot anticipate the future like adults do |
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Wed Jan-31-07 03:49 AM Response to Original message |
121. How about parents who want to others to monitor their children sign a contract to test them? |
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #121 |
135. It should go both ways. Children should be able to have their parents |
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Wed Jan-31-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #135 |
157. Damn straight! |
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Wed Jan-31-07 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
126. what would testing have done |
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
129. Maybe we should just put the constitution on hold for people that have sad stories. |
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Thu Feb-01-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #129 |
164. How can you BE so CRUEL and TRASHY? |
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Wed Jan-31-07 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
132. Random drug testing protects teens from peer pressure |
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Wed Jan-31-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #132 |
138. excellent point |
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Wed Jan-31-07 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
137. Why do our children drink, smoke and/or do drugs? |
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Thu Feb-01-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #137 |
165. Because drinking, smoking, and doing drugs are superfun and cool! |
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Thu Feb-01-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #137 |
167. Excellent question! |
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Thu Feb-01-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #137 |
168. Maybe because we abandoned them. |
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Wed Jan-31-07 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
142. You will never be able to stop college kids from drinking, unless they want to stop |
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Wed Jan-31-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #142 |
145. absolutley - you give them the tools and send them on their way. |
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Wed Jan-31-07 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
147. oh please |
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
155. every incident you mention is the result of alchohol, but you imply |
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Thu Feb-01-07 03:56 AM Response to Reply #155 |
158. Driving while "high" is very dangerous |
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Wed Jan-31-07 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
156. Addiction is hell. |
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Thu Feb-01-07 07:53 AM Response to Original message |
160. As long as parents have the right to opt their children out w/o consequences... |
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Thu Feb-01-07 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
163. There were exactly the same problems back in the '60s and even earlier |
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Thu Feb-01-07 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
166. FREEDOM! |
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