Google and Verizon make deal to screw users that don't use a Google platform (Android).

[onehandle]

(On edit, this appears to be a rehashing of what we all read a couple of days ago. Google is denying, but will still not confirm exactly what they are discussing with Verizon. See John Gruber's comment below.)

John Gruber:

'But these strike me as non-denial denials. The question is: have Google and Verizon reached an agreement that allows Verizon to favor Android phones or Google web services over mobile networks?'

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/08/06/google-verizon-statements
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Google and Verizon have come to an agreement on how network operators can manage Web traffic, according to two sources briefed on their negotiations.

The agreement, expected to be announced within days, comes as the Federal Communications Commission tries to get major Internet content firms and network service providers to strike a deal on disputed points of so-called net neutrality rules. It's unclear how the deal will affect the direction of those discussions.

The FCC said Verizon and Google are still part of meetings between senior staff and officials at AT&T, Skype, a cable trade association and the Open Internet Coalition. Public interest groups criticized the meetings and the rumored agreement between Verizon and Google for allowing giant Internet firms to have a greater say in the future of how consumers access the Web.

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Specifically, Google and Verizon’s agreement could prevent Verizon from offering some prioritization to the biggest bidders who want better delivery of content on its DSL and fiber networks, according to the sources. But that wouldn’t apply to mobile phones, the sources said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the companies have not officially made their announcement.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/posttech/2010/08/google_and_verizon_have_come.html

From top tech blogger John Gruber of Daring Fireball:

'So Verizon and Google agree that net neutrality applies to Verizon’s DSL and fiber networks, where Google and Verizon have no shared interest. But mobile, where Verizon and Google are partners? Verizon can totally fuck over anyone except Android?

Imagine the uproar if Apple and AT&T worked out such a deal.'

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/08/06/google-net-neutrality

[MyNameGoesHere]

1. Eh maybe

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/aug/05/gogle-denies-verizon-deal-net-neutrality

[onehandle]

3. No, this is a new development since then. Now it's a partial killing of net neutrality.

Specifically to benefit Google and Verizon. A foot in the door.

[MyNameGoesHere]

5. I don't see anything new.

I like the Washington Post most of the time, but really wonder if this "tech" blogger didn't pull from the NY Times article a day late.

Her follow up BTW

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/posttech/2010/08/google_ceo_eric_schmidt_said.html

Update: Google denied a report that it agreed with Verizon that companies like it could pay for extra capacity on networks. In a message on Twitter, Google wrote: "@NYTimes is wrong. We've not had any convos with VZN about paying for carriage of our traffic. We remain committed to an open internet."

[flamingdem]

2. Support Net Neutrality: VERY important to sign Al Franken's petition!!!

http://www.alfranken.com/index.php/splash/netneutrality_vid

[county worker]

4. Supposed we decided to not use Verizon?

Could we back them into a corner by boycotting them and Google?