Male Call: The male-female divide over toilet-seat etiquette

[Omaha Steve]

http://www.mercurynews.com/top-stories/ci_15733569

By Male Call

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Posted: 08/15/2010 01:00:00 AM PDT

Even though the great majority of our mail is from women (thanks, gals -- don't forget the photos!), we knew deep down that there were plenty of male readers, too. They're just shy. But now we have ample proof they do exist! It was only a matter of highlighting the right subject to cause them to rise up, zombielike, to be heard.

It was our recent column on ways to nurture a relationship with constant communication while always anticipating a woman's needs that struck a chord with so many concerned fellows.

Ha ha, just kidding! No, the column that brought a mighty stream of e-mails from heretofore taciturn men was the one about pee. Potty humor, basically, with an emphasis on the dynamics of male urination. Our boys really warmed to the subject.

(Readers whose delicate sensibilities are offended by a free and frank exchange of views on this important subject should turn immediately to a less fraught topic -- the Mideast conflict? the economy? instant replays in baseball?)

The original question was from a woman who wondered why men insist on standing to pee; why not sit down like civilized people? Meaning, we gather, women.

D.H. from Palo Alto starts us off:

"The ability of the male to pee standing up is one thing that separates men from women -- kind of like an opposing thumb separating humans from the lesser animals. (Also), why do they complain about men leaving the toilet seat up, when they don't bother to close the lid? Do they think the toilet is any better looking with the smaller hole visible than the larger hole?"

FULL story at link.

[mattvermont]

1. I live with wife and 2 girls..

I sit down, and I like it.

[Madam Mossfern]

3. The seat down is not for aesthetics

It's a real bummer to get up in the middle of the night to pee and sit down on a toilet with the seat up and fall in. Sorry my tush isn't big enough not to fall through.

[daleanime]

7. