Why is M$Greedia saying that Obama said that Rangel should go.

[malaise]

Why do they believe they can interpret what Obama said.
Why do Dems lie down and take this crap.

[BrklynLiberal]

1. Because they can get away with it. Because they can get away with it. That one I cannot answer...

[Bluzmann57]

2. Well, what did Obama say?

I believe he said that Rangel should go. Or maybe I misinterpreted his statement. If you believe I did, then please explain to me what Obama did mean.

[DJ13]

5. It was something like "he should quit at the top"

Which I certainly took as he should quit.

[saracat]

6. I posted an OP with links about this. Obama did imply Rangel should go and there was no other way

interpet it. He said he hoped Rangel would "retire with dignity". Unless you are certifianble, there isn't another way to look at this. Some are trying to put Spin on WH spin and it is pathetic. Obama feels (obviously) the Rangel issue is an embarassment. And it would be better for the dems if he retired. Thats it in a nutshell.

[saracat]

7. This is what he said:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5guL87 ...

Barack Obama says he hopes the 80-year-old lawmaker can end his career with dignity and some House Democrats want him to resign — now.

Obama, speaking on the issue for the first time, praised Rangel for serving his New York constituents over the years, but said he found the ethics charges "very troubling."

"He's somebody who's at the end of his career. I'm sure that what he wants is to be able to end his career with dignity. And my hope is that it happens," Obama said in an interview that aired Friday on "CBS Evening News with Katie Couric."

Even in Rangel's own state delegation, a base of staunch support, there was a crack. Democratic Rep. Michael Arcuri from central New York said Rangel "should think about stepping down because this situation is beginning to affect our ability to govern."

As House members headed home for the August recess, they wrestled with how to handle the ethics brouhaha three months before the midterm elections. Republicans already were eager to use Rangel's problems as a way to tar other Democrats on the issue of corruption.

Before Arcuri's statement Saturday, a half-dozen Democrats either conditionally or outright had called for Rangel to resign.

Rep. John Yarmuth, D-Ky., said the allegations against Rangel brought by the House ethics committee show a consistent disregard for House rules and that he should step down.

"It is our job as members of Congress to hold each other accountable to a higher standard regardless of party," said Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick, D-Ariz. "If the serious charges against (Rangel) are accurate, he needs to resign."

There was talk of Rangel's resignation as well from Democratic Reps. Walter Minnick of Idaho, Betty Sutton of Ohio, Zack Space of Ohio, and Mary Jo Kilroy of Ohio.

Rangel denies the charges announced Thursday by the ethics panel and says they contain factual errors.

In a meeting Friday with fellow New York lawmakers, Rangel "indicated there was some sloppiness" in his official papers, Rep. Edolphus Towns, D-N.Y., told reporters, "but, you know, there's no criminality here."

The delegation and the Congressional Black Caucus, which was co-founded by Rangel, urged their colleagues not to rush to judgment. House leaders were mum on what Rangel should do.

Rangel faces 13 charges of misusing his office as well as tax and disclosure violations. If Rangel and the ethics committee do not settle the case, it goes to a public trial this fall, at the height of an election season.

Further complicating matters for Democrats, a House investigative panel decided Friday to charge Democratic Rep. Maxine Waters of California with ethics violations, raising the possibility of a second trial. The alleged violations by Rangel and Waters are not related.

People familiar with the Waters investigation, who were not authorized to be quoted about charges that had not been announced, told the AP the allegations could be made public next week.

Republicans already were on the attack.

The GOP's campaign arm, the National Republican Campaign Committee, released a list of Democrats who have not returned campaign contributions they received from Rangel during their careers and said those lawmakers would face questions about the matter from constituents during the August break.

Rep. Gene Green, the Texas Democrat who led the four-member bipartisan panel of investigators, told reporters that his committee recommended a relatively mild punishment for Rangel: reprimand, a statement of wrongdoing voted by the whole House that carries no other penalty.

But that's not what some lawmakers, including Democrats, view as adequate.

"If at the trial's conclusion Mr. Rangel is found guilty by his peers, then he should incur the full punishment allowed by the House, including removal from office," said Rep. Bobby Bright, D-Ala.

