Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Park Ride Victim's Father: "She Was Dead" - Critical Condition - Freefall Net not Raised

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 09:43 AM
Original message
Park Ride Victim's Father: "She Was Dead" - Critical Condition - Freefall Net not Raised
A 12-year-old Florida girl is in critical but stable condition after falling more than 100 feet in an amusement park ride in Wisconsin. A safety net did not catch her.

Last Friday, Teagan Marti was looking for a thrill when she signed up for "Terminal Velocity," a freefall ride at Extreme World in Wisconsin Dells.

Teagan told her parents she wanted to do it after seeing the ride on a Travel Channel show. A person is raised to the top of a platform and then unhooked, free-falling at up to 52 miles per hour before, as the ride is designed, hitting the safety net below.

When Teagan was released, police say, the landing net was still fully on the ground. So when she hit, it did not break her fall.

The ride operator released the girl before the net was in place. In a statement to CBS News, the park said the accident was "caused by human error" and the ride operator is on "leave for mental health reasons."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/08/03/earlyshow/main6738986.shtml?tag=stack

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 09:53 AM
Response to Original message
1. Statements by the park iseems a bit at odds with each other
Edited on Tue Aug-03-10 09:54 AM by Whoa_Nelly
"caused by human error" and the ride operator is on "leave for mental health reasons."



So, was it a mistake? Or,mentally unstable to the point of causing harm by intent? Am sure there's more to all this, but the statements just seems conflicting and ambiguous to me.

I feel for that family, and even more so for the girl. Am hoping that the report of being stable means she will eventually fully recover.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 09:57 AM
Response to Reply #1
4. I take it to mean that he was so upset by what had happened
he left. "The mental health" reasons could be after the fact.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 10:00 AM
Response to Reply #4
11. Yup. That's my interpretation as well...nt


Sid
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 10:08 AM
Response to Reply #4
16. Had initially thought that, too
but the way it's presented shows poor journalism. Sometimes brevity of written report raises more questions rather than offering clear information.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 09:59 AM
Response to Reply #1
7. You'd think they'd put the person on leave for doing the job wrong, but I'm guessing they were
clumsily saying that the ride operator is devastated. I can't imagine what that person is going through.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 09:59 AM
Response to Reply #1
8. I read that as "nearly suicidal because he screwed up and killed a 12-year-old girl"
Not that he was some crazy dude they hired to run the ride.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 10:07 AM
Response to Reply #8
14. She's not dead - in critical condition
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 10:04 AM
Response to Reply #1
13. Knowing your are 100% completely responsible for potentialy killing another human...
Edited on Tue Aug-03-10 10:09 AM by Statistical
tends to cause "mental health reasons".

I mean the concept of the "ride" is:
1) raise a net
2) raise person
3) release person
4) person falls into net.

This operator did
1) didn't raise net - didn't occur to him or her this would be make the ride fatal.
2) raised person - still didn't occur to anyone that net isn't raised thus person will plummet to their guaranteed death
3) release person - didn't check to see net STILL isn't raised
4) person falls to their death. From the point of release it was a guarantee the victim would die (on edit: or at least be seriously injured).

I mean the ride isn't rocket science or really that complex.
fall + net = scary
fall + no net = lethal

The key component being operators needs to raise the net which didn't happen.
If I was responsible for that yeah I think it "might" affect my mental health.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 11:25 AM
Response to Reply #13
21. .
Edited on Tue Aug-03-10 11:27 AM by Occulus
Someone below bet me to it...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 11:28 AM
Response to Reply #1
22. I take that to mean the operator is suicidal or something
For causing it to happen.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 09:54 AM
Response to Original message
2. Sometimes parents need to say NO. I understand they thought the ride was "safe"
but that isn't the real world

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 09:58 AM
Response to Reply #2
5. Well in this case the age of a person would not matter.
Would it be any different if the girl was 14? I don't think so.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 10:12 AM
Response to Reply #5
18. A minor is still under their parents authority /nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 10:15 AM
Response to Reply #18
19. So is a 14 year old.
I don't get your point.
If an adult was dropped 100 feet without a safety net in place, the same exact thing would happen.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 02:13 PM
Response to Reply #19
26. My impression, which may be wrong , is the daughter asked her parents if she could go on
The ride, if that is the case, they were not aware of the risk I assume

Your point about physical effects on both adults and children I agree, and whether they should have such rides that exert such forces on people is a valid discussion

I was only commenting if the parents approved of the ride, they should have been more aware of the risk
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 09:57 AM
Response to Original message
3. Seems to me that this tragedy was completely avoidable.
There should have been safety interlock switches that won't allow the release of the ride until the net is in place. Making this an operator controlled release independent of the net deployment was asking for trouble...distractions or a simply case of the operator not paying attention/daydreaming happen and the manufacturer should have had these interlocks on their ride.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 09:58 AM
Response to Reply #3
6. +1 n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 09:59 AM
Response to Reply #3
9. Boggles the mind that the life of all the people taking this ride
apparently depends on whether some operator (how old is he, by the way?) is paying attention.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 10:00 AM
Response to Reply #3
12. Yep -sounds like an easy poka-yoke idiot-proofing miss.
What a shame it took something like this to point out what should have been obvious. It is hardly complex engineering to have an indictor that the net is deployed connected to a shutoff-switch for the release.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 10:08 AM
Response to Reply #3
15. In hindsight it is strange that such a system didn't exist.
I wonder if it was bypassed somehow.

Seems unlikely that a manufcaturer would open themselves up to that kind of liability. You know the manufacturer (as well as park) will be sued.

Most roller coaster will not "go" unless all seatbelts are down and locked. Doesn't matter what combination of buttons are pushed it simply will not go. I experienced the annoying flipside of that. The sensor on a coaster I was boarding malfunctioned. It indicated seat harness as not locked when it was. We sat there for 10 minutes while crew fiddled with it but it would not start the ride. Finally they had to have us deboard, remove that coaster from the track, load new coaster onto track, and resume ride.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 02:00 PM
Response to Reply #15
25. Bypassing interlocks is always a possiblity.
Back in the 70's, I used to work in a machine shop and I ran a stamping machine. Back then, before the advent of photo-electric 'shadow curtins', they had 2 "Go" buttons that were required to be hit before that ram would downstroke. In theory, both hands would be outside the work area. But, if you taped up one, you could be getting the next part while using only 1 hand to activate the ram. Many did this as a way to increase piece rates and make extra money. Of course, sometimes that free hand might late getting out of the work area - I had a few close calls with getting my hand flattened by a 300 Ton press...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 10:12 AM
Response to Reply #3
17. The original formulation of Murphy's Law
"If there's more than one way to do a job, and one of those ways will result in disaster, then somebody will do it that way."

In Murphy's case, he meant if two connectors were electrically incompatible, they need to be physically incompatible. The analogy to this case is pretty plain.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 11:49 AM
Response to Reply #3
24. But safety costs money. Why do you hate capitalism?
:sarcasm:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 09:59 AM
Response to Original message
10. Indisputable negligence. Wisconsin Dells will pay big time for this one.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hamsterjill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 11:19 AM
Response to Original message
20. One ride must always top another
As these thrill rides become more and more dangerous, the thought of outcomes such as this young girl's situation, really scares me. I wish her well, and I feel badly for the operator of the ride.

Amusement parks are struggling to stay in business, and they must each try to "top" the other ones in order to have the biggest thrill rides to attract customers. It's getting out of hand. "Thrill" is one thing; "danger" is another.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 11:28 AM
Response to Original message
23. I cannot believe that ride doesn't have a failsafe in regards to the net
No net, no release. WTF.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 02:55 PM
Response to Original message
27. This is a video of Terminal Velocity. It would be really hard to miss the net not being in place
but still, relying on a person can be iffy. Human error happens every day in all kinds of situations.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCB9zCHlVXA
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun Jan 05th 2025, 05:11 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC