Chuck Norris: Obama will use domestic assassination program to bump off white Xtian right-wingers

[marmar]

:crazy:




from the American Family Assn.:



Chuck Norris
Obama's U.S. assassination program? Part 2

Date: 8/2/2010 9:33:08 AM


In Part 1 last week, I gave evidence of how the Obama administration is importing its overseas policy to assassinate U.S. citizens and implementing it stateside against citizens it deems as radical threats to American security and safety. (If you have not it, please read Part 1 before you read remaining of Part 2).

National security adviser John Brennan explained that the problem of homegrown terrorists ranks as a top priority because of the increasing number of U.S. individuals who have become "captivated by extremist ideology or causes." He went on to say, "There are … dozens of U.S. persons who are in different parts of the world that are very concerning to us."

Former director of national intelligence, Admiral Dennis Blair even confessed before Congress: "We take direct actions against terrorists in the intelligence community. If we think that direct action will involve killing an American, we get specific permission to do that."

That's right. No arrest. No Miranda rights. No due process. No trial. Just a bullet.

Ironically, or maybe not so, and also under the radar, the Supreme Court just ruled to back off strict enforcement of Miranda rights. Charles Weisselberg, a law professor at U.C. Berkeley, said, "This is the most important Miranda decision in a decade. And it will have a substantial impact on police practices. This decision approves of the practice of giving the warnings and then asking questions of the suspect, without asking first whether he wants to waive his rights."

President Obama himself explained in an often overlooked statement within the document of the National Security Strategy: "We are now moving beyond traditional distinctions between homeland and national security. … This includes a determination to prevent terrorist attacks against the American people by fully coordinating the actions that we take abroad with the actions and precautions that we take at home." ...........(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.afa.net/Blogs/BlogPost.aspx?id=2147497085

[babylonsister]

1. You just have to laugh! What a complete ass this makes him

sound like, if he wasn't a big enough one already. :crazy: is right!

[bergie321]

46. Except

That idiots will believe him and start stockpiling weapons for the coming "war". It won't be long before one of them fills a U-Haul with fertilizer and diesel and goes looking for the nearest federal building.

[Blue_Tires]

2. holy shit they're on to our plans!!

[YOY]

3. and when he doesn't will you be held to your crazy word?

No. No you won't.

[MrScorpio]

4. At least we can tell these days exactly when Chuck is off his meds. n/t

[spiritual_gunfighter]

5. He was much more tolerable

When he was kicking Richard Lynch's ass on the big screen.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

8. I see no difference between the OP diatribe and that formatted-as-a-movie diatribe.

Other than stuff blowing up, of course.

If you watched that one you'll agree with me.

[Sheepshank]

21. where is is bulging manlihood?

has been airbrushed out? Or is he out to "compensate" after all of these years?

[sui generis]

6. and Chuck, that is as it should be.

Because before your blovation, nobody knew that progressives are really evil assassins in disguise.

Now you have unmasked us and we must kill you. Be afraid. Be very afraid. I was in the meeting where Obama said he specifically wanted to send a gay assassin after Chuck Norris, preferably a drag queen to beat you to death with a can of Aqua Net, or else a mega-church crack addict preacher.

I was able to snap a picture from the file using my electronic assassin eye, and wanted to share what's coming after you.

[foxfeet]

53. And she knows how to use a rat tail comb.

[City Lights]

7. Chuck, please seek help. You truly need it.

What a case. :eyes:

[WillParkinson]

9. Can we add him to the list?

I mean he's getting weirder and weirder as time goes by. After all, this is the same man who said, "if elected President he would : "Tattoo an American flag with the words, "In God we trust," on the forehead of every atheist."

[eShirl]

10. Chuck should be more worried about man-sized butterfly nets. n/t

[Botany]

11. From World Net Daily?

What an idiot dip wad.

BTW Wanna talk about assassination?

David Kelly, Michael Connelly, Bruce Ivans, Ray Lemme, and the D.C. Madam.

[gratuitous]

30. Good thing that jeans ad specifies adult sizes are available, too

Because Chuck isn't exactly vertically gifted.

[arbusto_baboso]

12. Chuck's been watching too many of his own old, bad movies.

Which all sucked, by the way.

[sinkingfeeling]

13. Isn't it that Patriot Act, you Righwingers so loved, that allows the President to decide who is a

'terrorist'?

[blondeatlast]

14. Y'all know where Chuckie got his show-biz start, right?

Teaching karate moves to the Osmonds, mostly for their dance routines. No, I don't hav e a link handy, but I was an Osmond fan and read it straight from Donny's mouth in "Tiger Beat."

No, I'm NOT kiddiing.

[pipi_k]

15. One too many kicks to his head n/t

[w8liftinglady]

16. aw,hell...chuck lives 10 miles from me...are you jealous,yet?

[Ezlivin]

17. Jesus had to die twice to save Chuck Norris

There's not enough Holy Spirit to fill all of Chuck Norris.

