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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:27 PM
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Woman's nude pics end up on Web after call to Dell tech rep
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 06:31 PM by Liberal_in_LA
Woman's nude pics end up on Web after call to Dell tech rep

Tara Fitzgerald of Sacramento needed help. The nude photos she had taken for her boyfriend were nowhere to be found on her computer, so she called Dell in December 2008. She was patched through to support tech Riyaz Shaikh, an employee of call service center in India, and gave him permission to search her PC remotely. What happened next was horrifying, said Fitzgerald:

"I watched him take the pictures out of my e-mail. I watched him."

More than a dozen of those pictures ended up on a site called "bitchtara." Shaikh offered his "help" again, allegedly telling Fitzgerald he could work on taking down the site if she sent him a brand new Dell laptop. Fitzgerald agreed:

"And I'm telling myself, my conscience is talking to me saying, 'Tara, don't send this. What are you doing? Are you crazy?' I sent it anyways because I really believed in this guy. I really had faith that he was protecting my dignity."

Both Fitzgerald and reporter George Warren of News10 have contacted Dell about the situation, but the company has yet to respond. To read more about Fitzgerald's story, go to News10 and KGO-TV.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/scavenger/detail?entry_id=68992#ixzz0v7IwMP3T

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Tech support rep offers to "work from home"

Fitzgerald admitted that what she did next was remarkably naive.

She said Shaikh convinced her to buy him a new Dell laptop in Sacramento and ship it to his home in Mumbai so that he could work on her case from home. A parcel shipping order from UPS shows Fitzgerald spent $195 to ship the laptop by next-day air on Jan. 20, 2009.

"My conscience is talking to me, saying 'Tara, don't send this. Are you crazy?' I sent it anyway," she said.

Fitzgerald said she maintained contact with Shaikh, both through official Dell channels and through his personal e-mail and cell phone. Message logs obtained by News10 show Shaikh switching seamlessly between his official Dell
technical support account and a personal messaging account

http://www.news10.net/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=88171&provider=top
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:31 PM
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1. Fuck Dell.
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:12 AM
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40. Dell tech support has always sucked.
The machines aren't bad (not best of show either), but don't expect to get any useful help.

In this case, it seems like it was far worse than useless.

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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 10:15 AM
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68. Michael Dell is corrupt. He bought off Rick Perry.
Check out how Dell gave Perry a huge amount of money for a small Poe e of land near Round Rock, Texas. It was a bribe and since then Dell and Perry have been almost joined at the hip during Perry's entire governorship.

I would NEVER buy a Dell computer.
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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 10:51 AM
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75. This is what happens when you buy a republican product from
a republican company.

Of course this happens. I would NEVER buy a dell for that very reason. I'm not a fanboi but I like the fact that when I call Apple I'm talking to an American located in California (and yes, I ask).
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 11:31 AM
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81. Same with Toshiba - call center and American HQ are located in Irvine, CA.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:31 PM
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2. "this thread is useless without..."
Hanging curve over the plate...sorry.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 08:21 PM
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19. ya. the woman was violated and you feel the need for a bet more.
i dont get why you men think this is funny.
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RadicalTexan Donating Member (607 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 09:49 PM
Response to Reply #19
37. Because of unexamined privilege and being raised in a rape culture
$0.02
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:44 AM
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44. Yes, of course...
I didn't say it was funny...it's a standard DU 'joke'...but then again, everyone's a rapist, right?

