Pew: Obama's approval among liberal Democrats is 90%

[ProSense]

Republicans Faring Better with Men, Whites, Independents and Seniors

[Beetwasher]

1. No It's Not!!! Some Guy On DU Says His Base Is Abandoning Him!!!

What to believe!! Gahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!

[LoZoccolo]

6. Everybody knows that his base is less than 10% (non-approvers) of 20% (liberals) of voters.

The 2% base is PISSED! This will really make the people who already think that Obama is just like Bush* not vote for him! If this continues, they are again going to say that they are not going to vote for Obama!

[Winterblues]

22. Obama's approval has dropped from over eighty percent to under fifty percent

Do you think it is because Republicans abandoned him?

[4lbs]

31. It seems more like the Republican-leaning Independents did.

He's still sky-high among Democrats in general, and umm.... 90% among liberals.

The Repukes always hated him, so no real change there.

The Democrats still have a very high regard for him.

It's among the Independents where he's dropped.

Guess what? Independents aren't usually Democrats (or else they'd be registered as such), and tend to be moderates, centrists. They definitely aren't left/liberal/progressives.

[Winterblues]

53. Guess what...I am an Independent and there aren't many more Liberal

I had much higher expectations. I expected more honesty than we got. I actually believed Obama when he said there would be "No more Supplemental War Spending Bills" I believed him when he said "Beginning on Day One"..."One Brigade a Month"..I am not so Naive as to believe politicians don't LIE but I didn't really expect such blatant LIES right from the get go.. I will probably vote for him because as everyone is so quick to say, who else would I vote for.. However I am an extremely disappointed Liberal, and my disappointment is almost entirely with Obama. Democrats as a whole have done remarkable things.

[4lbs]

58. He kept the promise on one brigade a month.

When he was inaugurated, January 20, 2009, there were 140,000 troops in Iraq.

Now there are at most 50,000. That means there are 90,000 fewer troops in Iraq.

18 months later here we are, with 50,000 troops, or 90,000 fewer than when he took office.

What's one brigade? About 5000 soldiers at the maximum.

Multiply 18 by 5000 and you get... 90,000.

He kept the "Brigade a month coming home from Iraq" promise.

Those 50,000 that are there will be gone by the end of 2011. So, on January 1, 2012, there won't be any U.S. troops in Iraq at all.

[Beetwasher]

34. It Wasn't His Liberal Base Either

Provide the evidence. The evidence in the OP is clear. Where's yours?

[Forkboy]

2. Well there you go. No worries then!

:thumbsup:

[NJmaverick]

10. Are you suggesting that over the top, destructive and unfair criticism

doesn't have a negative impact on elections, if it comes from the 10%?

[Forkboy]

17. LOL...framing that Ari would be proud of.

[NJmaverick]

30. You didn't answer the question

[Forkboy]

33. That's what Ari would say.

[Arkana]

40. Ah, ah, ah...you don't get to pull the "HURR ARI FLEISCHER" card

and then run.

Why is it "framing Ari would be proud of"? Are you contesting the poll's data? Are you somehow trying to convince us that 10% screaming enough disinformation cannot influence an election? You don't get to hit and run.

[Forkboy]

47. If it walks and talks like a duck.

What's your concern? It's not like the Left matters, right?

Are you somehow trying to convince us that 10% screaming enough disinformation cannot influence an election?

Is an end to war and wiretapping really disinformation?

And anyways, what's the harm? What can that 10% do?

[Winterblues]

23. "Beginning on Day One"..."One Brigade a Month"

"Never be another War Supplemental Spending Bill" Over the top indeed..

[NJmaverick]

35. False talking point, since Gibbs gave a prime example of the over the top

criticism "President Obama is just like Bush"

[NJmaverick]

3. Thanks for reminding people of the facts!

[NC_Nurse]

4. I still like Obama, but Gibbs is on my shit list.

There are several people I'd like to see Obama give the boot. Starting with Summers, Gibbs, Salazar, etc.

[EFerrari]

5. Pollster.com 77%.

http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/jobapproval-obama-dems.php

I'd like to see the number for 18-25 today. Or maybe I wouldn't.

[LoZoccolo]

8. Yes, the total Democratic number is less because conservatives and moderates approve of him less.

Nice try though.

P.S. They say that in the two polls we're quoting as well.

[PBS Poll-435]

7. Easy K & R

Thanks!


:D

[Touchdown]

9. Then the DU war this morning was all for naught.

:patriot:

[Scurrilous]

21. Bingo!!1!

:thumbsup:

[Junkdrawer]

11. There seems to be a whole lot of effort to convince that 10%.....

that they're in a tiny minority and that if the Democrats lose the election it's all their fault.

But how can that be if they're only 10%? :shrug:

[Sapphocrat]

19. You now understand the Gay Rule.

As I just (and I mean mere moments ago) posted elsewhere:

LGBTs are too small a minority to worry about, either -- until the Dems lose, and then it's all our fault.

But it certainly is funny, all that energy expended to make us conform to whatever the meme of the day may be. Why bother with us, when we don't count?

It's a neverending parallax view.

[NJmaverick]

51. Maybe by using cyberspace to launch destructive, over the top and unfair criticism?

:shrug:

[TheKentuckian]

12. Keep clapping but you need those votes

[ProSense]

14. Yeah, the Democratic Party is all about me?

If Republicans win, I'm the only one who suffers.

[TheKentuckian]

57. Tell that to "pragmatists", sister.

[frylock]

13. then you guys don't need the professional leftists..

good luck in your endeavors.

[ProSense]

15. Those who truly don't see a difference between President Obama and Bush

likely never supported him in the first place.

Still, he's never going to get every Democratic vote. Heck, McCain got 10 percent of the Democratic vote.

[frylock]

54. he was second to last on my list..

but still, i contributed money, bought swag, and cast a vote for him. sorry if i didn't suck enough ass to pass muster.

[girl gone mad]

16. Looks like a pretty small sample.

I wouldn't cling too hard to this poll.

[Scurrilous]

18. Thanks.

K & R :thumbsup:

[NMMNG]

20. Keep telling yourself that

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

24. If the left only represents 10% why send Gibbs to attack them?

Just for the hell of it?

[Junkdrawer]

27. 10% of Democrats...5% of the electorate....

Hardly worth bothering about. I mean, hell, they say that 25% of the country thinks that Obama's birth certificate is fake.

Yep, 5 Teabaggers for every one of us... :eyes:

[Radical Activist]

39. The left is more than 10%.

Please don't lump all of us on the left with the "Obama is just as bad as Bush" crowd. Most of us would like liberalism to have a little credibility.

[alsame]

25. So the lectures and warnings about President Palin will stop now? nt

[Odin2005]

26. The US has gone so far to the Right that such labels are meaningless.

Most people attach to such labels out of habit and team feeling, not because of actual policy positions, anyway.

Also, because of our 2-party system most people think "liberal" and "conservative" are synonyms for the party labels.

Any way you look at it such polls are inherently crap for all those reasons.

[NJmaverick]

38. It's the best objective measure

superior to any individual or group arbitrarily assigning people the labels.

[damntexdem]

28. Therefore, the strongest part of the base must be attacked.

Can't leave that to the GOP, after all.

[NJmaverick]

37. The 10% is the strongest, rather many of that group is engaging

in destructive and unfair criticism that is helping the GOP

[Arkana]

46. You guys are hardly the strongest.

You threw the guy over the edge on day one because he didn't immediately end the wars via executive order OR swim out to Guantanamo Bay and have the prisoners all transferred to the White House.

You know what? Gibbs' remarks were ill-advised, but I don't think he'd have said it if the White House wasn't so goddamn frustrated. They expect unfounded accusations and criticism from the right. But when you hear "CAT FOOD COMMISSION" too many times from some asshole on TV or the internet who doesn't know how to do research, it kinda gets to you.

[TBF]

29. I'm thinking that was taken before Gibbs opened his mouth... nt

[VMI Dem]

32. Given some of the people I have seen claim they are liberals, not surprised.

Good luck with that in the election though.

[NJmaverick]

36. Well with the Professional Left engaging in over the top and destructive criticsim

it's going to be tough

[EFerrari]

43. So you are claiming that 10% has super powers?

That doesn't even make sense.

Good grief.

[NJmaverick]

44. Nope they don't have super powers, they simply have the power

that any group has if they put in the effort to smear (which is always easier).

[EFerrari]

48. That doesn't make sense either.

The left didn't write Gibb's self destructive script this morning.

They really don't need any help in tanking the election. All they need to do is keep insulting Democratic voters to the press. Piece of cake.

[NJmaverick]

49. Destructive would better describe the criticism flowing from the "professional left"

considering how over the top, often untrue and usually unfair nature of it, Gibbs had little choice but to call them on it. If he didn't say something the GOP would ride that criticism to victory in November.

[EFerrari]

52. Oh, yeah. White House officials have no choice

but to slur Democratic voters in public. It's not like they're in power or anything.

LOL

[NJmaverick]

55. I suspect many on the "professional left" are not Democratic voters

so why are you using that term?

[Arkana]

42. Helps when the paid-for left decides that raking in the cash and lobbing Molotov cocktails

into the White House is a more constructive path than putting pressure on Congress, WHERE IT FUCKING BELONGS.

[asdjrocky]

41. 10%er checking in! nt

[apocalypsehow]

45. Kick, Rec. n/t.

[flamingdem]

50. I approve of his approval nt

[Curmudgeoness]

56. If I were polled (which, eh hum, I never have been), I would say I approved.

Even if I didn't approve of everything he has done. But I damned sure would not let the Republicans know it, and use that to try to destroy everything.

[Scurrilous]

59. Kick

:kick: