Pharaoh had ritual sex in front of the masses, why not the President?!1

[UTUSN]

Believe it or not, I was ticked and flummoxed to hear some idiot on the radio news today say he wanted OBAMA, on the family trip to Florida, to go BEYOND the speech and appearances and get in the water because this would show the entire country that the water is clean and therefore the entire country would flock to Florida with dollars clutched to turn over to the local motel and restaurant operators and therefore save Florida. This was a couple of weeks after they griped that he had gone to the East coast instead of going to Florida. First they DEMAND this, then you give it to them, then they DEMAND something else, it's never enough!1

Why was I ticked, because I spent May and June defending OBAMA against wingnut idiots -- JINDAL and the NUSS-f***er "president of F-off Parish" -- who were attacking him, who were jumping up and down screaming and demanding that HE jump up and down and magically plug the damned well with some appendage of his body. I wrote angry e-mails to Joe SCAB over his daily attacks, the works.

Later, when the firestorm had died down A LITTLE, I arrived at the moderate criticism that what OBAMA really did wrong was not to emphasize from Day 1 with a daily and firm speech like this: Look, this thing is NOT going to be closed until August. THERE IS NO WAY UNTIL THEN. In the meantime, we will stay on BP's ass and will be launching the biggest clean up and containing methods in history. It WON'T, CAN'T be fixed UNTIL AUGUST, get it?!1

I know that was said from the beginning, but it was ventured out there in a timid way and it was overwhelmed by the a-holes jumping up and down and screaming.

So, this morning, it was ASTOUNDING to hear that Florida idiot say that he wants OBAMA literally to jump in the water.

Yeah, the ancient kings LITERALLY had to have ritual sex in front of the masses. That said, Gawker, which increasingly seems to be dead on on an hourly basis, took a cooler execution than mine.




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http://gawker.com/5613022/why-will-barack-obama-not-bear-his-beautiful-chest-to-save-the-gulf

Why Won't Barack Obama Bare His Beautiful Chest to Save the Gulf?

The Gulf Coast: Devastated by hurricanes and oil spills. But nothing can compare to the latest insult. President Barack Obama has refused to strip down and show off his sculpted pecs to the press on a pristine Florida beach.

Obama is taking a trip to Panama City, Florida this weekend at the behest of governor Charlie Crist to help fight the idea that the entire coast is covered in oil and dead pelicans. What's he going to do down there? Announce a renewed commitment to the people of the Gulf? Or strip to the waist and splash in the water in slow motion while water beads brilliantly on his taut skin?

Stephen Leatherman, a professor at Florida International University told CNN, "Absolutely, I want him to take his shirt off and get in the water... because I think there's this feeling that if you get in, you're going to get contaminated or get all kinds of disease." Somebody's spent many lonely nights in his office replaying an old VHS of Obama's Democratic National Convention speech.

The prospect of a shirtless Obama also has the D.C. press corps acting like fifteen year-old girls at a Jonas Brothers concert. Today's White House press pool report reads:

(QUOTE: ) (Obama) said he will swim but out of the prying eyes of the press. He joked that the last time he went swimming without his shirt on he wound up on the cover of magazines. Pool joked that that's a good thing. ( :UNQUOTE)

Mr. President, If you could just say a few words about reports that you are smoking hot?

But why stop at the waist? If Obama taking his shirt off in public can save the Gulf, imagine what would happen if he took his pants off. Palestinians and Israelis would lay down their weapons in awe; the Dow would shoot up 500 points; someone would discover a fourth Girl with the Dragon Tattoo book.

Take it off, Mr. President. Take it all off.


Send an email to Adrian Chen, the author of this post, at [e-mail].

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[KingFlorez]

1. This has to be the first time ever that anyone actually wants a President to take his clothes off

:rofl:

[sandnsea]

2. And then the Pres went for a swim

So I guess everybody is happy?

[JanusAscending]

3. WINNER !!!

n/t:kick: and rec!

[flamingdem]

12. awwwww nt

[foxfeet]

4. Not even the RW would want to watch Poppy Bush's nekkid ass humping away at Babs.

[Jamastiene]

6. BRAIN BLEACH!!!!

I need brain bleach after that visual. :puke:

:scared:

[foxfeet]

8. I do, too. I'm typing blind here.

My partner had to read your post to me while I ran the faucet over my eyes. It still burns.