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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:51 AM
Response to Reply #44
48. well, apparently about 49.4% of the earth's population... n/t
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:36 AM
Response to Reply #44
56. Yep, we're all racists because we were raised in a racist culture.
Makes it easier for people not to think.
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uncommon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:57 AM
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59. Not everyone, just people who commit rape.
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uncommon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:56 AM
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58. I'll see your $0.02 and raise you my $0.02 in agreement.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 01:41 AM
Response to Reply #37
112. ... a "rape culture"?
Oookay.
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rbixby Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #19
85. Her stupidity led to it happening
it doesn't make it right, but if you let someone remotely log into your computer to find your 'personal' pictures for you, you have to remember that they can easily be saving those off somewhere for later.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #85
92. that stupid girl got drunk and allowed herself to be raped
now, not that i am blaming her or anything
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rbixby Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 01:11 PM
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97. That's apples and oranges
You have to give explicit permission to allow someone onto your computer, and then at that point you need to trust them not to be stealing your naked pictures and posting them online. That's a lot different than a guy taking advantage of someone who's drunk and raping her. In this situation, she not only gave him permission to remotely connect to and control her computer, but also to seek out and find said naked pictures. Granted, if this is the case, he should have either a. politely refused to do it, as it would definitely be some kind of violation of the tech support policies, or b. done it without copying the pictures.
By your previous posts here, I can tell that you understand that there are lots and lots of creepy guys out there, and a temptation like this would be irresistible to someone like that. Its not a justification for what happened, and yes, I believe she was victimized, but at the same time, she did do just about everything wrong that she could have in this situation.

It definitely seems to me that there's more to this story than what's being told though, so much of it doesn't ring true at all.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 01:13 PM
Response to Reply #97
98. if a female makes herself vulnerable by getting in a car with male, going into his apartment
she did not give consent to be raped

if this woman ask him to go into her computer, she did not give permission for him to steal pictures and put them on the net.
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rbixby Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 01:23 PM
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99. I totally agree
And I'm not defending the actions of the tech in any way (there's just too much strange stuff in this story for me to really believe any of it), but when you start showing someone your private information, be it pictures, credit card numbers, social security number, whatever, you're setting yourself up to have those things stolen. The especially strange this is that she waited a very long time to report all of this happening, after building up a rapport with him, communicating both through official dell channels and private emails, sending him a laptop, and giving him her card number, which he then allegedly used to buy a laptop and a router for a third party.
Just so much is wrong with this story that it raises all kinds of red flags. Since the only details given in it were so sketchy, its hard to tell what exactly happened, but there is definitely something else going on here. So did this woman fall victim to some kind of scam out of her own stupidity, or was she in on some kind of weird conspiracy to scam money out of Dell? Its tough to speculate, and I guess everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Hopefully some more information about this story will come out, because what has so far just seems so bizarre that I have a hard time believing someone would actually be that stupid.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 01:27 PM
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100. i dont know shit about computers. i was talking to husband, about a woman being violated, exploited
in this manner and what he thought about guys saying, ..... useless without a picture. now, the poster that said it is a good guy. but still. trying to figure out why that is cute.

hubby said, ... dont believe it happened. thinks it is wrong if it did. wouldnt exploit further by wanting the picture. he can understand that line

but he being in puter business said no tech would even help with what she was asking. he isnt buying it.

i dont know.

computer illiterate.

that is only where i stand.
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rbixby Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 01:32 PM
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102. I don't buy it either
such a strange story though, I'm definitely interested in seeing what the reality of it is, because I'm sure its just as interesting as the cover up.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 05:49 PM
Response to Reply #85
104. Of course. She should never have
expected him to act professionally...How "stupid":eyes:




Ten bucks says you could expect a FEMALE to act professionally with a man's "personal" pictures.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 11:54 AM
Response to Reply #104
113. I don't know what Ignored said...
but I guess you could say I "planned" it that way.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 01:31 AM
Response to Reply #85
111. Blame-the-victim FAIL!
Being "stupid" or "naive" does not mean she deserved it. Fuck that BS!
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #19
95. Not all of us think this is funny.
OTOH, she was as stupid as if she decided to take a walk through Central Park alone, in an evening gown, dripping jewelry, at night. The ensuing mugging is to be expected.

Giving a complete stranger, outside any U.S. law, unrestricted access to your system is just freaking dumb.


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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 01:02 PM
Response to Reply #95
96. +1. and thank you. i agree. nt
Edited on Fri Jul-30-10 01:02 PM by seabeyond
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #95
117. Yeah....Females who don't realize they just don't have the freedoms
men take for granted are really "stupid".:eyes:



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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 01:09 PM
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127. A man who did the same thing would be just as stupid
Or, for that matter, a man (or woman) who couldn't find his financial statements and passwords on his computer and invited an anonymous stranger from tech support to access his computer and find the info for him would be just as stupid.

That does not mean that it's OK for the tech support person to then steal all the info and clean out the bank accounts. It just means that it is really stupid to give all that info out.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 01:29 AM
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110. Not fucking funny!
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:32 PM
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3. Shaikh must be a member of DU
I rec'd this story and it still sits at 0
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:35 PM
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4. Weird.
It said I voted minus 1 when I didn't. Is Dell tech support secretly monitoring this thread? :shrug:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:35 PM
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5. Deleted message
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:39 PM
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6. She actually sent that fuck the laptop? I would have sent interpol.
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Vehl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 11:58 AM
Response to Reply #6
120. yes she did send him a laptop
and this is what really bugs me about this whole thing!

its almost beyond belief!!!
such a request from him should have immediately made her realize that she is dealing with a con artist.


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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:49 PM
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7. I bet this happens much more often than any of us think
Never, ever let anyone have remote access to your computer.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:56 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. that's impractical advice
whenever you get service over the phone the tech has remote access to yr computer, you may not realize it, but he does
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 07:09 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. My advice is to not get service over the phone..
Because they can steal your data without your knowledge. What did people do before remote access was an option?

I've never owned anything other than home-brew systems, so it's not a problem here.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 07:24 PM
Response to Reply #12
14. Then 95% of people couldn't own computers. The home-brew system doesn't
work for most.
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Caliman73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 07:25 PM
Response to Reply #12
15. My advice: Don't put nude pictures of yourself anywhere that anyone can get to them.
Better yet, don't take nude pictures of yourself if you aren't okay with them ending up in public at some time in your life. :dunce:
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 10:23 PM
Response to Reply #15
39. There are websites where men post graphic pics of their ex-wives & GFs
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:45 AM
Response to Reply #39
46. There's a growing sub-industry
Edited on Fri Jul-30-10 06:46 AM by Dogtown
of scripted "revenge" photos and vids.

Apparently the humiliation factor cranks up the kink-response in some of us, even when it's pretty clear it's artificial.


Sad little monkeys are we...
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 10:44 AM
Response to Reply #39
73. 4chan would half of their bandwidth if they did not do this
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 11:55 AM
Response to Reply #39
114. Oh, that's nice...
I wonder if the ex-wives and girlfriends know it.:eyes:
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:47 AM
Response to Reply #10
47. no...the tech does not...
why would you say something so patently false? how, pray tell, would a tech who knows NOTHING about me, where I am, the address of my computer or even the service provider I am using have ANY way to 'have access to' my computer?

maybe i am misunderstanding your definition of 'over the phone.'

sP
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #10
67. that's not true.
That statement is incorrect in many ways.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #10
115. ROFL
:tinfoil:
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ORDagnabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:55 PM
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8. stupid is as stupid does. n/t
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:56 PM
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9. New series, brought to you by Dell - "Tales from the Terminally Stupid"
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 06:56 PM by TheCowsCameHome
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 06:58 PM
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11. I had to let a Dell tech access to my computer one time.
As we were finishing up on the phone I glanced up and saw naked pictures of him.

I asked him why I was looking at his personal rentboy website.

He was mortified and knocked something over on his desk as he scrambled to close it. He apologized profusely.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 07:17 PM
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13. Coming up next: Tara gets an email from Nigeria!
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 08:00 PM
Response to Reply #13
18. LOL! n/t
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 07:48 PM
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16. The bogus is strong in this story.
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 08:45 PM
Response to Reply #16
28. Yeah, that was my first impression.
Something mighty fishy here.

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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 09:20 PM
Response to Reply #16
34. I'm glad you said it and not me.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 01:15 AM
Response to Reply #16
108. thats where I'm at. nt
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Vehl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 12:02 PM
Response to Reply #16
121. yes...something smells to high heaven
This is the first time ive heard of a rep asking a customer to buy him and entire laptop.....(the customer, when faced with such a request could have simply complained to the management and/or asked for another customer service rep) but also the customer agreeing to this outlandish request and sending him one!

this is really hard for me to get my heard around...its soo....soo fishy
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 07:50 PM
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17. Dude, I'm Gettin' a .......



