Deepak Chopra gets owned

[bik0]

believe it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qySx8tSs8BQ

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. lulz

[breadandwine]

32. Guru say..........

Suppose your neighbor is building an atom bomb in his back yard.
It is in HIS back yard.
It is not in YOUR back yard.
So what do you have to mix in for?

Swami bami karma say if you stop worrying you will be happy................

[BeHereNow]

2. Bwahahahahh! Thanks for that!

I file Chopra in the Benny Hinn folder.
Charlatans. Both of them.
BHN

[JuniperLea]

4. Anyone who makes money off poor, sad people...

Is exactly that.

[BeHereNow]

8. The guy who held the phony sweat lodge comes to mind.

People died due to his greed and negligence.
Not to mention his lack of respect for indigenous ceremony.

BHN

[JuniperLea]

9. That is a prime example alright...

Greed is very ugly, and under certain circumstances, very dangerous.

I'm sick of greed and jealousy... and I hate whenever I see a shred of either in myself.

[annabanana]

3. OK.. That was really really lovely!

just perfect..

HEY!! Who unrecc'd my rec?

[Lisa0825]

5. OH! Can I steal to crosspost in the Atheist/Agnostics group?

BURN! lol

[patrice]

6. His belief about belief may be a cover-up for insecurity too, but that doesn't mean that the probabi

lity of the validity of his belief is any less/more than any other belief about anything else. One may hypothesize that, since he knows more about the organism that believes, his belief about that believing is more probable than those who believe without knowing much about believers.

[BeHereNow]

7. The unknown knowns...

Sorry, your post reminded me of the Rumsfeld speech!
LOL.
Not giving you a hard time, just laughing with you, not at you.
BHN

[GoneOffShore]

15. Reminds me of Palin dressed word salad.

[patrice]

17. The point is that insecurity has nothing to do with probable validity.

But the doctor, who knows more about the organism which is the subject of "insecurity" and/or "validity" has a higher probability of being valid than someone who knows less about that same organism.

[GoneOffShore]

21. ? ??????

[patrice]

25. It IS possible to be insecure and right. It is also possible to be insecure and wrong. And

It is possible to be secure and right. And it is possible to be secure and wrong.

Insecure or not, the further we move away from belief and toward knowledge, the higher the probability of being right/valid.

Though the doctor's knowledge of that which believes/doesn't believe/knows/doesn't know/is secure/is insecure, i.e. the organism characterized by these traits, though his knowledge of that organism and its various states-of-being is high, maybe even the highest possible knowledge, there are no 100% absolutes, so because his knowledge is not complete there is an element of belief in what he says about the relationship between belief and insecurity, BUT because he has MORE knowledge about believing/knowing/feeling secure, the probable validity of his belief about belief is higher than someone with LESS knowledge (and MORE just belief) about belief.

[JuniperLea]

10. I can't believe it...

Really.

I'm sorry... that was not right of me... what BHN said above...
:hi:

[BeHereNow]

11. I hope Patrice has a sense of humor...

Sorry, I just couldn't help think of the famous Rumsfeld ramble after reading
that...
Apologies if I offended.
BHN

[JuniperLea]

14. Me too...

Your apology was exactly as I was feeling... I hope Patrice takes no offense!

[patrice]

18. None taken.

:hi: I'm not that insecure. :hi:

[BeHereNow]

20. Whew! Thanks for understanding and having a sense of humor!

:thumbsup: :hug:
BHN

[patrice]

22. Though the basic assumptions are serious, I was really just sort of playing around with the concept.

:thumbsup: :hug:
me

[JuniperLea]

33. Hahahaha!

Touche!

:hi:

[postulater]

12. Your hypothesis may be wrong, but there is a probability that it is correct.

[BeHereNow]

13. It is simply one of those known unknowns...

:evilgrin: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Sorry, I just can't help it...
I'm being haunted by the ghost of Rummy Rhetoric tonight!
BHN

[Wounded Bear]

29. I know you think you understand...

what you thought I said, but I'm not sure that what you heard was exactly what I meant.

;)

[Wounded Bear]

30. delete....dupe. Sorry

:(

[Ramulux]

16. What?

How is this getting owned? The old dude's little word-play game doesn't actually make sense.

[Jigglebilly]

35. i agree. Reminds me of smart ass freshman who just discovered Libertarianism

trying to play semantic "gotcha". The video doesn't show the reaction at all. Only assholish dolts would find this amusing and intellectually honest. I doubt anyone sniggering at this video could even outline Chopra's work without running to Wiki.

[Ramulux]

37. For real

I dont agree with a lot of what Chopra says but there is no denying he is an incredibly intelligent guy with some really out there theories that half the people on here couldn't even begin to understand.

[wildflower]

19. I can't seem to access the video

Would you mind summarizing it briefly? I'm very interested in the topic.

[grantcart]

23. A questioner asks

"You said that all belief is actually a cover up for security, is that correct?"

Deepak "Yes"

"Do you believe that?"

Deepak "Yes"

The questioner returns to his seat as the audience laughs. Deepak appears not to get the joke.

[wildflower]

24. I see, thank you. n/t

[zazen]

26. yeah, but all spiritual expressions are flawed signposts--propositional language fails

I haven't watched this--I've just seen your transcript (did you mean covering up for "insecurity?" or "security"?)

Deep spiritual truths can always be constructed to be nonsensical, and ultimately are.

And nonsensical things can be constructed to be nonsensical (or palatable, like the lies Beck spews every night.)

That's our human condition. We are trying to concretize, conceptualize, symbolize, the ineffable. Through us, universal ineffability (God, Nirvana, universal consciousness) gets a chance to be experienced and expressed in fresh ways, but we'll never describe it 100% accurately. We can't. It's our "fallen" nature. Eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil gives you the capacity to carve up the world with your left brain n' all and share it with fellow humans through language, but it's always a poor reflection of the infinite. We ain't in Eden anymore.

Chopra's a bit too self-promoting for my tastes, but I wouldn't make fun of him for this.

[Odin2005]

27. That man is a snake oil salesman who should be in jail for his quantum quackery.

[PanoramaIsland]

28. You're damned right he is.

It really broke my heart to see him on Colbert - he's just the new-agey liberal version of a greedy televangelist.

[BuddhaGirl]

36. by all means

let's throw people in jail for their beliefs. :eyes:

Hyperbole much?

[spin]

31. Great video. (n/t)

[JI7]

34. what were they talking about ? i thought Deepak was a "believer"