AP writer Larry Margasak contributed to this report.

Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

[butterfly77]

16. If he did or didn't..

he should go,its time for some new blood. Its time to prep some younger guys to kick the republiCONS asses! Now Maxine that's another story...

[DevonRex]

3. DU didn't bother to read or listen to what he said, either.

:shrug:

[malaise]

10. Clearly

Damn!

[DevonRex]

12. .

Yep.

[saracat]

4. Because he did imply it. Why don't the dems "defend " Rangel ?

And Maxine Waters?Why is it acceptable for Geithener to be a tax evader but not Rangel? Why don't the Dems go after the GOP instead of siding with the GOP against their own? Why isn't the Ensign matter pursued? or the Vitter matter? Ensign and Vitter were all about money too and what about C street? What about GOP Congressman who had their residences paid for by BP? WE are only cooperating in attacking our own but we let the GOP walk free! And we sure have given Bush and Cheney a pass.

[napi21]

8. Here's the video of what Obama said about Rangel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouWFawyuHjQ

[malaise]

11. Don't expect too many responses

Some people have decided what he said even if he didn't say it. Unfuggingbelievable.

[DevonRex]

15. I believe it.

That's the way it goes around here if it's about Obama. Every single day on every single issue.

[saracat]

17. "End of his career?" Charlie is up for reelection."retire with dignity" ?

I know exactly what the President said. And to think it meant anything other than he hoped Rangel would resign is disingenuous. The president is playing politics, and trying to positively effect the midterms because the Rangel trial will take a lot of oxygen. I really don't get why some think that the president is anything but a politician.

[malaise]

19. What this means to me is that he wants to clear his name

since he is at the end of his career. He is 80 years old after all.
I heard nothing that suggests that Obama wants him to resign.


“He’s somebody who’s at the end of his career. … I’m sure that what he wants is to be able to end his career with dignity. And my hope is that it happens.”

[DevonRex]

21. That's what it means to me, too.

But then, I don't spend my time trying to read negativity into anything Obama says or does.

[saracat]

22. It isn't negativity. Its politics. It is like whether you "believe" people actually

"resign to spend time with their families". Obama is first and foremost a politician.

[Whisp]

26. and some are suggesting ways that Obama 'should have' said it

heh.

[blogslut]

9. Because manufactured controversy sells soap

It's summer and the newsies are crying for attention.

[SunsetDreams]

13. you got that right

[DevonRex]

14. White House: "We're Not Pushing Rangel"

....

"Democrats hope Rangel finds a way to settle the case before opening a sensational trial in September, just ahead of the elections.
The President sounded like he was on the same page, when he told CBS: “He’s somebody who’s at the end of his career. … I’m sure that what he wants is to be able to end his career with dignity. And my hope is that it happens.”

But Burton said that was not a hint. “We’re going to wait until (the ethics committee) appropriately answer all those questions before weighing in on something that’s a matter before that committee,” he told reporters.

“I think the President’s comments speak for themselves,” Burton insisted. “When it comes to this process, he’s just not going to put his thumb on the scale of its outcome.”

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dc/2010/08/white-house-were-not-pushing-r.html#ixzz0vUa73VKN


http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/dc/2010/08/white-house-were-not-pushing-r.html

[saracat]

18. Whenever the president speaks , it is a hint. He COULD have said "I am not going to comment due to

the investigation. I am going to wait for the answers from the committee." But he didn't. His finger IS on the sale. He doesn't want a trail because it wouldn't be good politics to have one.

[DevonRex]

20. *snicker*

[saracat]

25. What comic genuis is displayed in this response!

:sarcasm:

[Whisp]

23. maybe you should apply to be his speech writer.

:rofl:

and today from President Obama on his weekly radio address:

I am a complete failing corporate whore shill that is responsible for everything from the boils on your ass to climate change.

[saracat]

24. It is very sad that you think that passes for humor. But then

an appreciation of wit as displayed by writers like Oscar Wilde, performers like monty python and satirists like Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart requires an intellect.Your post has all the wit of a 3 day old breakfast pastry.

[Whisp]

27. my pasties are quite lively, thank you.

:rofl: