The tired meme that "the Republicans would be worse" can be disregarded

[LoZoccolo]

is a shit statement

[ibegurpard]

1. pretty much anything you say can be disregarded

[flvegan]

2. LOL!

:rofl:

[pnwmom]

7. By idiots, yes. n/t

[Bluebear]

19. You're hitching your wagon to THAT star? lol

[pnwmom]

22. As opposed to the other one? Yes. n/t

[jgraz]

28. Yes, even idiots know to ignore this bullshit

Why don't you? :shrug:

[LoZoccolo]

41. You have a very wide definition of "ignore" if it includes

replying to the thread three times

[jgraz]

42. I'm ignoring you right now. I'm not even typing this.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

9. yup

[Electric Monk]

14. Deleted sub-thread, Name removed, FTW

[Bluebear]

18. FTW!

[LoZoccolo]

27. NO U n/t

[Electric Monk]

36. infinity

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOGWbzUM-y8

[Warren Stupidity]

3. Slickerist!

[Jackpine Radical]

4. The fact that anyone needs to resort to "the alternative is worse"

is a sad commentary on the state of affairs. Why can't we have leadership that inspires us with its positive strides rather than one we are exhorted to keep around out of fear of something worse?

[pnwmom]

8. Because this country is made up of a wide spectrum of voters, including only

a small fraction whose beliefs are on the far left.

[girl gone mad]

26. oh, all those wacky far left-ideas that only get majority support...

like a public option, ending too big to fail, bringing troops home..

If only Glenn Beck or Breitbart were on board. Then Democrats would finally have the cover they need to enact that hugely popular far left agenda!!1!


:rofl:

[Skittles]

5. it's not that it is not true

it's that it does not mitigate the fact that DEMOCRATS COULD BE BETTER

[cliffordu]

6. Yep - they could be better.

I could be a better son to my long suffering mother too, but there you go.


Republicans are still worse. Period.

Think of Boner as the house majority leader. OMFG.

[Skittles]

13. it's a sad state of affairs

when we have to be reminded of how much repukes suck to be motivated to vote Democratic - very fucking sad INDEED :thumbsdown:

[AnArmyVeteran]

23. You watch, if Boner becomes speaker, democrats will cave at every opportunity.

And if republicans take the senate, democrats would never threaten to filibuster. Hell, they would vote with republicans to go to war against another country. Every democrat who voted to authorize Bush to go to war should be thrown out of office. They are not fit to lead. Any goddamned fool would have known Bush had planned to go to war against Iraq. And not ONE democrat spoke up and even asked "HOW WAS IRAQ GOING TO ATTACK THE UNITED STATES WITHIN 45 MINUTES IN THE FORM OF A MUSHROOM CLOUD", not one! How stupid are these people?

[Cherchez la Femme]

39. Yeppers

to everything you said :thumbsup:

BTW, TYVM for your service, my father (Navy) & two of my ex's served (Navy & Marines)!
Although I don't hold all soldiers as heroes, my one ex told me stories in Vietnam that I couldn't believe were done by my fellow citizens. :(
Hope that doesn't insult you, it's certainly not mean to -- I'm just sharing.
I know this world comprises all kinds, and that especially in a War Theatre one can't be too judgmental -- War Is Hell, after all...

[AnArmyVeteran]

45. No offense taken at all.

Our military HAS been involved in a lot of atrocities. I'm sure they happen with great frequency. And our soldiers who forced to fight in an unwinbable war must be horror stricken when they realize they have killed little children and babies in Afghanistan. Many are so overcome by guilt they kill themselves. Suicide rates keep rising as the futility of this war lingers on. I couldn't imagine living if I killed a child. But military leaders keep sending our soldiers to do the impossible in a no-win situation.

If we stayed in Afghanistan for another hundred years it would all resort back to the pre-war days as soon as our last soldier left that country. Everything we are doing there is for absolutely nothing, except to profit weapons makers and other war profiteers. I've always wondered why corporations are not forced to 'sacrifice' by not accepting any profits during wartime. Why isn't there a law mandating that NO business should be allowed to profit off of any war? And if they violate that law every executive in that business would be thrown in prison for twenty years if they profited off our war dead.

Thanks for your appreciation for my service to my country. It's strange but it seems our military would be better utilized right here in the US fighting against the real enemies of the American people, like corrupt businesses and corrupt politicians who are nothing but prostitutes to their corporate pimps. We had no threat from Iraq. We had no threat from Afghanistan. Those countries couldn't have attacked the US. It is idiotic to fight a non-conventional enemy with a conventional military. We couldn't win in Vietnam and we won't win in Afghanistan.

