Cornyn: NYC mosque will be an election issue

[still_one]

"President Barack Obama stepped forcefully into the debate over the "Ground Zero mosque" Friday with an impassioned defense of freedom of religion. One Republican senator says the president has now made this an election issue."

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0815/cornyn-nyc-mosque-election-issue/

It is about time that the Democratic party get up and forcefully call the leaders of the republican party bigoted thugs who want to destroy the Constitution, and spread hate and dissent throughout the country

Out of all issues this is one the Democrats should NOT shy away from.

What the republicans are doing is calling all Muslims terrorists, and evil. It is a freedom of religion, and yes, a civil rights issue

If there is anything the Democrats should fight for, it is this. It is the foundation of our country

[no_hypocrisy]

1. Good. Let the democrats and independents counter by running on The Constitution

and the First Amendment Rights that are derived from it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8950293

[still_one]

3. They better. Obama has pretty much taken the lead on this, and no, he didn't back away

though the media is trying to distort it as such

This is such a fundamental issue, and we really must put our stake in the ground on this

[eleny]

2. They can make it an election issue. But will it change the outcome in NYC?

[still_one]

4. It isn't about the outcome anymore, it is about defending the Constitution

and the Bill Of Rights

We have a political party inciting people against a group of Americans because of their religious beliefs, it is as simple and as dangerous as that

[Cassandra]

5. As the Daily Show pointed out...

there is a mosque which predates the WTC, 4 blocks away. What's being proposed is a cultural center. Cornyn can kiss my NYC ass.

[Bitwit1234]

6. Hey why isn't not FUNDING THE 9/11 responders a election issue.

Now that is something that should be talked about over and over and over. The republicans want to shred the Constitution because the erroneously spew crap about the Mosque, but they won't support Americans who responded to that site. Gee what a bunch of crap.

[metapunditedgy]

7. A bullshit debate to keep the masses polarized and distracted from the real issues.

Will we be distracted?

[Imajika]

12. Yes..

This issue is not going to be a good one for us, even though we are standing on the correct side of the debate.

[metapunditedgy]

13. I think it will work out fine for the corporatists, but badly for progressives.

Obama is right to stand up for the mosque, but this is *not* the debate we need to be having right now.

Ironically, I just finished posting on this... the *real* divide is corporatist vs. non-corporatist.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8950869

Trying to re-cast it as mosque vs. non-mosque is a distraction, and I suspect the corporatist Democrats would be happy to see such a distraction as November approaches.

[Imajika]

18. Agreed about changing the debate...

Also agreed about calling the opposition "corporatist", but we really can't call the opposition to that (us) "non-corporatist". This may be a true statement, but it has no ring to it and won't galvanize much excitement in my opinion. There are other problems as well, but I will post those thoughts in your thread.

[still_one]

19. Gee, that is what we have been saying all through the bush administration

The fact is this is a Constitutional issue.

"Your argument that it won't be a good one for us" is wrong on so many levels

Even on the most basic level, The Democrats should define the issue, and not the opposition

The issue is one of defending the Constitution

[still_one]

14. The repukes are directly attacking the Constitution. That is a real issue

and it has been a real issue since 9/11, and at other times in our country's history

This should NOT be ignored, because it IS the foundation of our country

[metapunditedgy]

17. It should not be ignored, but it should also be viewed in perspective

with all the other things the Corporatist party has done.

We can keep playing "whites vs. browns" and be suckered just like we have for hundreds of years, or we can focus our united attention on the fundamental issues in our society, and the folks who want to keep us divided.

Put another way, if you want to stop fighting stupid battles like this, work to shut down the oligarchy that uses racial conflict as a tool to keep us all down.

[still_one]

20. If the Democrats would pull their heads out of their asses and define the issues

including this one, instead of the repukes constantly setting the ground rules it would be different

[metapunditedgy]

23. What politician is going to say: "This is a manufactured issue to make people obsess

about their racial mistrust, instead of coming together to work for real change"?

Otherwise, how do you think the Democrats should define the issue, that they haven't done already?

[still_one]

26. I like your approach in defining the way you did

My point was also a larger issue how it seems to me Democrats do not control the issues

[applegrove]

28. It is about voting out of fear vs. voting out of hope. And Obama is about

embracing change and hope. The GOP is all about fear.

[marmar]

8. That man is a contemptable pig if there ever was one......

Apologies to actual pigs.

[mmonk]

9. He figures by bringing this up, the Democrats will back down.

Can't say I blame him but I hope not.

[still_one]

15. I hope not either, in fact this IS an opportunity for the Democrats, by example to

demonstrate how much the leadership in the repuke party is against the Constitution

What the Democrats should say to those refucking repukes that if they have a problem with the Bill Of Rights, BRING IT BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT

[47of74]

21. Question

What exactly is refucking?

[still_one]

22. I was a little bit emotional, should have been refuckingpublicans /nt

[ThomWV]

10. Obama's election is over 2 years away, this will not be an issue in 2012

The people in this country have an attention span of about 2 weeks, not 2 years.

[Raineyb]

11. Considering Cornyn and his ilk don't give a fuck about NYC he ought to keep it the fuck

out of his election campaign. He's not welcomed here.

[still_one]

16. that is a different issue, and you are of course correct. However, he is attacking

the Bill Of Rights, and that is an issue

[Posteritatis]

24. Oh yes, Republicans, please turn that into an election issue

Campaign on overriding any number of laws, traditions and local wishes for how people develop their own communities based on what people elsewhere supposedly think about them. Bonus points for transparently aiming it at one specific group of people. Maybe use some rhetoric like the NY Post let fly today.

All your small-government and libertarian buddies will just love you to bits for going down those sorts of roads, implying that you'll also have the right to micromanage what they do in their own communities. It'll really convince anyone sitting on the fence as to where you stand, too!

It'll be awesome, as long as you don't go throwing anyone into briar patches..

[Bozita]

25. No more mosques and lots more taxcuts = One helluva platform!

Add that to "no abortions ever" and "no gay marriages ever."

Voila! ... Solving America's problems, GOP style.

[malaise]

27. Hey John

Watch DOJ carefully - you and Ensign are up shit creek and C Street without a paddle.

[pinboy3niner]

29. LOL!

Kinda hard for the fundies to OPPOSE religious freedom.

The wingnuts may make a big fuss about the WISDOM of locating Cordoba Center at that site, but even they recognize the right of the sponsors to do do it.