So after reading of Gibbs' comments in his interview with the Hill, I gotta ask...

[Erose999]

Who do you all like in the 2012 primary? I'm thinking Dennis Kucinich, or maybe Howard Dean.

http://www.kucinich.us/

[KansasVoter]

1. I love dean. And Frankin. And Grayson.

[saltpoint]

2. I like Barack Obama, and I think his

chances are pretty good.

[moksha]

3. I hope someone from the left runs, just to show the great distance

between real liberals and this centrist administration. They won't win, of course, but I'd still like to see it.

Especially after Gibbs let us in on how they really feel about liberals. Ungrateful assholes.

[zipplewrath]

6. Sorta my thought too

It'd be nice to have a Feingold or someone who could mount a "credible" challenge. Credible in the sense of a true politician, not some Nader type that's never held office or won an election of any sort. No expectation that they'd really win, but would illustrate just how centrist Obama is, and wants to be.

[jefferson_dem]

10. Feingold has his own electoral shit to worry about...this November.

Anyway, I'm not sure his saddling up with the teabagging Repugs in voting for the status quo on Wall Street will sit with the left.

[xiamiam]

15. every move by this administration has shown us how they regard us..gibbs just verified what w

we already know..

[zipplewrath]

19. Yup from before day 1

Rahm
Rick Warren
Geitner
Summers
No place for Dean.

They made it clear what they think of us.

[woo me with science]

22. You know, the Right is relentlessly painting Obama as a socialist.

bent on destroying the bank system and private corporations. The administration may feel it would help him in the general election to appear as the moderate in the Democratic field.

[LaurenG]

4. Unless Obama declines to run again we won't have the choice. nt

[Autumn]

5. I'm thinking Howard Dean

maybe I need to be drug tested but he sounds good to me. Or anyone who likes liberals will do.

[vi5]

7. I'd say Dean....

..when I was not in favor of him in '04 I was still under the idiotic delusion that pragmatism and a more "centrist" approach (please note the quotes around that word because I realize now it's bullshit) was preferred. Well now with 6 years of hindsight I know approach gets us nothing.

And I'm not so unrealistic that I think someone actually pretty far left like Kucinich (who I do think is great) can even stand a chance. But Dean's ideas and views and approach has been vindicated many times over since '04 so I think more people would be willing to give a chance.

[jefferson_dem]

8. Hi, welcome back to DU.

Flamebait Fail. :thumbsdown:

[spiritual_gunfighter]

9. At this point I would love either of those guys

Howard Dean would have a better shot, but I really dont think he would run against Obama in the Primary unless things keep going as bad as they are now, who knows.

We definitely need to start thinking about it I know I am.

[Monique1]

14. Just remember

Dk and HD lost in the past. So, let's just take our votes and give it to the Repukes. The country is not with the lefts, they are in the middle. How true no matter what Obama does is never enough or right. We are going to lose to the Repugs because we listen to the Repuke talking points.

I am a progressive but geez, come on will nothing make us happy?

I say let us all vote loud mouth Sarah Palin for President so we can gripe more after 2012.:grr:

[spiritual_gunfighter]

17. Sorry

I am done listening to the same excuses from fellow liberals. In your short post you 5 or 6 of the same excuses I hear from liberals all the time.

I am done supporting candidates who dont support me, period.

I will no longer give my money or time to campaigns that insult me, and could care less about me.

And I am done listening to liberals excuse that kind of behavior from candidates that we support with our time and money and vote.

Sorry I am done.

[BonnieJW]

20. Grayson

He is in the lead in his repub district in Florida among dems. He is also in the lead among repubs. He found the secret of saying exactly what he means and too bad if you disagree. If it's right he stands by it; if it's wrong he condemns it. He doesn't think how it's going to play in Peoria before he takes his stand. He has his own fortune so he can't be bought.

[Schema Thing]

11. I think Howard Dean would agree with Gibbs.

People who can't appreciate the positive difference between Barack Obama and George W Bush are batshit crazy.

[Erose999]

12. Anthone Wiener, maybe?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcay-8JlIfU

It would be worth it just for the autotune remixes of his campaign speeches.

