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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 10:15 AM Original message |
If Physical Books Are Dead in Five Years, How Do the Poor Find Books? |
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Wanet (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
1. They tried to close our library in Woodland CA |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 10:21 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. So true |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
3. Reading books is the LAST thing this country wants its growing numbers of poor to do |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
4. my guess is the books won't be any deader than records ... |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 10:36 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. The question is would you trust your 3 year old to use your electronic gadgets. |
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maxsolomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 04:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
76. i just bought a bunch of vinyl records! |
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Nicholas D Wolfwood (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
5. I've been saying for a while that internet access is going to be our next civil rights battle. |
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uncommon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 10:36 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. It will have to be once it is the only way to access information. |
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Peregrine (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
6. Textbook publishers |
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InvisibleTouch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
7. I wouldn't ever want to lose real, physical books. |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 10:44 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Hear, hear! |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 10:44 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. I love electronic books more then physical books in many ways... |
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Phentex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:04 AM Response to Reply #14 |
27. Not to mention lightweight! Saving kids backs and maybe healthcare costs |
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Retrograde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
60. They may not wear out, but |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #7 |
22. +1,000,000 |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #7 |
24. Well I make notes on my ebooks |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #7 |
25. ebook reader can do all that. |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #7 |
44. I'm a total book-hog, and until a few days ago I would've posted exactly |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
10. Libraries can be so much more.... |
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Triana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
11. 'Plutonomy' answer: 'who cares?' |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
13. Why destroy the books? As much as I grieve for a large city library system to become |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Books still only last so long until they wear out... |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #15 |
52. I cry every time when the library is burned in "Fahrenheit 451". |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #52 |
68. I think what has saved books more than anything is going digital.. |
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LeftinOH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
16. Books don't require batteries; they don't break if you drop them; they are |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
17. interesting bio on this guy--the younger brother of the infamous john |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
18. In the future, then this period might become the dark ages... |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:16 AM Response to Reply #18 |
38. I'm all set to rebuild civilization: we have books on mathematics, geology, |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
19. All this reminds me of Bill Hicks... |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 10:59 AM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I have had similar experiences--always carry a book, and read wherever I am, including bars |
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walldude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #23 |
35. I know, I carry a book or magazine wherever I go... a habit I picked up |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:30 AM Response to Reply #35 |
46. +1 |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
20. "there is not such a cradle of democracy upon this earth as the free public library- |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
21. First of all it will take 20-30 years for books to die off. |
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Phentex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. I agree with this. Libraries could have e-readers to loan... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. My local public library already does that |
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Phentex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:07 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Wait! Even poor people? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:50 AM Response to Reply #30 |
50. Yes, even to poor people |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
29. Books don't compare to film. |
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Phentex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:12 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. I LOVE a good paperback at the beach!... |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:18 AM Response to Reply #29 |
39. What reader have you used? a laptop? |
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Spike89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #39 |
54. Exactly right |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 12:36 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Yeah we really are at the Commodore 64 stage. |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 12:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
57. I'm not trying to trash the ereaders. I simply prefer a book. nt |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. I never claimed you were trashing them. |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 12:58 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. yes, I was simply trying to clarify for others that will see my |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 01:12 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. I agree with you on the ipad it (despite the hype) is ill suited for ebooks. |
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spinbaby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:26 AM Response to Reply #29 |
45. The Kindle is very easy on the eyes |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
31. Silly, education is just for the evil "elites", not the regular common folk. |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #31 |
43. Agreed. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
32. Poor people don't need to read. Poor people need to get jobs and go to work. |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
33. In the 1930's radio was the end of books. In the 1950's TV was the end of books. |
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Phentex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:14 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Five years does seem a bit much. Even phonebooks are hanging on... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
36. I am a lover of books. Physical books. |
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Phentex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:18 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. I love them, too. My eyes, however, want a larger font!... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #40 |
51. That's encouraging to hear. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:22 AM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Depending on how much of your collection is "old" some of it can be replaced for free. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:50 AM Response to Reply #42 |
49. I have used project G. at work. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. I have downloaded some classics in the history of US Labor |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
41. Hard-copy books are not going to be "dead" for a very, very long time |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
47. I plow through about 60-70 books a year... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
48. E-books are far, far cheaper than print books. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 01:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
61. And e-books are far, far more study too... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 01:12 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. That's a good point. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 01:15 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. ebooks can be backed up. |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
55. Don't worry. They won't be. |
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Blue Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
65. People say books are bad for the environment |
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RainDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
66. books are not going to go away |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
67. Huge problem with switching to e-books, |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. You can help digitize ANY book in public domain at project gutenberg. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 05:14 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. There are millions of books that need to be digitized, |
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mwooldri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 05:29 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. It's not just the file format that's the problem. |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
69. What will you read at the beach, or in the forest?... |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. None of those are a problem. |
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blueworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
70. And there will always be limitless energy to feed all the kindles etc. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. Text is small and so is energy needs. |
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Old Troop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
71. Reducing library services and hours or closing libraries is a standard |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
72. 5 years from now e-readers will probably be cheaper than most library books |
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GSLevel9 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-09-10 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
78. just curious... |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-10 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
80. Any librarians or administrators here? |
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OneGrassRoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-10 08:16 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Also, please see my post #10 above. Libraries are even more necessary... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-10 08:20 AM Response to Reply #80 |
83. Ask to be a volunteer shelver |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-10 08:17 AM Response to Original message |
82. I don't see why you couldn't check out an e-reader at the library. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-10-10 08:22 AM Response to Reply #82 |
84. As soon as they are about $80, I'm getting one |
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