Holy F*CK-ALL. Republicans Have NO Shame. Look At This Graphic:

[Hissyspit]

...from Washington Post today: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4502103

Comparing Democratic and Republican tax plans

The Republicans' plan to extend the Bush administration tax cuts for the wealthy would cost $36.6 billion more than the Democrats' plan, which extends cuts only for families making less than $250,000 a year and individuals making less than $200,000.



Seriously. Are you shitting me?

Is there any question at ALL how evil these people are? Is there any question who it is they want to fuck over? AT ALL? (I know the counterargument would be that statistics and charts and graphics are misleading and that is actually a smaller percentage of these massively wealthy people's income, and my response would be: SO WHAT??)

Quoting Austin Goldbee, a member of the President Obama's Council of Economic Advisers, on Rachel Maddow's show tonight, if tax cuts for the massively rich work for deficit reduction, what happened? We have been doing it for the past decade.

I mean, how crappin' stupid do these Repub criminals think we are??!

Rachel's response: Well, it has created the greatest economic disparity since the 1920s, so it accomplished something.

[eleny]

1. I've been watching, too - amazing!

kr

[Hissyspit]

17. SOURCE: Joint Committee on Taxation | The Washington Post - August 12, 2010

Meant to put that in and forgot.

[Sanity Claws]

2. That looks like it will backfire

It shows that the Republicans favor the big guys.

[Xipe Totec]

3. They must think Americans are morons

I'm scared they might be right.

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

16. One third are morons

[MadMaddie]

4. Rachal was covering this too

Unbelievable....the Repugs have no shame.

[geckosfeet]

5. Problem is - the teabag wing of the republicon group can't read charts with numbers.

[Canuckistanian]

12. But surely they can recognize SHAPES

Oh. Sorry, I was making an assumption there.

[KansDem]

44. I think they can recognize colors...

...but that's about it.

[valerief]

51. No, they're good with certain shapes, too, like guns. nt

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

6. I linked to it here earlier:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8936628&mesg_id=8936628

It really is something else.

[Hissyspit]

8. Thanks. Sorry to dupe you, but I had to use curse words. No other way

to express myself.

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

11. I understand completely. Trust me on this one.

Just glad to see the graph getting out there.

[Liberalynn]

7. Why do you think they hate Education and keep cutting its funding?

"I mean, how crappin' stupid do these Repub criminals think we are??!"

An ignorant populace is their greatest tool. The sad thing is that there are so many clueless people that don't see through the PUKES act.

[mzmolly]

9. Very interesting graphic. Trickle down tax burden does not create jobs.

Thanks Hissyspit. :hi:

[tridim]

10. The ad is so simple..

Replace the circles with piles of dollar bills.
Replace the <$10,000 figure with an image of a poor family.
Replace the $50,000-$75,000 figure with a average middle-class family.
Replace the $1,000,000+ figure with a Rich CEO type on his yacht.

Then just show it on screen for 30 seconds.

Done.

We win.

[V_Byl]

72. I like...

I think I'll play around with photoshop before going to bed tonight and see what I come up with.

:)

[Oceansaway]

13. K&R...n/t

[Kind of Blue]

14. That is one Helluva graphic

And all those ones before that monster think it's going to trickle up :rofl:

[roguevalley]

15. fucking pigs. that is what they are.

[Hissyspit]

18. Correction on Spelling: Austan Goolsbee

[LatteLibertine]

19. Usually I'm fairly positive and

many folks are poorly informed. Look at the number that believe President Obama signed in the financial market bailout. *sigh* That was initiated in late 2008.

If we go back to a Republican President and Republican majorities in the house and senate my rear is moving. I will have pretty much lost all my faith in "the people".

[DaveinJapan]

21. Poorly informed, or just lied to?

How many times did the noise machine insinuate, one way or another, that Obama was the one "responsible" for the bailout, though not in so many words?

Just like the way the Bush administration managed to include Saddam Hussain into every 9/11 comment without *technically* linking the two, that sort of propaganda sinks in after a while.

It's despicable, but I don't blame the folks who are brainwashed by it. It's hard enough to keep things straight when you're on top of the news 24/7 like a typical DU poster probably is.

[freebrew]

66. That's right.

And when the revolution starts(IF), it starts at FAUX. Every one of those traitors needs to be in irons.

[Stand and Fight]

20. Yikes.

That graphic really drives the point home.

[Hissyspit]

22. Righteous Kick nt

[SpiralHawk]

23. Republicons do not do shame -- or truth

or honor, for that matter. As they have demonstrated repeatedly...

[NuttyFluffers]

24. the smart republicans think everyone else is as stupid to put a gun to their own head and shoot.

considering the majority of the authoritarian personalities they keep in the rest of their party, it's an understandable estimation...

[Turborama]

25. Holy F*CK INDEED!!

K & R!

Thanks a lot for sharing this, everyone should print at least 100 copies of it and post it all over the towns where they live! :kick:

[pnorman]

26. Am I missing something in this thread?

I can't find the original source for the above graphic.

[Hissyspit]

27. Yes, you are. Click the link in the OP at top.

...which is for my LBN posting of the Washington Post article. Click on the link within that and you then have to click the link where my dupe LBN posting was combined with an earlier posting. In that, you can find the Washington Post article link. When you click on that, within their article look for:

"THIS STORY
GOP tax plan would add billions to deficit
Comparing Democratic and Republican tax plans"

...and click the "Comparing" graphics link.

I know, that's too many links, but I didn't realize that the LBN article was going to get combined and I should have put the original Post link into the OP. Sorry about that!

OR you can just click HERE: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/11/AR2010081105864.html

and HERE: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2010/08/11/GR2010081106717.html?sid=ST2010081200375

:-)

(Also, the source attribution is in the second comment.)

[pnorman]

31. The bottom link did the trick.. Thanks!

I'm never implying anything negative when I ask such questions, But I frequently work in "hostile" venues, and basing my posting on only a Photobucket graphic is something I can NOT do

[Hissyspit]

34. You are brave. Good luck.

Feel free to quote me. :-) :thumbsup:

[pnorman]

47. I probably should have said "fiercely adversarial", rather than "hostile".

The venues have to with my Union, which covers shipboard officers, primarily marine engineers. Understandably some, unconsciously or otherwise, buy into the elitist mindset and are quite conservative. A few are reactionary, almost beyond belief. But we're all Brothers and Sisters, most with years of shared experiences --- aboard ship or at the Union hiring hall. Accordingly, there's a climate of fraternal respect, with next to nothing of personal attacks.

But we all gleefully POUNCE on "dodgy" info! Hence my caution when introducing such stuff.

[Ignis]

52. Thanks for those other links, Hissyspit.

More and more corporate firewalls are blocking photobucket these days. :(

[anarch]

28. but once I lift myself up by my own bootstraps, and become wealthy,

why should I have to pay for the welfare of all the poor, lazy slobs who don't have the good old American grit and determination to work hard enough to join me? Because I just know if I work hard enough and keep reaching for that golden ring, some day I'll be rich...


/deluded repub thinking

[russspeakeasy]

54. We have no boot straps left...we ate them..

[Betty Karlson]

29. I'm preparing an article on this, for DU.

Would you mind if I reuse the graphic, or link to it?

[Hissyspit]

30. The graphic belongs to the Washington Post, so as far as I know, it's fine.

If you hot link to it here, then you will be hot-linking to Photobucket, which I believe is o.k. with them. It is always better to copy it and save it to your own server or storage service.

[bdamomma]

32. it just shows you how they think of me first.

[sofa king]

33. Hey, they have a responsibility to...

...their vanishingly small, heavily overrepresented, propaganda reinforced, corporate-owning and -backed constituents.

One of them is worth half a million people who didn't vote for a Republican.

[EstimatedProphet]

35. Didn't you know? Superrich people deserve those tax cuts!

They're better than everyone else. We should be happy they let us live at all to lick their boots, because they could just swat us like a fly and destroy us all, since they are all Supermen and Masters Of The Universe and everything.

[OwnedByFerrets]

36. We, on average, ARE very stupid

However, I use the word WE loosely.

[hfojvt]

37. too bad the chart does not show the top 400

where the average tax cut is $20,000,000 or so.

[unpossibles]

38. BOTH TEH PARTIES ARE THE SAME!!11!

assuming you're making less tan $100,000. Of course, what people on the right fail to understand is that those taxes go to pay for a lot of things they believe in, yet they want everything for free apparently.

[Capitalocracy]

39. You can tell who Republicans govern for. nt

[november3rd]

40. Bullseye

When are the televiewing American public going to realize this whole "Cut taxes: Small Government" meme is about "No equality: Rich control?"

[iamthebandfanman]

41. charts charts charts.

lets just hope they actually let them expire.

[Sheepshank]

42. The [b]tax break [/b] given the richest on the chart

is greater than the income of 80% of those on the that chart.

They don't see anything wrong with that?

If the freaking trickle down effect would have worked, wouldn't those savings have translated to hirings? Doesn't the employment hemmorage under Bush discount all of that?

The rich have had the some strange hold on the poorest of the Republicans. They seem to want to fight tooth and nail for others' bloated wallets. I.JUST.DON'T.GET.IT

[oldhippydude]

57. after all

the great ronald raken, was the first to use voo-doo economics.. i remember being unemployed the first 3 years of the reagan regime, and struggling every since, except for a couple of years of the clinton presidency.. 30 years is more than enough time, to declare supply side economics unworkable..some sort of draconian elitist joke..

[Frisbee]

43. What I can't understand is...

they've had since at least the late 1920s to figure this shit out (the idiots who continue to support the very policies that keep them poor), and you certainly could go back farther, and yet here we are in the 21st century, and the people who will be harmed most by these policies continue to fight for them. Not just fight, but demonize and even threaten the very people who are actually trying to help them. I just can't understand how any working class people can support the repuke agenda.

[deaniac21]

45. This is a much more accurate way to look at it.

http://www.mytaxburden.org/

The Wapo graphic shows projections by Democratic Senate staffers. This Sows the difference for you if 1) the Bush credits are allowed to expire 2) If the Bush taxes are extended 3) Obama Budget

[vanbean]

74. That must a right-wing site. It compares the non-extended tax with Bush's

extended tax, and not with the Obama plan in the conclusion at the bottom after the calculation.
If they were not a right wing site they would have compared the non-extended plan with the Obama plan. Under Obama's plan, I save $300 more in taxes than if the Bush tax cuts were extended.

[AldebTX]

46. Just Amazing

[DirtyDawg]

48. Somebody help me, please...

...I saw Rachel's report on this last night and immediately was confused. I've been saying all along as part of my argument to my Republican friends that allowing the top rate to move from 35% of income (adjusted gross, I assume) to 39.6% - an increase of 4.6 points, or 13.1% in actual taxes that would have to be paid - isn't all that much in the grand scheme of things. What I mean is that for someone making $1,000,000, at 35%, the annual tax is $350,000...and at 39.6% it's $396,000 - an annual difference of $46,000...So where does that $103,835 come from? It's not one year...it's not two years...in fact it just doesn't compute.

So what's the point? I mean if people saw just, comparatively, how little the impact would be on those making that kind of money, surely they wouldn't be as exercised by it. But when they see a number like a $100,000 increase, they freak - even if it doesn't impact them. I contend that we need to be realistic in our figures, because it seems to me that a better argument is that all this fuss is over a sum that probably wouldn't even pay their annual Club bills. By the way, I've seen the figures for those that 'gross' that kind of money...they pay less than 30% in taxes by the time their accountants get through 'doctoring' it.

So, somebody please show me what I'm missing.

[NJmaverick]

49. K & R!

[raouldukelives]

50. So sad and disgusting

They run/own the largest corporations in the world which treat us and our country like guinea pigs. They are painstakingly set-up to exist here but never pay any taxes or in many cases get subsidies. Now they can spend all the extra corporate cash they have floating around Dubai to support politicians openly.
They have spent umpteen millions lobbying Washington to work only for them or elect people they own. They openly sell us out to the highest bidder in the world. They care nothing for God and country. Only about the almighty dollar on high. Then, we are allowed the privilege of investing part of our meager earnings in 401ks which they might even match! Gosh, investing right back into you so you can keep building predator drones, polluting our environment and making money denying us care when you make us sick. Sounds great! And maybe, just maybe, I might squeeze out enough nickels from you to retire before I die or before we destroy it all.

[russspeakeasy]

53. This is way to complicated for those with red ties,

and red necks.

[proud patriot]

55. no shame at all

[florida08]

56. shit you not

As one informed person here I know stated: If the top 1% are get 99% of the income then they should be paying 99% of the taxes..
but as you see it's not the case and hasn't been since Reagan. Remember republican policy is always and will always be profits go one way. UP....I would actually help pay for this to be on billboards across the country.

[Deep13]

58. None at all.

They were hired to protect the assets of the super-rich and that is what they are doing.

[LittleGirl]

59. Stomach churning most grotesque thing I've ever seen

That chart. Make me furious, fed-up and mean as hell in less than a second.

[florida08]

60. who rules america

anyone see a pattern..

[florida08]

61. biggest contributor of deficits?..u guessed it

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/10/13/792976/-Its-Official:-CBPP-calls-Tax-Cuts-a-Boon-to-Top-1

[CLANG]

62. It's not about how stupid we are, but the republican base. Bunch of morans!

[CLANG]

63. Morons will simply look at the big circle and say - see republicans are given bigger tax cuts!!

:eyes:

[humbled_opinion]

64. Interesting graph

It seems both parties are on par with each other until the 500k-1M mark the question is this what happens to the increase tax money that the top 1 percent pays under the Democratic plan? Does it pay the debt? spur new programs? I don't think our leaders have been effective at selling the point that by getting this money from the rich could actually solve our debt problems.

[Liberal In Texas]

65. K&R

[JDPriestly]

67. This is astounding.

The Republicans (and the Clinton administration) experimented with their free market, laissez-faire, next-to-no-regulation, trickle-down theories, and we see the results: the economic melt-down; loss of our manufacturing base; no good jobs; increased poverty, hunger and homelessness increasingly experienced by educated, hard-working middle-class Americans; the Massey coal mine disaster; the BP disaster; more and more outsourcing; more and more importing; more and more trade deficits . . . . There is no end to the misery and destruction this economic theory has caused to our country.

