CNN poll: Majority of Dems. and Independents think Constitution conveys the right to gay marriage

[Bluebear]

Of course, these were just polled Americans, not vaunted "Constitutional scholars". :silly:

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Nearly half of all Americans think the Constitution provides same-sex couples the right to marry, according to a new CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll.

Forty-nine percent of respondents think gay and lesbian couples have the constitutional right to get married and have their marriage recognized by law, while 51 percent say those rights do not exist.

The gap widens dramatically when age is taken into account. Nearly six in ten Americans under the age of 50 say gay rights are protected under the Constitution. Only 38 percent of Americans over the age of 50 say the same thing.

"This is one of the few instances when independents side with one party rather than falling in between the Dems and the GOP," CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said. "56 percent of Democrats and 57 percent of Independents think the Constitution conveys the right to marry to same-sex couples. Only a quarter of all Republicans agree."

http://gay.americablog.com/2010/08/cnn-poll-majority-of-dems-and.html

[amborin]

1. K&R

[slackmaster]

2. They're sadly mistaken. Their misunderstanding reflects the sorry state of the teaching of history.

The Constitution doesn't "convey" or "provide" ANY rights.

It affirms rights.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

3. If you subtract the flowery bullshit, it means the same thing.

:think:

[slackmaster]

5. Here's a link to Cornell's annotated version of the Constitution. Please indulge us,

And show us which parts grant rights to people.

http://topics.law.cornell.edu/constitution

Article I defines the Legislative branch of the federal government.

Article II defines the Presidency and the Executive branch of the federal government.

Article III defines the federal judiciary.

Article IV defines the relationship of the states to the federal government.

Articles V - VII deal with the legal status of the Constitution and the process for amending it.

The articles of the Bill of Rights limit the scope and powers of the government, and enumerate certain rights for special protection. The rights mentioned in the BoR were clearly understood to already exist at the time it was written, and Article IX deals with non-enumerated rights (Executive summary: They exist.)

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

6. I don't need annotation, thanks.

[slackmaster]

7. You're dodging the question, RiF

I think you don't have a good answer for it.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

9. What's the question?

It conveys, provides and affirms.

[slackmaster]

11. Point out the part or parts that convey or provide, as opposed to affirm rights

In particular, the right to marry the person of one's choice.

I've read it many times, and I am not aware of any. The Constitution is silent on marriage, therefore people have the right to marry.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

14. I give up.

You win.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

17. ah...the snark of the uninformed... n/t

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

22. Please feel free to take the last word after this last word.

[NYC Liberal]

12. He's right though.

The Constitution limits the government from infringing on rights that we, as human beings, already have.

It seems unimportant, but it is actually an incredibly important part of the entire philosophy behind the Constitution.

To say the Constitution "grants rights" is to say that those rights can be taken away.

If the Bill of Rights was repealed, we would STILL have freedom of speech, religion, assembly, etc. The government could much more easily infringe on those rights, but we would still have them.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

19. Recognition = Conveyance.

We're splitting butt hairs.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

21. recognition=conveyance??? oh, lord... n/t

[NYC Liberal]

24. No. It's a Huge difference and one of the fundamental

principles behind the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

8. +1

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

10. -1

[ProdigalJunkMail]

15. sorry people don't get it...

but hey, knock if you want...

sP

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

16. I'm sorry, too.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

18. then go learn ... n/t

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

20. Will you teach me?

[ProdigalJunkMail]

23. given your upthread response i would say you are probably

unteachable (in that you have no desire to learn...not that you could not learn if you wanted to). you have your belief...and won't change...despite the fact that two other people have correctly pointed out your error you still act like it is a matter of semantics...

sP

[rocktivity]

4. Don't you mean

"PROFESSIONAL Constitutional Scholars?"

:eyes:
rocktivity

[27inCali]

13. wow, it's right around the corner, isn't it?

those numbers are moving fast.

half the country is on board now....how long can the forces of oppression resist?