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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 08:22 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. so, you think this is a thumbs up too. invading her privacy? nt
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #20
22. Good F**king Grief......
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 08:26 PM by marmar
I would respond, but what good would it do?


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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 08:28 PM
Response to Reply #22
23. thumbs up to some man stealing pictures in her computer and putting it on net.
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 08:30 PM by seabeyond
and YOU are offended?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 08:33 PM
Response to Reply #23
24. Yes, I'm offended by that......I was just playing on the Dell Dude thing.
But I didn't realize that would offend the tragically humorless.


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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #24
27. this woman was violated, put on internet and males posting thumbsup, useless without picture
pictures and boob symbols.

no, i dont find this funny.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 09:16 PM
Response to Reply #27
32. To be fair, marmar was posting a photo of the Dell Guy. Remember him?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 09:49 PM
Response to Reply #32
36. fine
dude i am getting a .... thumbsup. thumbsup up for what?

i dont know the commercial or the dude. sounds like thumbsup someone stold her naked pictures and put on net

maybe not.

maybe that ties in with commercial.

thumbsup for stealing nude pictures and putting on net? not so funny
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:03 AM
Response to Reply #36
50. Wow. Just wow.
Didn't mean to interrupt. Go back to being offended.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 11:55 AM
Response to Reply #50
83. It reminds me of the old joke:
Q: How many radical feminists does it take to change a light bulb?

A: THAT'S NOT FUNNY.


:hide:
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #83
86. I always thought the answer to that one was...
None! Screwing in a lightbulb is an oppressive symbol of patriarchy and male domination. The socket doesn't need a lightbulb to be complete, thankyouverymuch!
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SwampG8r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 10:40 AM
Response to Reply #36
72. the ads tag line was
dude youre getting a dell with this guy giving a thumbs up
it was an ad extolling the safety and quality of dell and its online and live support
the ads all pushed the idea that dell was your buddy
and thats who the dude in the pic is he is like a buddy saying dell has your back

the poster who you are offended by was making sarcastic use of dells advertising to skewer dell over the lack of oversight which led to this womans info and photos going viral

hope this helps
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 10:59 AM
Response to Reply #72
78. ty. nt
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 12:50 PM
Response to Reply #78
91. Delete
Edited on Fri Jul-30-10 12:52 PM by Commie Pinko Dirtbag
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 01:53 PM
Response to Reply #72
103. What boggles me is ... why didn't the other posters explain this?

This should have been a four post sub-thread.

"Dude, you're getting a...."

"So you give two thumbs up to this?"

"It's making fun of Dell using their own commercial where a guy gives two thumbs up and says, 'dude, you're getting a Dell!'".

"Oh, okay."


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rbixby Donating Member (716 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #23
87. The thing is
its not like he snuck into her computer when she wasn't looking or anything. She essentially opened the door and let him in and then told him about the naked pictures. Something just doesn't ring true here, but then again, maybe she's really that stupid and naive.

Is what happened wrong? Yes, but at the same time, you should have enough common sense not to open yourself up to this kind of thing.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 12:59 PM
Response to Reply #87
93. again, dont blame the victim. IF he stole the naked pictures and put on net without her consent
that is it. that simple. stupid, ya.

giving a thumbs up, or asking for the pictures of her says a lot about a guy.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 12:56 AM
Response to Reply #23
106. Not everyone is required to share your emotional response to oddball news items. nt
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #106
126. ? are you justifying stealing a womans naked picture and putting up on net for everyone against
her consent?

that is my only emotional response. is that what you are not "sharing" with me?
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #20
30. She is an idiot who asked a stranger
to search her computer for NUDE PICTURES of herself...THEN mailed said stranger A NEW COMPUTER to take the photos down....no, this is the story of where the complete imbecile meets the very first of many people in her life who takes advantage of her utter stupidity...keeerist...one of the oldest sports has to be cracking on the dumbest among us..
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 09:11 PM
Response to Reply #30
31. she asked him to find nude picture of BF, not her. yes she is stupid.
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 09:13 PM by seabeyond
and continued to be stupid.

regardless, her privacy was violated and she was put on the net. she didnt deserve that. it was wrong. even being stupid. and the men here on du want to continue to exploit her.
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 09:19 PM
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33. There is a difference between continuing
to exploit and no sympathy for people who do completely stupid shit. Would it be my own fault if I wanted to call someone up on the phone to take over my computer to help me access my bank account? Should that person steal from me? No. Would it be a shocker if that person did? Not to anyone who has ever read a newspaper.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #33
35. there is a difference between saying stupid, and where can i find the pictures to see this naked
woman who never wanted or consented for her pictures to be on the net.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:45 AM
Response to Reply #31
45. It was nude pics she had taken FOR her bf, not of the bf. n/t
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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 10:56 AM
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77. The article said she say them taken from her EMAIL program.
If she has ever EMAILED them, then they are basically public property for any system administrator, hacker, etc on the web. KEEErist, but that's a dumn thing to do. The web is many things, but secure is not one of them unless you are running 128K encription or higher.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:51 AM
Response to Reply #31
64. "nude photos she had taken *for* her boyfriend"
We probably won't hear the actual explanation, but my $1 bet is that the photos weren't posted by the support rep. He simply seized an opportunity for a really stupid person to buy him a laptop.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #20
90. Anyone with at least half of one percent of a brain cell sees marmar isn't celebrating the crime.
He's making a crude joke with the Dell advertising mascot.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 01:00 PM
Response to Reply #90
94. hm. doesnt have anything to do with not knowing the dell dude. must be cause i dont have one %
of a brain cell huh cpd?

lets talk stupid.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 08:24 PM
Response to Original message
21. Ð å M Ñ ...and IBTL
Edited on Thu Jul-29-10 08:27 PM by L0oniX
:popcorn:
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 08:39 PM
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25. Ever heard of reformatting the hard drive. Bye bye pix.
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 08:40 PM
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26. It there a link to the site with the pictures???? ;)))))
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dems_rightnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:34 AM
Response to Reply #26
41. Yes, and
If you'll send me a Dell laptop, I will send a link.
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Vehl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 12:06 PM
Response to Reply #41
123. lol!!!
good one
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 08:46 PM
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29. This was a service call to a Mumbai phone center?
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Kaleva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-29-10 10:09 PM
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38. I burned my computer and bought another.
Some years ago when I was single and sort of an internet wild child, I was corresponding (and sometimes later meeting) with women and couples via the internet. Graphic pics & e-mails were exchanged. After giving up that lifestyle for a variety of reasons, I then began to think what would happen if I were to die and someone decided to pay around with my computer and managed to find that stuff. So, I took the computer ought in the backyard yard one evening, piled some brush on it and lit the pile on fire. A few days later I purchased another computer.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:43 AM
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43. I guess you never heard of Format C:\
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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:07 AM
Response to Reply #43
51. Format C:\ doesn't get rid of picture data.
Depends on how you swipe your drive as to whether or not your data is still there, even then data can be retrieved.

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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:08 AM
Response to Reply #51
52. yeah...best to either go with a commercial
'wipe' program or physically destroy the drive...

sP
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:29 AM
Response to Reply #51
55. It's a lot cheaper than destroying a perfectly good computer.
If you format, then do an fdisk, then repartition and format again before reinstalling OS, chances are slim. Yes a forensics team could probably pull shit off it but not 99.99% of the people out there.
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Vehl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 12:10 PM
Response to Reply #51
124. There are many free 3rd party programs that help in this regard
a few of them do the "format /over-write /delete" cycle up to 32 times(you can specify the amount of repetitions in the software)

according to current info, the law enforcement agencies are able to retrieve data even from drives "formatted/over-written/deleted" over and over about 20 times ..so anything above 30 should be a good bet


but nothing beats a Neodymium magnet swipe...
best way to ensure total data erasure.
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Urban Prairie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:54 AM
Response to Reply #38
57. Wow, talk about overkill..heh!!
You could have just deleted the folders & files that contained them on your hard drive(s) partition, and used a software program to overwrite them. Unfortunately of course, most, if not all of those of whom you "corresponded" with still have those graphic pics and emails, as well as your and their IPs servers and/or the free online email accounts, such as Hotmail or Yahoo! email that were used to store, send, and receive them.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:39 AM
Response to Original message
42. "Remarkably naive"
Edited on Fri Jul-30-10 06:59 AM by hobbit709
How about Incredibly Stupid instead.
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:53 AM
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49. She is not the same "Tara Fitzgerald", the hot British actress of the '80s?
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Urban Prairie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:20 AM
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53. A fool and her dignity+money are soon parted
Maybe people ought to have to pass at least a basic computer knowledge test and get licensed before they can use broadband, just waay too many who just don't know enough about how to maintain their computer and protect their privacy. Wouldn't surprise me if it becomes necessary and mandatory someday. I can figure out pretty quickly how much one of my neighbors, co-workers, friends and family members know about computers when they have asked me to help them w/ a problem, and they give me remote access.

Many actually cause others to become targets of attacks, because someone has root access to their computer and can use it as a bot online. I am self-taught through reading books+online and have never needed to use tech support. Fortunately one of the first books that I read when I bought my first computer was all about email and online privacy and how easily it can be invaded. Now of course, the common cellphone w/camera is being used to transmit "sext" images. Stupid is as stupid does.

If it got online, it is always there somewhere forever, and no amount of erasing your tracks by destroying your hard drives or deleting accounts can really completely eliminate what has already happened. The internet is like one big camera taking billions of pictures of text and images being transmitted each second. Only https and VPN for example, offers some degree of encrypted protection, but obviously that info can be had if the server that it is sent to, gets cracked or is intercepted by hackers.
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chrisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:26 AM
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54. A scumbag perv steals pictures and creates an illegal porn site,
Edited on Fri Jul-30-10 07:28 AM by chrisa
Yes, what she did was dumb, but she didn't deserve what happened to her.

This Dell tech support guy is a con-artist that should be arrested, with the website being taken down. At the very least, he shouldn't be working for Dell.
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uncommon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:59 AM
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60. Regardless of this woman's stupidity, she was violated and abused by this man and
he should be held accountable for it.

She may have done a dumb thing, but the only person responsible for the abuse is the abuser.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:40 AM
Response to Reply #60
62. +1
A persons Naivety is not an excuse to abuse them. She should sue the crap out of the person and DELL
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uncommon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:57 AM
Response to Reply #62
66. Exactly.
By that logic, which is used a lot around here, we should have no sympathy when a mentally disabled person is abused since it's their own fault.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 10:19 AM
Response to Reply #62
69. I don't believe her story.
And I think she's chosen Dell as accused perpetrator for exactly the reason you allude to.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 10:23 AM
Response to Reply #69
70. huby didnt believe either. say would not happen. a dell rep would not go in for that reason
that she gives. but... he wouldnt be looking to further exploit women either. and clearly sees the wrong if there was one

being computer illiterate, i listen to him
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 10:30 AM
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71. +1
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #60
116. True, that....Some here prefer to talk about victim's "stupidity" rather
than focus on ugly male behavior...for obvious reasons.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #60
118. Assuming the story is true.
And that's a big assumption. This story is fishy.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:09 AM
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61. "Tara, don't send this. What are you doing? Are you crazy?"
perhaps next time she will listen her gut instinct.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:47 AM
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63. With a story this unbelievable, a smidgen of disbelief might be appropriate.
*ring*
"Hello, Dell support, this is Riaz"
"Hi, I have some nekkid pictures of me on my computer that I can't find"
"Okay, do you want me to look for them?"
"Yes, please".
*pause*
"Okay, I found them and put them on your desktop".
... two days later...
*ring"
"Hi, this is Riaz"
"I *just happened* to be surfing the web and found those pictures of me on a porn site. I'm real sure it couldn't have been my boyfriend to whom I sent them."
"It wasn't me, but if you spend $1000 to send me a new laptop here in Mumbai, I'll work from home to get them removed from the site."
"Yippee! That sounds like a swell idea Riaz!"

