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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 01:25 PM
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PROOF---"FLASH CRASH" Of May 6--Traders KNEW What They Were Doing When They Ripped Us Off!
Edited on Sun Aug-15-10 01:26 PM by kpete
SEC: Retail Traders More Active During May 6 `Flash Crash'


By Fawn Johnson, Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

WASHINGTON -(Dow Jones)- A large number of trades broken from the May 6 "flash crash" were from retail traders because most professional traders had temporarily pulled out of the market, a Securities and Exchange Commission staffer said Wednesday.

The SEC and the Commodity Futures Trading Commission this fall will spell out the types of stocks that experienced broken trades as a result of the May 6 incident, when the Dow Jones Industrial Average fell nearly 1,000 points before partially recovering.

The SEC and CFTC plan to complete by September a final report on what happened on May 6, CFTC Chairman Gary Gensler said at a hearing on the flash crash.

"What we are seeing is that most professionals had exited the market" during the volatile afternoon half hour on May 6, said SEC staffer Gregg Berman, who is among the regulators examining the market data for clues to what happened.

Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-market-news-story.aspx?storyid=201008111252dowjonesdjonline000475&title=secretail-traders-more-active-during-may-6-%60flash-crash#ixzz0whRfZzkf

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We had our Technology Advisory Committee in this room last month and I asked the experts if this type of thing (High Frequency Trading programs taking advantage of price disparities due to delays in quote reporting) was possible or if it was just a conspiracy theory. Four of the panelists assured me that this could take place. In fact, they even acknowledged that some algorithmic programs were geared to not only take advantage of market circumstances, but could be used to instigate certain market conditions in order to then initiate their own program of buying or selling.
http://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/SpeechesTestimony/CommissionerBartChilton/chiltonstatement081110.html



It now appears that professional traders exited the market during the stormy period. That certainly would reduce liquidity. The result is that retail traders, you and me trying to manage our 401(k)s and IRAs, took the losses. Some of the trades were canceled, those in which the price was 60% above or below the price of the instrument at 2:40. That will help some of the people who traded ACN, but not those who traded PG and about 200 other stocks.

more:
http://firedoglake.com/2010/08/15/professional-traders-exited-market-before-flash-crash/
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 01:27 PM
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1. Give Elizabeth Warren the tools to deal with these consumer
predators.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 01:29 PM
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2. Flash crash retail traders sold at bad prices but they bought at crazy good prices.
The eggregiously priced trades were cancelled anyway.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 01:34 PM
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3. How Wall Street views retail traders
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 01:39 PM
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6. And...
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 01:34 PM
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4. Anybody who had a stop-loss order got screwed.
because they automatically dumped their stocks at a rock bottom price, while most stocks rebounded very quickly after that flash crash.
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KILL THE WISE ONE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 01:36 PM
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5. did the brokers provide data on pending stop loss orders ?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 01:47 PM
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7. Our investments were pirated.
Yes, we know. Now, why don't we hold the cops accountable?
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 01:54 PM
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8. Selective enforcement of flexible rules is to be expected in a crooked game. n/t
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-15-10 01:59 PM
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9. And we would be foolish to accept it.
They're part of the scam. Let's look in their eyes and call them for the crooks they are.
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