And Obama is no better. If you go to WhiteHouse.gov, you can hear Obama's recent speech on what he claims is a bill that will decrease our imports and increase our exports, a bill that he claims will mean more manufacturing jobs and a revival of manufacturing in our country.

This bill that is supposed to help American industry and jobs WILL LOWER TARIFFS ON CERTAIN COMPONENT PARTS IMPORTED FROM OTHER COUNTRIES.

Surely, President Obama is not so stupid as to actually believe that what we need now is to lower tariffs. That is a con game pure and simple. Sorry, whether it is perpetrated by a Democrat or a Republican, it is not the way to increase jobs in America.

Here we go again. Is it any wonder that intelligent people on the left criticize the Obama administration? What kind of economic recovery plan lowers tariffs? That is absurd beyond absurdity.

[Jakes Progress]

68. How stupid do they think we are?

As a nation of voters, I think they pretty much have that figured out.

republicans are lying, hypocritical fools.

[defendandprotect]

69. Now THAT'S what I call graphics . . . !!! Nice job -- !!

[BrklynLiberal]

70. " I mean, how crappin' stupid do these Repub criminals think we are??! "

It would seem that the answer to that is obvious...sadly, there are many out there who DO fall for this crapola!!!
The truly ridiculous part is that those who fall for it the hardest, are the very same who will suffer the most.

http://markmaynard.com/?p=7501

<snip>
The best part of the article is the contribution by Thomas Frank, the author of What’s the Matter with Kansas?: How Conservatives Won the Heart of America. Here’s a highlight:

….Right-wing politics has become a vehicle for channelling this popular anger against intellectual snobs. The result is that many of America’s poorest citizens have a deep emotional attachment to a party that serves the interests of its richest.

Thomas Frank says that whatever disadvantaged Americans think they are voting for, they get something quite different:

“You vote to strike a blow against elitism and you receive a social order in which wealth is more concentrated than ever before in our life times, workers have been stripped of power, and CEOs are rewarded in a manner that is beyond imagining… It’s like a French Revolution in reverse in which the workers come pouring down the street screaming more power to the aristocracy.”

As Mr Frank sees it, authenticity has replaced economics as the driving force of modern politics. The authentic politicians are the ones who sound like they are speaking from the gut, not the cerebral cortex. Of course, they might be faking it, but it is no joke to say that in contemporary politics, if you can fake sincerity, you have got it made.

And here, according to the author of the article, is the big takeaway message from all of this… “If people vote against their own interests, it is not because they do not understand what is in their interest or have not yet had it properly explained to them. They do it because they resent having their interests decided for them by politicians who think they know best. There is nothing voters hate more than having things explained to them as though they were idiots. As the saying goes, in politics, when you are explaining, you are losing. And that makes anything as complex or as messy as healthcare reform a very hard sell.”

So, I guess, with that in mind, the next time we Democrats select a candidate, we should look for some affable, moderately attractive, football-loving, beer-drinking regular guy who can speak vaguely about good and evil, the importance of family, and how we Americans are the best people God ever put upon the face of the earth, without ever proposing legislation to address the serious structural problems that our country is facing, or, for that matter, even letting us know that such issues exist. (And it probably wouldn’t hurt if he was white.) Because, as we know, Americans don’t want to be told such things. Or, here’s another thought. It might take a little longer, but we could instead focus on educating our population so they’re not such a mouth-breathing mass of gibberish-spouting morons, throwing around words like Socialist, Communist and Fascist as though they’re interchangeable, and raving about “death panels.” Seriously, the only way to change the course we’re on is to focus on education. The Republicans are brilliant in that respect. By defunding public schools, and fighting for voucher programs so that kids can attend religious schools, where they can be taught that men rode around on dinosaurs 6,000 years ago, they’re creating a nation of easily exploitable morons. It not only makes the public less able to think critically, though. It also makes the teachers’ union, one of their most significant adversaries, considerably weaker… We need to start thinking strategically too.

<snip>

[Zorra]

71. Welp, that shoots down the meme that there is no difference between Dems and pubs. nt

[Beartracks]

73. Republicans: Fuzzy math and fuzzy "logic"

Let's see: Huge Bush tax cuts were enacted, then we got a huge recession, and so Republicans are arguing that to fix the deficit and the recession, we should continue those huge tax cuts.

Uh... We're talking fuzzy math, with a LOT of fuzz. If tax cuts cure deficits and recessions, we would not currently have either. Morans.

:eyes:

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[NewJeffCT]

75. This needs to be made into an advertisement

and broadcast into districts/states where there are close races.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

76. I'm gouing to make thousands of copies and hand it out to people

[David Zephyr]

77. What a revealing chart. Thanks, Hissyspit.

Kick!