My guess... the boyfriend forwarded the photos she sent him to someone who then gave 'em to the porn site, and Riaz jumped at the opportunity to get a new laptop from a really, really stupid person.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:56 AM
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65. Is this the actress?
The English actress... wasn't she in Brassed Off or something?
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Ross K Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 10:48 AM
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74. Dell=Hell
Absolutely horrid!
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 10:53 AM
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76. Dell responds..
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 11:02 AM
Response to Reply #76
79. Interesting comments
"RalphKramden1 wrote:
According to what the folks at reddit.com found, she's not only familiar with posing nude online (she has her own live webcam channel), but also this particular service technician. I mean, I can't say I've ever befriended a customer service rep on Facebook.

Something tells me there's more to this story than she's admitting. One thing I'm sure of, though...she's not being very truthful."
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 12:49 AM
Response to Reply #79
105. There's a lot we're not hearing.
The OP didn't indicate that the CSR was the owner of the porn site, for instance.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 11:02 AM
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80. Sorry, I ain't buyin' it.
Sounds like bullshit to me.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 11:42 AM
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82. wow, wonder if she is one of those undecideds that you always
here about in the news.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 12:18 PM
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84. Another reason I'm glad my new laptop is a Sony
And I'm not letting anyone snoop around on my machine. In fact, this might be a good time to start discussing strategies to keep your hard drive's contents out of the hands of Dell, the NSA, or anyone else.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 12:48 PM
Response to Reply #84
89. M$ OS makes it difficult. They've built access for themselves into your OS that,
if disabled, cripples the functionality of the OS. Of course, we've been trying to inform the herd about this since Windoze 95, but you (the generic you, not you) just keep ignoring us (OG nerds).


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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 12:43 PM
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88. This has happened before and will continue to happen as long as people
continue to bow to the desires of big corporations. Opening up your system to remote access is not safe, period. When they install the software you acknowledge a blanket release for (Dell in this case) and the disposable serf in India (or China, Vietnam, Costa Rica, wherever, is beyond reach and supplements their meager wage (about $2K p/yr to the outsourcer less then half of which goes to the worker) by selling data to those that will put the data to work.

Remote access for techs is for their convenience, not yours.

We had a dozens cases like this @ HP every year. The corporate line? Not our problem, let em sue if they want.

You can't fix stupid, and this woman was stupid. Now she's infamous as well.


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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 01:30 PM
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101. He is a very bad man.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 01:13 AM
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107. Seems to me she walked right into this
I do not excuse the perv, but what was she thinking? I just don't think her story makes sense. Is there any chance she has an ulterior motive herself?
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 01:28 AM
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109. That's just EVIL!
:grr:
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Vehl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 11:55 AM
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119. what??? She bought him a computer??


She said Shaikh convinced her to buy him a new Dell laptop in Sacramento and ship it to his home in Mumbai so that he could work on her case from home. A parcel shipping order from UPS shows Fitzgerald spent $195 to ship the laptop by next-day air on Jan. 20, 2009.


How could she do this?
She should have complained to management the moment she even heard such a suggestion!

this story sounds just too wired! (im not saying what she saying is not true..i'm pretty certain that guy did steal the pics, cos judging from his actions..and how he manipulated her)

What was she thinking?

shouldn't such a request raise red flags in her mind?

This sounds worse than a Nigerian scam...and yet this woman fell for it :(


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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 12:02 PM
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122. iT AMAZES ME HOW SOME OF YOU ARE REACTING TO THIS WOMAN'S PLIGHT
shame on you all. Naievity is not worth your poutrage. You are ignorant.
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unapatriciated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 12:46 PM
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125. yes so many don't get it.
This month we changed tv servers. Canceled our cable and went with direct. In setting it up they also set up a direct pay. Two days after we set it up on a card we hadn't used for anything else, charges in another state started showing up on our card. Direct TV "partners" with various other companies and most of their billing department is located in the Philippines. To our amazement, our own fraud department call center is located in India. I asked for someone stateside and was told all they could do was put me back in line and could not guarantee the next cs rep to answer my call would be in the states. I asked for a supervisor many times during this all day event. The irony here (which I pointed out to our fraud department when I finally was connected with someone stateside) is this is a UFCW credit card. Until we put regulations in place regarding using call centers outside of the states(that have access to our private info) to protect us against fraud, we will continue with this problem.
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