Given the publicly expressed opinions of Gibbs & Rahm on liberals,

[Jackpine Radical]

do you ever wonder what they say about us in private?

[geek tragedy]

1. They do not smear all liberals.

They never have.

Certain liberals--like Ed Schultz--I'm sure they have plenty of negative stuff to say.

[mod mom]

3. and don't forget Howard Dean.

Obama would do the party a favor by ridding it of those two scumbags.

[Jackpine Radical]

6. Yes, exactly.

And Dean.

[LooseWilly]

42. And he should get rid of Grayson and Weiner while he's at it!

And the whole fucking Progressive Caucus of the House too— who the fuck do those assholes think they are, anyway?

[bvar22]

56. They've already started to work getting rid of the Progressive Caucus.

I find it revealing that lightweight crooks like Rangel are targeted, and an outspoken Liberal like Waters who may or may not have an ethics violation are put in the Hotseat when there are so many Ultra corrupt crooks available in the DLC.

Evan Bayh's family and Linclon Blanche get millions from the Health Insurance Industry,
and DiFis family directly benefits from Armaments procurement...by MILLIONS.

[Jackpine Radical]

4. How interesting--

You seem privy to their behind-closed-doors discussion.

[geek tragedy]

10. I was just pointing out that (a) neither one of them

has referred to liberals as a group in pejorative terms and (b) Gibbs has indicated that "professional liberal" was a reference to cable television pundits.

[whathehell]

16. Yes...I guess he never deduced that those cable pundits reflect

the views of their largely DEMOCRATIC audience!

What a bunch of obtuse losers!

[geek tragedy]

23. cable pundits reflect their viewers, or do viewers

follow pundits like sheeple?

[whathehell]

27. You first......I stated my view.

It seems you view the audience for people like KO and RM as "sheeple'?.

[geek tragedy]

28. Undoubtedly every celebrity has their worshipful fans

Whether they be politicians or news anchors

[whathehell]

34. So you consider Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow mere "celebrities" ?

that are "worshipped" by their "fans"?


I'd say your just a tad out of touch:eyes:

[nashville_brook]

19. funny, i've never heard that used in punditry.

[Luminous Animal]

52. What cable pundits? The only example that he brought up was a right wing cable pundit.

[tnlefty]

21. Not the evil Ed Schultz, who is less liberal than I, but who:

supported the Pres. in the primaries

pushed for single payer, then the public option, then tried to get on board with the lack of either and took a lot of heat from his callers for that

stands up for working class Americans

praised the Pres. on his supposed $20 billion until Mike Pappantonio and others told him that the funds aren't really there and that Feinberg is actually on BP's payroll

the guy who just today stated that he isn't buying the administrations talk that it's okay to eat seafood from the Gulf, nor the happy talk about the Gulf, (Bob Cavnar isn't buying it either, so I guess he's on the WH shit list)

I think I'll stand with these guys and many others.

ETA: I forgot pushing for the 99ers to get unemployment benefits...still more inclined to stand with these positions.

[geek tragedy]

25. Ed Schultz on balance is okay, but he's a real numbnutz sometimes. nt

[tnlefty]

29. So nothing about what he says or covers...

just calling him a name. Okay.

[Donnachaidh]

33. Numbnutz? What an intelligent response.

Kind of like saying your base is drug-addicted or retarded.

Rahm -- your wife called... :eyes:

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[defendandprotect]

41. Ed Schultz has been terrific in speaking for progressive agenda, while Obama is

attacking Social Security/Medicare and public education!!!

Every Democrat should make sure they reset their BS meters much higher after this !!

[Donnachaidh]

32. just the ones who won't play *their* way.

Bullies -- hypocritical bullies.

:eyes:

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[sabrina 1]

54. Robert Gibbs is a scum. I just learned about what he did

to Howard Dean in 2004 and I now never again want to hear any Party Loyalist tell me that it is NOT okay to say bad things about Democrats, ever again, until they completely disown this treachorous cowardly dirty trickster.

He very well may have helped Bush win in 2004, he certainly contributed.

If you do not know what I am talking about go read madfloridian's OP on the Rec. list right now, or check out her journal under 'Political muggings'.

'do not smear all liberals'! No, only the best ones. And they don't just smear them, they DESTROY them!

I am sickened by these people. To think what was going on back then, how we thought the entire party was unified against Bush. And here we have someone like this, this Gibbs character, running ads claiming that Bush was better than Dean on National Security, and hiding like the slimeball he is until he was forced to have to admit it.

Omg, every time I think of it, AT THAT CRITICAL TIME to have a snake-in-the-grass in our own party while we were trying to fend off the rabid right, and Gibbs was HELPING THEM.

Dean could have beaten Bush ... but not when his own party was smearing and lying about him with their shadowy groups, too cowardly to come out into the light and challenge like men.

Stop defending this scum, he doesn't belong in this party, let alone in a Democratic WH. Her makes me sick.

Go Dean! He would have never stooped to that level.

I used to be puzzled by this WH's vitriol against the base, but now it's all clear ...

[TBF]

2. Well I tried to rec this but it looks like the unrec'ers got here first -

I'm sure Gibbs was just repeating what he says every morning with his buds. Not only "inartful" but "fucking retarded" of him to repeat it outside of the white house.

[Ken Burch]

14. If he repeats that EVERY morning, he needs to smoke some "bud"

When you talk like that, you ain't doin' nearly enough chillaxin'.

[Missy Vixen]

5. The publicly stated comments are enough, aren't they?

It's interesting to note the contempt. Why are they worried about our votes if we are so small in numbers, and marginalized?

[Odin2005]

7. I will not vote for a president whose CoS calls me "fucking retarded" and whose...

press sec. says I'm on drugs.

[geek tragedy]

11. Rahm didn't call you 'fucking retarded' and Gibbs

didn't say you were on drugs.

Read more carefully.

[defendandprotect]

44. Unfortunately -- Rahm did call liberals "fucking retarded" ....

Search ResultsRahm Emanuel: Liberals Are "F–king Retarded" | FDL Action
From the Wall Street Journal: "F—ing retarded," Mr. Emanuel scolded the group, according to several participants. He warned them not to alienate lawmakers ...
fdlaction.firedoglake.com/2010/01/26/... - 233k - Cached


http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AjQvJ_wcL8v5mH01QwQeTc2bvZx4?p=Rahm+emmanuel+comment+re+%22fucking+retarded%22+liberals+--&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=fp-yie8


Called the liberal strategy "fucking retarded" --

and apologized for it --

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AjQvJ_wcL8v5mH01QwQeTc2bvZx4?p=Rahm+emmanuel+comment+re+%22fucking+retarded%22+liberals+--&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=fp-yie8


Presume tomorrow you'll be telling us that Gibss didn't say what he actually did say???!!!

[CakeGrrl]

26. So you admit to believing that Obama is no better than Bush

...because those who believe that and who believe the President has done nothing are the ones he singled out.

And Rahm Emanuel was referring to a policy, not a collective group of people and not you personally.

And while we're at it Al Gore did NOT invent the internet.

Spreading misinformation isn't impressive no matter whose party is doing it.

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[Political Tiger]

8. You seem to be under the impression that you are representative of liberals.

You're not. Most liberals approve of the President and are not obsessed with Gibbs & Rahm.

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[lolly]

13. Really?

How do you know? Or are you under the impression that you are representative of all liberals?

I don't know any who aren't disappointed.

[Political Tiger]

17. "I don't know any who aren't disappointed."

Then you don't know many.

[LooseWilly]

47. Because you obviously "know them all", and are the official judge?

Or, maybe it is just that you don't know many?

[defendandprotect]

49. We do know that the DLC wants liberals/progressives to STFU ....that's clear...

and DLC here have worked to try to do the same at DU!

That's how we do KNOW how widespread this liberal/progressive opinion of this

president is -- way beyond DU ---

We've got something worse than Carter on our hands -- and we need a real liberal

Democratic candidate in 2012 -- !!

[LooseWilly]

51. Uhh... Ok- I agree 100 percent.

I'm growing increasingly suspicious of the term liberal though. It's been co-opted and re-defined a couple of times too many, methinks. Left makes me feel comfortable and ready to fight...

[defendandprotect]

48. +1000% --

[Jackpine Radical]

18. Sure. And I might answer a pollster by saying I support Obama.

In fact, I do support much of what he campaigned on and many of the things he has done, and I know that if I say I oppose him it will be taken as opposition from the right rather than from the left.

[EFerrari]

9. No kidding. But then, I don't really want to know.

I already went through the adolescent foul mouthed, bad boundaries of my two boys. Once really is enough.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

15. I don't reallly care about Gibbs and the 'Man

what I want is a huge majority in Congress of left leaning Democrats so I can get my single payer healthcare. We have to do this or else we can wave goodbye to everything we have fought for.

[bvar22]

57. Thats my problem.

I am being asked to vote FOR people who virulently OPPOSE even the Public Option, much less Medicare for ALL.

How do we get closer to Universal HealthCare by voting FOR people who OPPOSE it?

I used to ridicule without mercy Middle Class Working Americans who voted AGAINST their own Economic Interests by voting FOR Republicans.

Now, the Democrats are asking me to vote against my own Economic Interests.:shrug:

[Poboy]

20. My ears are singed. -nt

[glitch]

22. Fucking retreads.

I say we work to give them a truly liberal congress that really twists their knickers.

[LWolf]

24. Ouch.

[Cleita]

30. Considering how Congress treated the PNHP doctors when

they wanted a seat at the table during the health care debate, and the White House did nothing about it, I got a pretty good idea about what they think of us. Seventy percent of us wanted a single payer public option on the table, which the doctors were prepared to debate up there equally with the corporate insurance and pharmacy companies. So the doctors were shut out and then arrested when they insisted on being heard. So seventy percent of us were told that they didn't give a shit what we wanted. If that seventy percent also translates into votes Obama and Congress received, I don't think the administration and Congress gets who got them into office. Many of that seventy percent will probably stay home in November and not vote and many might vote for a third party. The outcome in either case will not be good.

[tnlefty]

35. Why, yes, I do believe that Baucus had them arrested, as Graslsey

was whispering in his ear, and nary a peep from the WH about how they were treated. Single payer advocates, be they Dr.s or RN.s opinions not welcomed at all.

No discussion, no nothing, just no debate and arrests. Remember that Gibbs and crew.

Oh, wait, Dianne Watson, is facing the possibility of jail time for her actions during the hearings with BP CEO Tony Haywood. I say wood. cause I think he has a wooden head. Oh yeah, BP, what you thought would be a great PR move to replace the 'foreigner' with the 'good ole' boys who grew up on the Gulf Coast, isn't really working for me. I can despise Dudley, Suttles and the shits that appear on my TV screen even more...

So stop wasting your money on ads and get busy really cleaning up the Gulf.

Oh my, rant off.

[Poboy]

36. Good rant. -nt

[defendandprotect]

50. It was 76%+ of us and rising for single payer .... we were told corporate leverage on Dems

was stronger and more appreciated that public pressure!!

They KNOW who put them in office -- and they're trying to split the left --

and certainly trying to get liberals/progressives to STFU --

look at what's going on here at DU based on DLC pressure for "New Rules" --

And they're certainly trying to make Schultz and other liberal talk show hosts

less effective!!

All the better to do their dirty work behind the "Chess Game" -- little things like

destroying Social Security and Medicare with a majority Republican Panel!!

And other little things like destroying public education -- teachers -- and their union!!

Cheers for Obama and Arne Duncan -- ???

No -- it's disgusting!!

[amborin]

31. the fact they have no fear about saying it publicly shows their contempt and insulation

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

37. I think that they probably say you're paranoid...

with a delusional sense of your own importance to think that the White House gives two shits about what people post anoymously on the internet.

Just supposing...

[Lorien]

38. I don't need to wonder. Their actions speak for them. nt

[Forkboy]

43. At this point it's probably no worse than what I think of them.

What they're saying is probably a step up from what I feel about them.

[TheKentuckian]

45. I don't really have many further questions at this time, your Honor

[FrenchieCat]

53. Oooh I know! Let's speculate!

that's will be so much fun!

[Capitalocracy]

55. Retarded drug addicts? What more is left to say?

I'll proudly call him an assclown in public.