[xiamiam]

13. grayson..nt

[Freddie Stubbs]

16. A Kucinich campaign would be a comedy goldmine for Stewart, Colbert, Leno, and Letterman

[MineralMan]

18. Obama will run and be elected in 2012.

[Erose999]

23. Maybe, but I think he needs a primary challenger to push him left.

I don't want Obama, Gibbs, Rahmmy, et. al. to automatically assume that they are "entitled" to my support just because they happen to be currently in power and choose to call themselves "Democrats". I am prepared to vote against them if they continue to cave to the demands of the RW fringe.

I've supported them Obama through a shitstorm of criticism from my RW family member and acquaintences, and for them to basically tell progressives that our effort means fuck-all to them is just downright douchebaggery.

They are gonna have to seriously work at progressive policy if they want my continued support. One way to make them work is to challenge them with a more progressive primary opponent.

[jaxx]

25. I don't think anyone is going to push the President anywhere.

He is exactly what he campaigned as, no surprises there. The idea that he can be coerced into something is just wrong. What a shame this has become about hidden agendas instead of looking at all that has been accomplished.

[Erose999]

27. He campaigned on public option healthcare, closing GITMO, ending the wars

He has delivered some of what he has promised in the past 18 months or so, but he has failed to deliver on some of the defining issues of his campaign. Thats not saying that I was naive enough to believe he would deliver everything exactly as promised on a silver platter, but he should at least have made more of an effort toward progressive reforms, particularly things like closing GITMO and the secret prisons that can be done by executive order.

[jaxx]

31. No money from the congress.

Remember they cut it out for Gitmo closing. The secret prisons....I don't think they are being used now. Iraq is ending, Afghanistan has this last chance to succeed, and then we leave. Again remember bush saying there would be no pull out on his watch. He left the mess.

[Erose999]

34. I don't see how they need money to close Gitmo. Usually things close when they DON'T have money.

[jaxx]

36. Costs money to relocate the prisoners for one thing.

[LoZoccolo]

21. Kucinich won't do it; he's one of us now, a woodchuck!

Hooray for Dennis and his new brand of sensible liberalism.

[SargeUNN]

24. Why Dennis Kucinich can't be President

I like Dennis and have interviewed him a few times, but I have to be real about it. Dennis would be hard to elect because he is viewed as radical and the right would be even more hard to deal with than they are now. The right painted Obama as very liberal and even many of us bought it even when our own radio voices were telling Obama was more of centralist with some left views, but look now at all saying Obama isn't the liberal we thought he was, well, I knew and stated on air many times he was NOT a liberal. When I see those upset because he isn't the liberal they thought, I think that is the power of the right, they can sell even us their crap and then we wonder why it isn't true.

Dennis would be so easy for them to attack and he would fight against them to where nothing would pass. We wouldn't have gotten anything through in Healthcare at all because Dennis would have been too easy a target. Sorry but that is the fact of our nation these days.

[Pisces]

26. I like Barrack Hussein Obama. What a stupid question.

[jaxx]

32. I like him too and will vote for him again.

[Erose999]

28. A primary challenger doesn't have to win, just be a threat that will pull BO back to the left.

I would still vote for Barack "hopey-changey" Obama over someone like Sarah "quitty-jobby" Palin. But that does not mean I just give Obama carte blanche. I want him to WORK for my vote and be accountable for his progress. Since when is that a bad thing?

[Javaman]

29. Dennis was always my first choice. nt

[LostinVA]

30. The Doctor

[Catherina]

33. Ill take the both of them for $100. n/t

[closeupready]

35. Either would be better, IMO. I'd lean slightly more toward Dean.

n/t

[Vinca]

37. After reading the Gibbs' remarks, I'm up for a primary challenger.

[Erose999]

38. Win or lose a primary challenger would at least be appreciative of their supporters efforts, lol

more than we can say for the Obama camp. I say "camp" because I'm not sure if the remarks are Obama's or Gibbs'. Gibbs might have just shot his mouth off. Or the statement may have originated from Obama himself. Either way I expect and answer and an apology from the president.

Maybe even one of those "beer summits".