Fear & Loathing In District Court

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http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/node/38883 (For Video)

David Boies: Tony Perkins appeals to 'fear and prejudice' against gays
By David Monday Aug 09, 2010 9:00am

"He ignored a lot of the social science in his opinion," continued Perkins. "But in Nebraska in 2005 there was a similar ruling by another federal district level judge. It was overturned in the 8th circuit unanimously. So there is certainly not only based upon the social empirical data that's out there but on the legal basis this is a flawed decision. And, as I said, it's far from over."

Boies was cool as he explained Perkins' facts wouldn't hold up in court.

"Well, it's easy to sit around and debate and throw around opinions that appeals to people's fear and prejudice," said Boies. "Site studies that either don't exist or don't say what you say they do. In a court of law you've got to come in and you've got to support those opinions. You've got to stand up under oath and cross-examination."

"What we saw at trial is that it's very easy for the people who want to deprive gays and lesbian citizens of the right to vote to make all sorts of statements and campaign literature or in debates where they can't be cross-examined but when they come into court and they have to support those opinions and they have to defend those opinions under oath and cross-examination, those opinions just melt away."

"And that's what happened here. There simply wasn't any evidence, there weren't any of those studies. There weren't any empirical study. That's just made up. That's junk science. It's easy to say that on television but a witness stand is a lonely place to lie. When you come into court you can't do that. That's what we proved. We put fear and prejudice on trial, and fear and prejudice lost," said Boies.

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1. They reference each other.

The judge dismissed the 'circular' argument made by these self-styled 'experts' that make up 'facts', then quote each other in some sort of daisy chain of bullshit.


It's always funny in a court of law where someone tries to pass off their opinion as 'fact' to a judge.

In my experience, they seem to take a very dim view of it.

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2. When the law is against you, pound the facts

When the facts are against you, pound the law.

When the law and the facts are against you, pound the table.

Yeah, federal judges aren't too impressed by table-pounding. You'd think that instead of trying to re-argue his laughable "case" on the teevee, Tony Perkins would have been better served getting these arguments into the trial record. Boies spelled it out exactly: If you're going into the arena of a court of law, you have to play by those rules of evidence and procedure. The witness stand is indeed a very lonely place to lie.

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3. This a great argument against those who are crying about mob rule

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