[northernlights]

14. gouge my eyes out, please, quick

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[MineralMan]

16. My brain outright rejected that image, thank goodness.

[QC]

20. EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

[foxfeet]

31. I'm so happy you're happy!

:P

[Jamastiene]

5. Admit it.

You just wanted an excuse to post the swimming Obama picture again, didn't you?

:rofl:

[UTUSN]

10. I'm a cerebral type, much like the President, except for certain erratic postings, which,

for some reason, tend to occur on Friday and Sunday nights, usually in the Lounge. That said, the pic is from the link, and I go out of my way most of the time, to edit closely, mark quotes clearly, highlight, and associate graphics with my posts. That said, my ire of two months has abated enough for me to appreciate Gawker's and your fun. B-)

[Pharaoh]

7. I did not have ritual sex before the masses!!

You must be referring to some other Pharaoh! :party:

[boppers]

9. LOL

I notice you used the qualifier "ritual"....

:evilgrin:

[UTUSN]

22. O, great Pharaoh, you DO know that both your post and this thread are now smeared all over Google?!1

I've spent the past couple or more hours Google-searching in attempting to answer the question in Post #15 and have been startled to find both of us on PAGE ONE of more than a few Search-terms!1 Let's just say that our DU postings will sink any political campaigns we might have entertained.

[rug]

11. I've had ritual sex after two years of marriage.

[theothersnippywshrub]

13. The Great Prevaricator often went on TV to fuck the American people. n/t

[Me.]

15. Um, I Get Your Point About Obama

But who says ancient Pharaohs had to have sex before the masses?

[UTUSN]

17. Well, I wasn't there personally, but it was a tidbit I picked up somewhere, either

in a History Channel "Sex in the Ancient World" type of thing or one of those little details that seem to stick when all the rest of very long, scholarly books where it occured are forgotten.

But my delay in replying with the answer was due to an exhausting (as opposed to "exhaustive") Google search. Perhaps my search terms "ancient ritual sex" were not specific enough to Egypt, so, after posting this, I will tirelessly plunge right back into Google at great personal investment.

There were several articles sort of skirting around the issue of "sacred marriage" and "temple sex" that SORT OF implied that this stuff was done in public, but so far this excerpt is the closest to saying it explicitly, and yet, it is not specifically refering to the Pharaohs, so I'll be back when I have gotten the really pertinent stuff!1


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http://www.ishtartemple.org/myth.htm

The Mythology of Sex by Sarah Dening
Chapter 3 Sex in Ancient Civilizations
Sumeria: Ihe Earliest Records

.... The sexual union of Inanna and Dumuzi was the prototype of the Sumerian custom of the "sacred marriage." which was ritually performed at the New Year festival. This rite later became widespread in other societies, notably Babylon and Greece. In its Sumerian form, the high priestess, known as the "Entu," in order to ensure the renewal of fertility throughout the land, would ceremonially mate with the high priest or king, who personified the life force of the earth. In fact, as far as we can tell, the kings of Sumeria may literally have been sons, fathers and consorts of the high priestesses. As the representative of the goddess the priestess would, through sexual union with the king, bestow her divine power upon him, thereby making him fit to rule. In the ceremony itself, it fell to the priestess to take the initiative and grant her heavenly favors, thereby furthering life. For his part the god-king had to bring her offerings and await her pleasure: ultimate power was in her keeping. Any child born of such a union was considered to be half-human and half-divine.

Further fragments of the Inanna story emphasize the importance to the people of this ceremony. It was the successful performance of the sacred marriage that guaranteed the renewed growth of all human, animal and plant life:

"The people of Sumer assemble in the palace,
The house which guides the land.
In order to care for the life of all the lands,
Ihe exact first day of the month is closely examined...
So that the New Yearís Day, the day of rites,
May be properly determined,
And a sleeping place be set up for Inanna." ....

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[Me.]

18. For A Good & Honest Effort

:thumbsup:

[UTUSN]

19. & the effort has been ONGOING, relentless, & draining!1 Check the clock-time of these posts!1

I have learned some fascinating things and just scratched the surface. So thanks for sending me out on this quest. I'm afraid I haven't pegged a link specific to your question, but I assure you so far that I really did hear or read it somewhere.

But fast-forwarding in a Mel BROOKS History of the World kind of way, it's well known that the European kings performed the marriage night consumation in bedroomsful of gawkers, in very documented times, yes?!1

[Me.]

23. There Were Peepholes To Be Sure

And the marriage sheets were checked the next morning to confirm consummation, but it was not a group event. What did happen in public, at least in France was that the queens had to give birth in public, that is to say, in a room so stuffed full, with courtiers and attendants, that there was danger of suffocation. The English queens fared better but there did have to be witnesses to the birth so a switch couldn't be pulled.

[Ignis]

21. Ritual sex by the headman/chief/king is common in early agrarian societies.

Sometimes the Solar King was even allowed to live, afterward. ;)

The books of Robert Graves can point you towards some good avenues for research in this area. They're dated, but an interesting read.

[Me.]

29. I Would Define Ancient Egypt As Being A More Comples Society Than Simply Agrarian

“The success of ancient Egyptian civilization stemmed partly from its ability to adapt to the conditions of the Nile River Valley. The predictable flooding and controlled irrigation of the fertile valley produced surplus crops, which fueled social development and culture. With resources to spare, the administration sponsored mineral exploitation of the valley and surrounding desert regions, the early development of an independent writing system, the organization of collective construction and agricultural projects, trade with surrounding regions, and a military intended to defeat foreign enemies and assert Egyptian dominance. Motivating and organizing these activities was a bureaucracy of elite scribes, religious leaders, and administrators under the control of a pharaoh who ensured the cooperation and unity of the Egyptian people in the context of an elaborate system of religious beliefs.<4><5>

The many achievements of the ancient Egyptians include the quarrying, surveying and construction techniques that facilitated the building of monumental pyramids, temples, and obelisks; a system of mathematics, a practical and effective system of medicine, irrigation systems and agricultural production techniques, the first known ships,<6> Egyptian faience and glass technology, new forms of literature, and the earliest known peace treaty.<7> Egypt left a lasting legacy. Its art and architecture were widely copied, and its antiquities carried off to far corners of the world. Its monumental ruins have inspired the imaginations of travellers and writers for centuries. A newfound respect for antiquities and excavations in the early modern period led to the scientific investigation of Egyptian civilization and a greater appreciation of its cultural legacy, for Egypt and the world.<8>”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egypt

[Ignis]

30. No argument from me there.

I'd say it qualified as a state-level society, given the job specializations.

My point was that ritual, public sex by the king is quite common in societies in which agriculture plays a dominant role, as is solar worship.

[Zephie]

24. At the risk of being lynched...

I would genuinely appreciate it if Obama actually did go swimming on his visit down here. I by no means am demanding it, but I do feel it would ease a lot of fears felt by would-be tourists. I live in a very tourist centric part of the state of FL (though, honestly what part of FL isn't reliant on tourists), and it's scary to see local shops that have been doing so well previously not getting any custom due to lack of tourists. Of course the recession has something to do with it, but we all know that the spill scared away what tourists could have made it anyway...

[tabasco]

25. He went swimming in the Gulf today with his daughter.

Maybe you missed it.

[Zephie]

26. I had missed it! Thanks!

I slept all day - yay for days off. =)

[UTUSN]

27. Well, he did go swimming, there's a new pic in Post #2, not the O.P. pic

I think your main point, "the recession has something to do with it," is, well, the main point.

I was just trying to focus on the hateful media yakkers who will NEVER be satisfied by anything he does. If he went to Maine, they yapped about his not going to Florida, if he went to Florida they want him to jump in the water, it's always something else/more. And I was trying to point out how primitive we really are that we put such symbolic crap on one human. We might be advanced in material ways but we're primitive creatures inside. We still have the same issues ancient people had--how Saul was chosen because he was so GOOD LOOKING, and after he bummed out the lesson supposedly learned was not to pick bosses based on that. We still have that "good looking" fallacy going on: When Mittens (ROMNEY) was running, the local Mormons sent out FOUR of their mature dudes walking up my street, all of them looking like clothes-models from advertisements, smiling themselves silly all full of themselves. I swear that's what it was about.

(Sheesh, I'll never learn: I make a quick reference (to Saul) and I'll have to look it up to prove it to somebody!1)

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