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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 02:20 AM
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Vatican still shoveling manure on Irish-Catholic child sex abuse scandal.
What'll it take for this bunch of old men wearing dresses to WAKE UP?

Vatican rejects resignations of 2 Dublin bishops
By SHAWN POGATCHNIK (AP) – 17 hours ago

DUBLIN — Dublin Archbishop Diarmuid Martin has told priests that the Vatican has rejected the resignations of his two auxiliary bishops following their reported involvement in the Catholic Church's cover-up of child abuse.

The Vatican's refusal deals a blow to Martin. He has led Irish Catholic calls for the church to account fully for its concealment of decades of child abuse by priests.

Martin sought the resignations of his Dublin deputies, Eamonn Walsh and Ray Field, after an Irish government-authorized investigation in November criticized them for failing to tell civil authorities about abuse cases in the 1990s. Both initially rejected criticisms, then announced resignations on Christmas Eve.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hG7UpOwvc_tTJz3KkFUHO9AUBnBAD9HHAJSO0
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 02:41 AM
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1. The problem is that Benedict is more concerned with preserving the power of the Magesterium
Edited on Thu Aug-12-10 02:43 AM by Ken Burch
than he is with rooting out predator priests. That's why Benedict has insisted that all allegations of clerical sex crimes be sent to the Vatican rather than being dealt with by the bishops' conferences in the abusers' countries-he OPPOSES the idea of national bishops' conferences and cares more about that than protecting Catholic children from sexual abuse at the hands of priests.

Benedict is betraying the Catholic laity around the world with his stance, and it's looking more and more as if he will provoke a massive rebellion against his papacy. People aren't going to stand by and let their childrens' suffering be ignored-even by Holy Mother Church.

And he did this when he was working under John Paul II as the leader of the bureaucratic successor to the Inquisition.

This is what happens when you give a medieval man power in the modern world.

If you were still wondering why Sinead O'Connor tore up that photo of John Paul, this should give you some idea of what she was upset about.

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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 06:24 AM
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2. i don't understand how people can continue to support a church that is only interested
in protecting itself than the children of it's parishoners. and the idea that the pope himself is more interested in covering it up should be a big red flag. the only way they are actually going to do anything is if their revenue source, i mean parishoners, leave in droves.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 06:39 AM
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3. The largest denomination in the US today is Roman Catholicism.
The second largest is former Catholics. Many of these people aren't leaving because they have stopped believing; they are leaving because they do believe and are disgusted at how the hierarchy is distorting the Church.

I really think we are on the way to a second Reformation. It will happen soon and abruptly.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 07:02 AM
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4. I hope so
there is a lot that needs to be reformed currently in the church.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 03:36 PM
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7. With a posting name like that, you'd appreciate that this is the kind of thing
that made Oscar Wilde say that he couldn't live as a Catholic, but he could die as one(which he did, converting on his deathbead).
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LaydeeBug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 07:03 AM
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5. I think this Pope should go too, along with others.
I'm in a "throw them the hell out" mood.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-12-10 03:35 PM
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6. About the only way they could do that would be to declare him an "antipope"
Which usually requires some question about the legitimacy of one's elevation to the papacy.

Since the conclave didn't let Diebold count the scruples, that isn't happening.

It's probably the kind of situation that would require Renaissance-style court intrigue. But I don't know if anybody's that good at poisoning anymore besides the Russians. And, really, why should Putin care?
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