If it is true that forces are acting to divide Democrats,

[Barack2theFuture]

who has been more divisive?

Rahm, gibbs, et al, calling progressives names and dismissing their ideas?

OR

Progressives who take offense at being insulted?

[bigtree]

1. the republican opposition

obviously

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

2. Your statement posits Gibbs' remarks as the start of the divide.

Rather, I'd posit that the start of the divide occurred at the hands of people like Jane Hamsher, who joined up with Grover Norquist to help kill a progressive bill.

[wyldwolf]

5. I'll go further than that...

1930s - progressives who criticized FDR's New Deal
1948 - Progressives who ran against Harry Truman
1960 - Progressives who lobbied from the DNC convention in opposition to JFK's nomination
1968 - Progressives who threatened (and did) sit out the presidential election
1980 - Progressives who worked to convince delegates for Jimmy Carter to change their votes to Ted Kennedy on the convention floor.
2000 - Ralph Nader

Progressives who see no problem hurling all manner of vitriol at other Democrats but get whiny/pouty when it's given back.

Long story short, Progressives who believe they, alone, are the "true Democrats" although they've not participated in the party very long - relatively speaking.

Just a short history lesson. You don't have to like it. But the facts are not in dispute.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

6. I like your version better.

You're absolutely right. These people are useless idiots.

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[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

14. And what, pray tell, would "address the problem" that we're pointing out?

Oh wise one, please enlighten me.

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[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

20. Enjoy!

You'll save me plenty of time too.

[Kweli4Real]

23. No ...

They are useful ... to the opposition and to to masses of the American electorate that can't be bothered to listen to the arguments, but are content to rest on the fact that someone, anyone, is angry.

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[wyldwolf]

10. Progressive want a fight, but they want everyone to lay down and not defend themselves

[Raineyb]

18. Centrists only fight those they consider weaker than they are. They are fucking feckless useless

wankers the whole lot of them.

More useless than bumps on a log.

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[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

15. Here's a novel idea: Attack the right instead of the left. (nt)

[Barack2theFuture]

17. better do it quick though

because they are falling off a cliff w-a-y the hell and gone over there.

[SidDithers]

22. Good post...nt

Sid

[DJ13]

3. Short answer

It all relates to those who belong to, or act like they belong to, the DLC.

They dont appreciate liberals, they would prefer to see our party taken over completely by conservatives.

[LWolf]

4. +1

[Individualist]

13. Correct answer!

:thumbsup:

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

7. ....

[Greyhound]

9. The message control is strong today.

[Barack2theFuture]

11. LOL

:rofl:

aren't they cute?

[rucky]

21. This discussion is divisive, too. n/t

[Barack2theFuture]

24. This isn't a discussion, unfortunately.

It's *my* fault for asking the question.

good.