Anybody hear of HR 5471Mandatory Service for 2 years?

[lovuian]

I'm reading about it on blogs and wondering if it is just smoke?
It sounds like a draft to me and the age troubles me 18-42
if it just BS Good I feel better

[laconicsax]

1. Do you mean this bill?

HR 5471: To amend the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 to extend for 6 months the increase provided under that Act in the Medicaid Federal medical assistance percentage (FMAP).

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d111:1:./temp/~bdqkcI:@@@L&summ2=m&|/home/LegislativeData.php|

[lovuian]

2. it looks like the Blog is bogus thanks for looking into it

I was just curious about it thats the number but its not Mandatory Service
Whew

[laconicsax]

3. Just out of curiosity, what blog?

:shrug:

[brooklynite]

4. Well, they'll need a lot of guards for the FEMA detention camps.....

[MidwestTransplant]

8. Yeah but keep that quiet so the Teabaggers don't find out.

[Jumping John]

5. The correct bill is HR 5741 and it is real - Rangel has always wanted a draft for the

Chicken Hawks as he sees them and he thinks t will cause the war to end sooner if there are no deferments offered for anyone. This bill still would not require Bush to serve but yea his daughters would.

There is no co-sponsors and it is currently in the armed forces committee.

YUP

[Fearless]

6. These sorts of things come up every year or so...

Nothing ever happens. It's just a political ploy.

[one_voice]

7. Here's some info...

H.R. 5741

To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, and for other purposes.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-5741

For context, Congressman Rangel has introduced this bill many times in the past. Each time, it has received very little support, and Rangel knows it has no chance of being passed.

Congressman Rangel Reintroduces Bill To Reinstate Military Draft
July 15, 2010 2:58 PM

WASHINGTON - Congressman Charles Rangel on Thursday introduced H.R. 5741, a bill that would reinstate a compulsory military draft, or alternative national service, during times of war, for men and women, aged 18 to 42, who are citizens or permanent residents of the United States.

"What troubles me most about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is the total indifference to the suffering and loss of life among our brave young soldiers on the battlefield," Congressman Rangel said. "The reason is that so few families have a stake in the war which is being fought by other people's children.

"The test for Congress, particularly for those members who support the war, is to require all who enjoy the benefits of our democracy to contribute to the defense of the country. All of America's children should share the risk of being placed in harm's way.

"In other words, if you support the war, you should support a compulsory military draft," Congressman Rangel said.

The bill, which the Congressman first introduced in 2003 as the nation prepared for the invasion of Iraq, and offered again in 2004, 2006, and 2007, provides for:

• A national service obligation--either military or civilian--for every citizen and permanent resident, male and female, of the U.S., aged 18 to 42.

• Persons may inducted to perform military service only if a declaration of war is in effect, or if the President declares a national emergency necessitating the induction of persons to perform military service and immediately informs Congress of the reasons for the declaration.

• Defines "national service" as either military or civilian service as defined by the President that promotes national or homeland security.

• Give the President the authority to establish the numbers of persons to be selected for military service and the means of selection.

• Requires those not selected for military service to perform their national service obligation in a civilian capacity for a period of two years.

• Directs the President to prescribe the regulations necessary to carry out the act.

• Deferments for education are only permitted through completion of high school, to a maximum age of 20.

• Deferments may be made for physical or mental disability, or under claims of conscientious objector.

BRINGING THE TROOPS HOME

Rangel said that he was not challenging President Obama's handling of the war in Iraq or Afghanistan, conflicts with few options that the President had inherited from the previous Administration.

"I support the President's intentions to withdraw our troops, but I'd like to see it happen sooner. In my view, no additional tax dollars should be appropriated for any reason except to bring home our brave and exhausted young men and women. The loss of 5,500 lives and 38,000 wounded is enough

*snip*

http://rangel.house.gov/2010/07/rangeldraft0716.html