Japan apologizes again

[Bonobo]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-10922522

Japan has offered another apology to South Korea for its war-time colonisation of the Korean peninsula.

It also promised to return cultural relics "in the near future", including records taken by Japan of an ancient Korean royal dynasty.

The apology, though not the first, is part of Japanese efforts to forge closer ties with South Korea.

Conservative politicians in Japan have resisted admitting Japanese atrocities throughout World War II.

In a statement, the Japanese Prime Minister Naoto Kan expressed "deep remorse" for the annexation, 100 years ago this month.
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As they have many times already, Japan once again apologizes.

And yet the meme continues that they have not done so.

Projection? Yes, I think so. From a country that can't even say that they regret dropping 2 nuclear bombs on a civilian population.

[RandomThoughts]

1. I like Japan, have for a long time, hope to visit there some day.

Not sure why people are concerned with what other generations did, the current generation did not do that.

And I can pretty much show that generational sin can only exist without justice, without free will or without existence, so that concept does not hold if you think people exist or if you think existence should be or is just.


Although it makes sense that if a parent did something wrong, it would reflect badly on their children by how society views them, I think that is more likely the meaning of those comments. People should not hinder their children by doing wrong themselves, since most of society attaches some of that to family members.


Note, That also means it can be proven that generational blessings don't exist by simply having children. It can easily be shown that if a grandchild is blamed for the actions of a grandparent, part of them has to be the same thing, or someone is punished for someone else actions, which is unjust.

And if there is a part that is the same in a person for many generations, then for that to be blamed or punished, it must be responsible, and if responsible it must control someones actions or thoughts. And if something that you don't know is part of a person is actually controlling what they do, then the person is not making any choices, but something they don't even know about would be, so they would not exist.

The only just way for that to have an effect would be for the outcome of a family over many generations to be more important then any individual in that family, even if some of them were innocent, making the justice of existence to have nothing to do with any individual, but only about reaching some goal many generations down the line. Making people irrelevant, or non existant.

So generational sin can not exist if people exist or if existence is just.

[Submariner]

2. Not sure why people are concerned with what other generations did

It was the savagery of the Japanese. Unlike the Nazi's, the Japanese seemed to really enjoy inflicting physical pain and torture. Bayoneting women and babies in public, Nanking, Bataan death march, etc.

Many WWII veterans have a particular hate for the Japanese to this day, until the WWII generation dies off, that will continue.

[DaveinJapan]

11. Unlike the Nazi's????

I totally agree with your entire comment, except for your "unlike the Nazi's" part...plenty of them seemed to really enjoy inflicting physical (AND psychological) pain and torture. They treated the Jews like nothing more than others might treat a household pest infestation, and I find it extraordinarily bizarre that you would equate the Japanese actions (equally abhorrent, certainly!) as somehow "worse".

It was ALL incredibly evil, and YES many thousands did participate wholeheartedly and appeared to thoroughly enjoy their "work".

Just sayin.

[Submariner]

12. POWs: I should have been more specific

The Japanese were far crueler to POWs than the Nazi's were to POWs. American POW testimonials indicate that the Germans were far more humane to Allied POWs, better food, clothing, red cross packages, etc., than the Japanese who starved prisoners and worked them to death.

I won't get into comparing atrocities like Nanking to the concentration camps. I meant only to address POW treatment.

[DaveinJapan]

13. Okay, that I can agree with. nt

[LostinVA]

3. Maybe because their government basically make believes it didn't happen

And don't teach about it in schools, although they do spend a lot of time on Hiroshima and nagasaki? I had a Japanese friend insist to me that the Rape of Nanking didn't happen. They also have steadfastly refused to give reparations to either China or Korea, including to so-called Korean "Comfier Women," aka Rape Slaves. To make it worse, extreme RW Japanese are given lots of media time for telling the side of the Japanese "Holocaust Deniers."

I also like Japan and would like to visit there, too, but this is one area in which Japan has fallen way short of Germany's bar.

[RandomThoughts]

4. Well they should teach history, people should be able to learn from mistakes.

[Bonobo]

9. Actually they do teach about it in schools.

You are misinformed, which is not surprising.

[Enthusiast]

5. On a related note,

perhaps the United States of America should apologize for the genocide they visited on the native inhabitants of North America. Maybe we can't apologize yet because many injustices continue today.

[madrchsod]

6. they have`t apologized to the "comfort women"

http://www.religioustolerance.org/sla_japa.htm

and i doubt they ever will.....

[Hannah Bell]

7. just in 1993 & a couple of times since, + money

Recognizing that the issue known as "comfort women" was a grave affront to the honor and dignity of a large number of women, the Government of Japan, together with the people of Japan, seriously discussed what could be done for expressing their sincere apologies and remorse to the former "comfort women." As a result, the Asian Women's Fund (AWF) was established on July 19, 1995 in order to extend atonement from Japanese people to the former "comfort women."

Having decided to provide necessary assistance for the AWF by a Cabinet decision in August 1995, the Government of Japan, with a view to fulfilling its moral responsibility, had been providing all possible assistance for the AWF, including bearing the total operational costs of the AWF, assisting its fund-raising and providing the necessary funds to implement its activities (approximately 4.8 billion yen from the AWF's founding through fiscal year of 2005), in order for the AWF to attain its goals. The AWF disbanded in March 2007 with the termination of the project in Indonesia.

The Government of Japan had been cooperating with the AWF in implementing the activities. And the atonement projects were completed in the Philippines, the Republic of Korea and Taiwan by the end of September 2002. Some of former comfort women who received atonement projects expressed their gratitude in various ways.

http://www.mofa.go.jp/policy/women/fund/policy.html


3.The Government of Japan recognizes that the issue of "comfort women", with the involvement of Japanese military authorities at that time, was a grave affront to the honor and dignity of large numbers of women, and holds its sincere apology and remorse for all those who underwent immeasurable and painful experiences and suffered incurable physical and psychological wounds as "comfort women". With this recognition, the Government of Japan has expressed its apology and remorse to the former "comfort women" on various occasions and has provided all possible cooperation for the AWF, which is carrying out projects that express national atonement to the former "comfort women".

4.In the Statement of the Prime Minister in 1995, the Government of Japan once again acknowledged with deep remorse and sincere apology, the enormous damage and suffering inflicted by Japan on the people of many countries, including the Netherlands, during a certain period in the past, and such feelings remain unchanged.

http://www.mofa.go.jp/announce/event/2001/7/0713.html


it appears to be some kind of racket, where japan is castigated for refusing to apologize for this or that & money is each time extracted from them.

a few more years go by & the apologies are once again conveniently forgotten.


how many apologies & how much money has the us contributed to slave reparations, tribes, or all the people they've tortured & killed over the last 100 years?

it's good to be king.

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[VMI Dem]

10. Deep remorse?

:rofl:

[apocalypsehow]

14. UnRec. n/t.