birther Lt Col charged--Lakin enters plea tomorrow **update :)

[roscoeroscoe]

Source: greeley tribune

Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin will appear before a military judge Aug. 6 to enter his plea in a court-martial proceeding that are currently ongoing against the former Greeley resident.

Lakin is being court-martialed by the Army for refusing to obey orders to deploy to Afghanistan because Lakin believes the President has refused to prove his eligibility under the Constitution to hold office. Lakin wants Obama to show his birth certificate.

A trial is presumed to be scheduled before October. It will be held in Washington at Fort McNair.

“I am not guilty of these charges,” Lakin said in a news release. “And (I) will plead ‘not guilty' to them ... If President Obama is a natural born citizen then the American people deserve to see proof, and if he is not, then I believe the orders in this case were illegal.”

If convicted, Lakin faces up to four years in a federal penitentiary

Read more: http://www.greeleytribune.com/article/20100802/NEWS/100809946/1002&parentprofile=1

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as a soldier i should just post the item and leave it at that. what are your thoughts on this conduct?

update!*****the follow up is fantastic--the good news just keeps coming this week:--

Lakin’s father Frank told the Greeley Tribune Friday that his son’s video wasn’t representative of the family. “This does not reflect the opinions or the attitude of the family by any means,” he said. “We’re Obama supporters.”

[scheming daemons]

1. Court marital, conviction, and lock him up... I'd be fine with it.

[proud2BlibKansan]

2. He refused to follow orders so yes, he is guilty

I'm not familiar with military justice but is a soldier allowed to decide if an order is legal?

[qazplm]

10. yes and no

an order is presumed to be legal. So a Soldier should ordinarily follow it, to not do so, he does at his peril.

But he also cannot follow an illegal order, so he has a duty not to follow illegal orders.

But the universe of illegal orders is very small, kill that infant for example, or rape that woman, two very obvious illegal orders.

Deploy even though you think I might not be natural born would obviously not fall within that universe.

I know the judge involved. A very, very nice woman. She will make sure he is feeling ok, make sure everything goes right, and then, if they decide to go judge alone, she will absolutely hammer him. Her nickname has been the velvet hammer.

If he goes panel (jury), he will also get hammered because a bunch of senior officers will be pulled away from their duties to deal with him and they will not be happy about it.

I think he gets at least six months, maybe more along with a dismissal.

[msanthrope]

13. DId you catch where the hearing officer is allowing Alan Keyes to be called?

I mean, I feel for the judge, and the potential jury, but I am certain that Ambassador Keyes will provide 'dinner and a show.'

[msanthrope]

11. A soldier can challenge an order that is clearly illegal.

Sure.

But here, Lakin is tasked with explaining why he can't follow the order of a Congressional Medal of Honor winner to merely deploy.

The order he is charged with defying did not issue from President Obama.

It issued from Col. Gordon Roberts, who won the CMH at 19, in Vietnam. He refused an order to report to Fort Campbell, KY and thence to follow deployment to Afghanistan.....

And that's what he's gonna have to answer for, and he's not gonna be able to make some crazy ass claim that the Army is obligated to prove to him that every official from Roberts on up to Obama is the legal holder of office they currently occupy.

Now, the hearing officer is allowing Lakin to call Ambassador Alan Keyes. That should be fun.

[CLANG]

16. Alan Keyes! If that's the best he has, he's complete toast!

[Arctic Dave]

3. This guy is a class A jackass.

If for any other reason then the one he is putting up for not wanting to go to the Middle East I would probably side with him. This reason is just straight up stoooooooopid!

[Ikonoklast]

4. I hear Leavenworth has room for him.

He's a complete and total idiot; he disgraced the uniform and dishonored his oath as an officer.

[Hawkeye-X]

5. I hope he gets dishonorable discharge, denied ALL bennies

and his assets seized to pay for court costs, spend life in prison for treason (or whatever charges they can come up with defying the orders of his Commander in Chief)

[Xipe Totec]

6. To be fair, he should be psychiatrically evaluated

The guy made it all the way to Lt. Colonel.

Surely he had his marbles at some point.

Let's not put the poor bastard in prison for a medical condition.

[Hawkeye-X]

7. The minute he went birfer, he lost all credibility

and I wouldn't even give his ass the time of the day much less than seeking shrink help.

He needs to serve more than 4 years - he needs to serve life for treason and dumped in the worst possible fed prison

[Xipe Totec]

8. For being batshit crazy? nt

[The Magistrate]

17. Pour Encourager Les Autres, Sir, Certainly

People need to know bad things will happen for engaging in this sort of nonesense. Right now, it is a good deal of fun to posture as a 'birther'. Add some real danger, it becomes less fun, and the game will pall....

[Bitwit1234]

9. He doesn't have a leg to stand on..Obama did not issue

the orders to deploy...His outfit did. Nothing had Obama's signature on it. I think the guy was chicken and didn't want to go and used this as an excuse.

[zipplewrath]

12. The guy has serious issues

Quite honestly he's gonna need help. He needs to be charged and convicted. Then it needs to be determined if he needs help.

[Canuckistanian]

14. Talk about a career-killer

Agitate for the cause of destroying your Commander-in-Chief.

I'm surprised he wasn't out by now.

[CLANG]

15. Lakin is a racist pure and simple.

[Scurrilous]

18. K & R

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