Chuck Norris will decide when the Second Coming takes place.

Say what you want, but without Chuck Norris we probably wouldn't even have a civilization.

(Do I need the little sarcasm thingy here?)

[Proud Liberal Dem]

18. Boy, the right LOVES to pretend to be oh so victimized and threatened by the left, Democrats, et. al

whenever WE are in power. Some on the right (i.e. Cheney) are STILL out there every day justifying, apologizing for, and rationalizing things like, um, waterboarding and otherwise torturing human beings and, to date, nobody on the right AFAIK has ever called for Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, or any other (mis-)administration official whom was involved with or had knowledge of what was going on at Gitmo or Abu Gharib to be held accountable for their actions.
:banghead:

[Webster Green]

19. It's a great idea, but I doubt it will happen.

Obama would gain points from me if he started taking the mutherfuckers out. :smoke:

[bergie321]

47. Where can I sign up?

Talk about a jobs program...

[BlueIdaho]

20. What a baffoon.

Chuck continues his march to obscurity...

[FiveGoodMen]

22. He can start with Chuck.

[Ganja Ninja]

23. I only wish Obama was half as ruthless as these people claim he's going to be.

We're coming for you Chuck! Keep looking over your shoulder. Don't answer the door. Any sleep no matter how short may be your last. Be afraid! Be very afraid!
:crazy: :hide:

[DirkGently]

24. Sad that Crazy Chuck has a point here.

No, not about a Presidential plot to assassinate rightwingers. Certainly not about the idiotic interpetations about Interpol.

But when the U.S. claims the right to engage in "targeted killings" outside of a lawful war, and then claims the right to do the same to American citizens it regards as enemies, it's not even slightly crazy to suppose those illegal acts could be used to kill the "wrong" people, however you define that. That's just a factual description of the inherent problem with letting the government secretly kill secret targets for secret reasons irrespective of whether we're "at war."

One thing to take away here is to ask how far astray we've gone when we allow our government to actually live up (down?) to the fevered ravings of conspiracy theorists.

[Vinnie From Indy]

50. You are exactly correct! Even crazy dumbass B-Actors can swerve into the truth

The fact is that President Obama's Admin HAS argued that it has the right to kill Americans with NO judicial review. That fact is irrefutable. The part most Americans allow to flow past them is the the fact that the Obama people are using for their argument an American with an Arabic name living in Yemen and allegedly tied to known terrorists. While this American in Yemen may be a piece of shit terrorist, the fact is that the Obama people have argued that he can be killed far from any battlefield and with no notice. If the President claims to have the power to kill Americans simply by labeling them terrorists with no judicial review, it could just as well be Pete Smith in Ohio or Fred Johnson in Arizona that the Prez whacks at his whim. Norris is insane and has no real understanding of his subject, but in this case he is partially correct.

[walldude]

25. Chuck Norris is an ignorant asshole...

But that "program" Obama started is as bad or worse than any Constitutional violations Bush did. Killing American citizens without a trial or the right to face their accusers? Death to American citizens because the Government says they are bad people?

Right off the fucking deep end.

[Initech]

26. I believe the next verse is: "And Jesus sayeth unto hs disciples: fucketh it, I quit. "

[Deep13]

27. If only. nt

[Loudmxr]

28. This would make a lot more non sense if only

1.The lefties have all disarmed themselves so they have no guns.

2.All the rightwingers shooting up the country right now with Hannity and Beck and Bernie books as their shoot-em-up-guides.

3.You can't hear any death threats against you BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ALL THE TIME!! (wow have you ever seen this guy on Larry's show?)

Oh I agree with #13 Isn't this the Patriot Act at its finest? Unitary Executive Decision making powers that Chuckie and Cheney wanted? :shrug:

[Dr.Phool]

29. What's taking him so long?

:hide: :rofl: :hide: :rofl: :hide: :rofl:

[Mike Daniels]

31. I remember when the AFA while looney still had a foot in reality

If they're now running conspiracy theories from a hack "B" movie/TV actor it appears they've given up on even being somewhat "grounded".

[MyNameGoesHere]

32. $uck norris is a idiot, President Obama authorizing the assassination

of Muslim cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, a US citizen is impeachable. Not sure who wins this argument.

[ljm2002]

33. Chuck Norris is an ass...

...with that said, however, as long as any President claims the power to kill American citizens without due process, people will rightly fear how that power will be used. Now I'm pretty sure that Obama won't use it to kill political enemies. But what if, say, Sarah Palin got into office? It's a bad precedent that has been set here. The fact that it was initiated by GWB does not absolve Obama from continuing it.

[Donnachaidh]

34. Does he still have full body hair waxing done?

I think the pain from having his shoulders waxed (brrrrr!!!!) shorted out his tiny brain, which already had problems from all those kicks to the head.

Hey Chuckie, you fat ugly has-been --- STFU and eat your oatmeal. Your caretaker wants to leave soon. :eyes:

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

35. I actually went and read the article - you should too

It never mentions "white Xtian right-wingers"

It actually seemed to be a fairly rational piece about the expansion of executive powers to assasinate those people who have been determined to be terrorists whether they are foreign or domestic. I read the first part , too.

You could have removed the name Chuck Norris and replaced with Glenn Greenwald and it would be applauded here by those concerned with the abuses and expansion of executive power.(like me)

I didn't have any quarrel with his piece although I have not double checked all his facts. He sourced almost all his statements.

Maybe instead of reflexively thinking that everyone on the right is a moron, we should actually read what they write.

I understand the paranoia of the right, because it's essentially the same as the paranoia of the left. We laugh at their fears of being rounded up in FEMA camps, but I remember when those very same fears were expressed right here on these boards and when people wondered if we would be "allowed" to have an election by Bush or if he was going to pre-emptively grab a third term. They're no kookier than we are and we should collectively be justifiably concerned about the kind of police state controls that were put in place by Bush and continued and expanded upon by Obama.

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On edit: ok they are actually a lot kookier than we are, but some of the same hot buttons are concerns to both groups and they seem to be of concern only when that group is out of power. The right didn't appear to care much when it was Bush doing it and the left doesn't seem to care much when it's Obama doing it.

Now that I am clearer that we have a group of power elites than span both parties and all administrations, I think we should be concerned about the erosion of civil rights and the expansion of government police powers ALL THE TIME.

[marmar]

36. Sorry, but Chuck Norris is a moron.....you should read his other babblings

..... about Obama hates the boy scouts and so on.

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

37. your title was deceptive - he didn't say anything at all about "white Xtian right-wingers"

In fact, I started writing a reply about how dangerous spreading that type of crap was, but then decided I should go read the article and when I did I found that it is actually you instead spreading falsehoods.

[marmar]

38. That implication is clear in the first few graphs.....interpret it as you will.

nt

[Phoebe Loosinhouse]

41. Here's the first few graphs where you say it is "clear"

(The quotes between the stars is the excerpt. Below the stars is me)

***************************************************************************
In Part 1 last week, I gave evidence of how the Obama administration is importing its overseas policy to assassinate U.S. citizens and implementing it stateside against citizens it deems as radical threats to American security and safety. (If you have not it, please read Part 1 before you read remaining of Part 2).

National security adviser John Brennan explained that the problem of homegrown terrorists ranks as a top priority because of the increasing number of U.S. individuals who have become "captivated by extremist ideology or causes." He went on to say, "There are … dozens of U.S. persons who are in different parts of the world that are very concerning to us."

Former director of national intelligence, Admiral Dennis Blair even confessed before Congress: "We take direct actions against terroristsin the intelligence community. If we think that direct action will involve killing an American, we get specific permission to do that."

*******************************************************************************

I bolded all the references to who is the target of these programs. Because Chuck Norris wrote the piece, you say it is clear that those domestics with the potential to be targeted are "white Xtian right-wingers".

If Glenn Greenwald wrote the same piece during the Bush admin we would all fret that those being targeted were left-wing liberals opposed to war and torture.

You put your own spin on who the targets are because of what you already think of Chuck Norris. I think you also put a gratutious racial spin on it as well - almost implying that Chuck Norris is trying to foment a race war by inciting "white Xtian right-wingers" to rise up against President Obama. I don't doubt there are those actually trying to do that - I just don't see it in this piece.

I never thought I would live to see the day where I was taking the side of Chuck Norris on DU.

[marmar]

43. Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree today.....

nt

[Vinnie From Indy]

52. You are exactly correct Phoebe!

The OP has engaged in a very deceptive post and should be ashamed. This is not the type of debate that reflects well on the OP or DU. I hope all DU'ers take a moment to reflect on the honesty of the OP and determine for themselves how they feel about it.

[old mark]

39. How I wish that were true! I 'd vote for Obama for President For Life!...nt

[CanonRay]

40. For once I wish the loonies were correct

[Joanne98]

42. Is he selling gold too?

[leeroysphitz]

44. I wish...

:evilgrin:

[guruoo]

45. Bush appointed Brennan Acting Director of the National Counterterrorism Center

Acting Director of the National Counterterrorism Center
In office
2004–2005
President George W. Bush
Preceded by New position

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_O._Brennan

[spanone]

48. let's hope that Obama starts with chuck

[KamaAina]

49. A few too many blows to the head, Chuck?

:shrug:

[IndianaGreen]

51. Setting aside Norris insanity, a future President could order our assassination

by labeling us as terrorists simply because we oppose his or her policies.

Many of us on the Left are opposed to having Presidents claim a power used by the likes of Henry VIII and Stalin to get rid of their enemies. It is not in the Constitution, and it is an abuse of power.

The ACLU and others have gone to court to challenge this extraordinary claim of power by the Administration.

If the rightwing teabaggers oppose this policy, even on nutty grounds, so much the better.

This policy must not be allowed to stand!

Here is the LBN thread on the lawsuit:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4490144