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Raggz Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 11:14 PM
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Mongolian neo-Nazis: Anti-Chinese sentiment fuels rise of ultra-nationalism
Source: The Guardian (UK)

Their right hands rise to black-clad chests and flash out in salute to their nation: "Sieg heil!" They praise Hitler's devotion to ethnic purity. But with their high cheekbones, dark eyes and brown skin, they are hardly the Third Reich's Aryan ideal. A new strain of Nazism has found an unlikely home: Mongolia. Once again, ultra-nationalists have emerged from an impoverished economy and turned upon outsiders. This time the main targets come from China, the rising power to the south.

But critics say they scapegoat and attack the innocent. The US state department has warned travellers of increased assaults on inter-racial couples in recent years – including organised violence by ultra-nationalist groups. Dayar Mongol threatened to shave the heads of women who sleep with Chinese men. Three years ago, the leader of Blue Mongol was convicted of murdering his daughter's boyfriend, reportedly because the young man had studied in China.

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/02/mongolia-far-right



Just what we need - Nazis in China
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 11:21 PM
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1. Illinois Nazis were bad enough, now this?!
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 01:51 AM
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7. Look Into Ungern von Sternberg, Sir
A fascinating figure in an almost wholly forgotten passage of twentieth century history....
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 12:26 PM
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9. interesting...had never heard of him until now...
thanks
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 01:10 PM
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10. irony is dead
i'm sure the white power crowd is welcoming these clowns with open arms...

Tomorrow, more on that new Maori offshoot of the KKK
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PanoramaIsland Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 11:30 PM
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2. Sounds a lot like the neo-Nazis in Russia and here in the U.S...
"If we start mixing with Chinese, they will slowly swallow us up. Mongolian society is not very rich. Foreigners come with a lot of money and might start taking our women."

Because, you know, they OWN "their" women.

These groups always seem to arise around fear of immigrants - here in the USA, in Russia (currently the neo-Nazi capital of the world), and now in Mongolia.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 11:34 PM
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3. Welcome to DU...
:hi:
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PanoramaIsland Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-10 11:38 PM
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4. Why thank you! :) n/t
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 01:15 AM
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5. China respects Mongolia's independence.
During the decades of domination of Mongolia by Russia, including imposition of the Russian language and serious infringement on sovereignty, China always supported Mongolia's aspiration for independence within its territorial borders. I'm sure, though, there are some Mongol chauvinists who wish to impinge of China's sovereignty, for instance by supported "Inner Mongolia" separatism with the aim of a "Greater Mongolia" in mind. All such sentiments do is keep the developing south divided and inhibit peace and development.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 10:44 AM
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8. Of course.
The Chinese aren't stupid.

They're in favor of independence (i.e., lack of dependence) and self-determination for those who are dependent on their enemies. It reduces the influence of an enemy on Chinese borders, esp. one that they had fought.

They're against independence and self-determination for any territory they control. It reduces their influence and dominance.

The US, in the '50s and early '60s, was absolutely no different. We wanted independence and self-determination for Soviet allies near the US and independence from China and the Soviet Union for states on their borders. At the same time, we wanted dependence on the US for any country near our borders or near China's and the USSR's borders.

The current borders of China and Russia reflect a long period of imperialism, and both aspire to increase their borders nearly to the maximum that the nasty imperialists in their history achieved--that's their "true" borders. The Han have committed and are effectively committing genocide. The Russians did the same for a while, but have trouble with it these days. At least the Russians don't hypocritically rant about being anti-imperialist and anti-colonialist these days.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 09:29 PM
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11. What about Myanmar?
Myanmar is arguably a close ally of China diplomatically, and has important trade relations with it. Yet China also supports its sovereignty and independence. I have no doubt that if Aung San Suu Kyi was president that China would feel the same way and persevere in its current policy toward Myanmar.

I am not saying there is no potential for China to evolve into an imperialist power; but, as of yet, it is not one. I am referring here to China's external relations, and not its internal ones. Whether or not those could be characterized as neo-colonial or national chauvinist, to me, is separate, yet related discussion.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 01:23 AM
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6. I read this today...yet more disgusting racism as usual.
No wonder there's a motorcycle gang in America called Mongols.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-07-10 06:38 AM
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