We should have used a small covert force and increased our on-the-ground intelligence to fight Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. The way we are fighting that war is reckless and stupid. Imagine a foreign military occupying the US and blowing up entire towns to get one guilty person. Americans would strike back at any occupying force and hate them for killing their families. You don't win the hearts and minds of people by killing their loved ones. I've never heard one person in the media or the government make this analogy. But not one person in the media or government even asked the question, "How could Iraq or Afghanistan even attack the United States?".

There are undoubtedly more members of Al Qaeda in the US than in Afghanistan so does that mean we are going to attack our own cities, or will we do it the right way, as a police action using intelligence, rather than hundreds of thousands of our soldiers killing anyone who might 'look' like a terrorist?

[Cherchez la Femme]

46. Thank you for taking the time to write that great response

I agree with every word! It seems some of our soldiers DO 'win hearts and minds'
and string them on their belt!

In regards to our latest wars of choice, isn't it funny --and I know this has become a meme-- that we're still "friends with" the country who spawned the vast majority of 9-11 hijackers? The same country who is a bloody theocracy and executes it's own citizens (mostly women from what I've seen) using Sharia law?

Furthermore, in addition to corporations not profiting in wartime, I would like to see their children forced to serve
& not like Shrub, but DEEP in the shit
for the duration!

It's always been interesting to me that Bush the First got in then out of his gulf war quickly and (fairly) cleanly
--about the only good thing I'll say about him--
while his one son (and there's another political son waiting in the wings! *shudder*) did... all that he did.

It's also sad that this country isn't even INVESTIGATING, like Britain is, how/why we really got into these wars of foolishness and lies
But but but 'look ahead, not back'
Butt!
If ever I get arrested, esp. for something evil like murder, that's the defense I'm gonna use
this White House set a precedent, didn't they? :puke:

And I'm not even going to get IN to this 'surgical precision' where all killed are Al-Qaeda or "terrorists", the 'embedded journalists' of whom we don't read squat (unless it's puff pieces about big bad soldiers saving Middle East kittens, of the cowardly & very deadly (IMHO) drones and videos of helicopter gunsights, complete with the cheering & comments like 'let's go find (more) target(s)'! :puke: yet again!

*big hugs*

[pnwmom]

10. Yes, they can. And I'm all for pushing our individual representatives and Obama

to be better. But when it comes to voting -- there's no question. I'm not going to throw my vote away. In the general election, I'll vote for the more progressive person, even if s/he's only a bit more progressive than the Rethug.

[Skittles]

15. see #13

[treestar]

44. They are not going to get any better

by constantly carping at them and insulting their supporters. A different tactic? Those who don't walk in lockstep can surely think of one.

[sendero]

11. You know...

.. the Republicans are worse but they used to be a lot worse and now they are only a little worse.

I'm sick of voting for the lesser of two evils. I'm no longer going to encourage the bastards with a vote.

[Fumesucker]

12. "X" is a shit statement..

Is a shit statement.

Recursive shit statements if you will, an infinite progression of ever shittier statements.

[donco6]

25. They are the very definition of flamebait.

Well, for most people, anways.

[Radical Activist]

16. I'm enjoying this series.

I rarely look at who posts something before I click on a headline so I usually get suckered in for a second.

[LoZoccolo]

29. Around the beginning of the year I considered "2009: The Year in Shit Statements".

But around that time I started figuring that I was really close to being tombstoned so I didn't.

[Radical Activist]

17. dupe

derp

[depakid]

20. Some people never learn- it's like they have anti-bodies to acquiring knowledge from experiences

That tired old canard hasn't worked in the past- and it won't work any better in the future- though due to all the dysfunctional pandering to the corporate right and alienation of traditional constituencies- it may be about all the Democrats have in the fall.

And if that's the case, Obama's obsession with bipartisan fantasies will become a reality. Hope he likes what he gets.

[Name removed]

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[Bluebear]

43. thank you

[unkachuck]

24. yawn....

....but if you have a progressive to vote for on the ballot, get your ass out there and vote!

[spoony]

30. These threads are so sad.

Like a starlet who's lost her looks but still tries to drunkenly hit on repair men while waiting for her agent to call. He won't.

[jgraz]

32. I *am* big. It's the *elections* that got small

I'm ready for my close-up, Mr. Emanuel.

[jgraz]

31. There's no way you can disregard it. You have no other argument.

Try not to break a nail hanging on to your last shred of credibility.

[Name removed]

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[ibegurpard]

35. you need a bigger card

[pa28]

38. Just about right.

Administration apologists are venturing deeply into self-parody now. Initially it's worth a laugh or two and then it's just boring.

[donheld]

40. + 1000

[Hekate]

34. Aw you shouldn't have.

You're still rational. :rofl:

[mmonk]

37. .