Why do you think Robert Gibbs was talking about you?

[LoZoccolo]

[madinmaryland]

1. This is obvious...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_OgMt12dj1aI/SalJ6ihMvyI/AAAAAAAAAfU/a8m0y97vMek/s400/bee+gees+GD5791397.jpg

[Canuckistanian]

2. I stand with ALL Liberals, professional or amateur n/t

[LoZoccolo]

4. Both the 85% that approve of Obama, and the ones who thinks he's just like Bush*? n/t

[Canuckistanian]

8. Hmm, good question

Are there no other choices?

[LoZoccolo]

10. You did say "all". n/t

[Canuckistanian]

31. You did mean "Liberals", didn't you? n/t

[Forkboy]

9. You're so fun when you puff out your chest!

Squeeeee!

[Kalun D]

47. BS

open up GD and look at the recs

all the posts bashing Gibbs are getting big recs, some in the hundreds

all the posts defending him are at zero

better wake up and smell the coffee before it's too late

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

50. False dichotomy.

But you know that already.

[LoZoccolo]

52. Which part is untrue?

1. That 85% of self-identified liberals approve of Obama?
2. That Robert Gibbs called out people who equate Obama with Bush*?

Or are you proposing that there is some percent of overlap and that some of the self-indentified liberals who approve of Obama, also think that he is just like Bush*? Is that why it is a false dichotomy?

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

54. What about not approving and also not thinking he's = Bush?

Of all people who criticize Obama, only an exceedingly tiny minority says he's the same as Bush.

And, of course, exceedingly tiny minorities are very popular strawman-building material.

[LoZoccolo]

61. If it's a tiny minority and/or a strawman, why do you think he is talking about you? n/t

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

62. I never said I think such a thing. -nt

[spiritual_gunfighter]

3. Thank you LoZoccolo for throwing salt on the wound that is Democratic Underground.

[CakeGrrl]

22. Why is this salt in the wound?

For all the talk about "fighting" for what's right for people, being "wounded" by a simple question doesn't fit with the righteous warrior theme.

And the OP has a point - Gibbs WASN'T referring to the average DU progressive. But that detail is lost in the outrage sweeping the bunker.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

33. Why are you picking a fight with me

What did I do to you I dont even know you. Why is DU constantly on the attack?

[CakeGrrl]

36. Does it have to be a fight? I think this is symptomatic of what

Gibbs was getting at.

It's to the point where there's so much keying up that being questioned is now to be "attacked". There's no real room for much actual discussion.

Why is the OP's post a call to arms? Why is it so offensive to even ASK if Gibbs was referring to people on DU? Reading what was actually said, I don't think he was.

[Kalun D]

42. Look at his recs, his point is invalid

Gibbs was talking to the left.

There's only a 1/2 dozen true "professional left" he could have called them on the phone

and he's bashing "the left" even if he's just addressing those few because those are leaders that we look up to

this is not surprising. The White House is nowhere near left, they are corporate to the bone.

so go ahead and keep screwing us over, we will only take so much

[lonestarnot]

5. Because I'm a fucking commie.

:P

[Individualist]

6. ...is a shit question. Unrec.

[lonestarnot]

7. And I will call you with one rec. hmmmmf.

[Forkboy]

11. The funniest part of all is knowing that you get the same ration.

The difference being that you like it.

[LoZoccolo]

12. I think I know, I mean, ah yes, but it's all wrong. n/t

[Forkboy]

15. One of your more cogent replies.....

[LoZoccolo]

18. It's from a song by Oasis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-4e1Rhv7-Y

[Forkboy]

19. No doubt.

[LoZoccolo]

20. That's a different band. n/t

[Forkboy]

26. You probably like them all the same anyways.

[LooseWilly]

58. Strawberry Fields Forever— An Oasis song?? Are you 12?

I had no idea there were people who wouldn't know that that was a Beatles song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A4r2RU1u3g

The video is even better... and they recorded the fucking song and video in 1967.

Next thing I know... the Know-It-Alls will tell me about the Red Hot Chili Pepper song Superstition: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XaN0V9es5w

And they'll have no friggin' clue that it's a Stevie Wonder song, done better by Stevie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDZFf0pm0SE (Waaay Waaaaaay Waaaaaay better)

I can only infer the implications of the lack of depth of knowledge you have here displayed.

[Bluebear]

63. thank you!

[Cleita]

13. Wanting the Canadian health care system...

wanting to do something about the Pentagon.

I dunno about anyone else but he speak to me.

I not angry with him but grateful for his honesty.

Now...I go sharpen pitchfork and go find tar for torch.

[Tobin S.]

Yep, I wish all politicians would speak so frankly.

[DJ13]

14. I hope so

I would hate to think I pee'ed in a cup for no reason.

[TheKentuckian]

17. Zing zow zing

[Kalun D]

16. HEY ROBERT GIBBS

FU*K YOU, you lawyer weasle-speaking as*hole.

UNRECOMMENDED

[Warren Stupidity]

21. you forgot: "is a shit statement".

[AsahinaKimi]

23. Well

HE SEEMED TO BE LOOKING AT ME FROM THE TV!!

:crazy:

[Radical Activist]

24. Let me give that some thought...

[jtuck004]

28. LOL n/t

[PassingFair]

25. Because I support the "professional" Progressive Caucus in Congress.

I support progressive policies and politicians.

THAT'S why.

[gratuitous]

27. Call it a hunch

But he was definitely using the same code words and dog whistles I'm accustomed to hearing from my friends on the reactionary right. Oh, it was gussied up a smidgen, but the plain meaning of his words was there. He was taking dead aim at the folks who wanted a single payer health care system, which his administration bargained away before they ever sat down for the first negotiation. He was making an obvious caricature of folks who think we should spend a little more on butter and a little less on guns. Seriously, is there anyone making a case for eliminating the Pentagon? If there is, why didn't Gibbs name that person? Instead, he was disguising the administration's own ineptitude in making the case for trimming defense with a straw man about eliminating the Pentagon. "That's not reality," says Mr. Gibbs. The one true thing he said: He's making arguments against positions that aren't being advanced in what the rest of us would call reality.

Like I said, I'm pretty accustomed to this kind of nonsense out of the likes of Fox, CNN, and MSNBC. The couch it in slightly different terms, but it all boils down to hippie punching. And now we get to see the spectacle of the loyal legions telling us to sit down like good little boys and girls. Gibbs didn't really say what he said: He was talking about "professional" leftists! What are there, like three in the entire nation? He couldn't just call them?

No, he was talking directly to me and others dissatisfied with the chasm between the Obama administration's brave words and wimpy deeds. Instead of showing leadership, and rallying public opinion (fully 2/3 of the American people supported single payer, which had the added bonus of saving billions of dollars), the administration has turtled on issue after issue, letting the reactionaries set the tone and terms of discussion. And now the President's Press Secretary has the nerve to say we want the impossible.

That is why you fail.

[AndyA]

30. +1,000.

You are absolutely correct! :fistbump:

[Poboy]

32. Good post. -nt

[Forkboy]

34. LOL....it's all about the Brand.

To some, like the OP, that is paramount.

[ibegurpard]

35. THAT is why you fail

I'm now playing your whole post through my head in a Yoda voice.
excellent observations btw.

[Beartracks]

41. And Yoda screwed up his shriveled features...

... even more than was customary, thinking for a moment in the swamp mists that swirled about his head like a halo. "MMmmmm..." he intoned quietly. Then he looked up and gravely offered his thoughts on the Press Secretary's comments.

"Using the same code words and dog whistles to which from my friends on the reactionary right I am accustomed to hearing he was," said the powerful Jedi. "Letting the reactionaries set the tone and terms of discussion, the White House has."

...

LOL We should all post like this. :)


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[LooseWilly]

59. Fail, I will... but try I shall...

mmmm? ;)

[Kalun D]

39. damn good post

+++++++++1000

[XemaSab]

45. Word

n/t

[Desertrose]

48. That's it exactly!

Thank you!!!

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

49. Beautiful smackdown. -nt

[anAustralianobserver]

60. Added to my bookmark folder of DU posts that encapsulate the zeitgeist.

Also, I'm stealing the phrase "*That* is why you fail."

[Bluebear]

66. me too!

[Poll_Blind]

68. +1

So fucking sad but equally true.

PB

[Bluebear]

69. .

[Touchdown]

29. Doesn't matter. He shouldn't have said it at anytime

I'm not a fan of reagan's, but he did say "never criticize another republican." wise words from a stopped clock.

[Catherina]

37. Because I damn well know he wasn't talking about you. n/t

[LAGC]

38. Amen.

OP fail and Unrec.

[Name removed]

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[Kurt_and_Hunter]

43. Because I would like a Canadian-style Health-care system

Asked and answered.

See how easy that was?

[PBS Poll-435]

44. Call your Congressman/woman & your 2 Senators then. nt

[Amonester]

55. And if that doesn't work ? (Like they care...) n/t

[PBS Poll-435]

56. Work to elect a Representative and 2 Senators that represent your views.

The President can't suddenly enact single-payer healthcare.

It takes Congress.

[XemaSab]

46. If one republican, no matter how reactionary, gets attacked

they all rally in support of that person.

Attacking anyone on our left wing--Jesse Jackson, Michael Moore, Keith Olbermann, ANYONE--should elicit the same response from us.

[LoZoccolo]

51. How should we treat people who attack Obama by equating him with Bush*? n/t

[spiritual_gunfighter]

53. Yet another LoZoccolo master plan goes down in flames!!!!

[scheming daemons]

57. Many people are unhappy unless they can lay claim to victimhood...

...so they look for "slights" wherever they can so they can scream "foul!"

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

64. "Because, of course, all slights against people I don't like are by definition fictitious."

Here, I completed the part of your post you won't type.

[EstimatedProphet]

65. Who cares whether he was talking about me or not?

It was a coarse thing to say.

[Matariki]

67. Because I want Canadian-style health-care system.

duh.

[mmonk]

70. How would we know? What or who is the professional left?

The ACLU? KO or Rachel Maddow? Jane Hamsher? The teachers union? The Center For Constitutional Rights? Move on? Dennis Kucinich? Physicians For A National Health Program? Michael Moore? Progressive Democrats of America? Democracy For America? Ed Schultz?

[Zorra]

71. Because I don't believe corporations should control our government in any way. nt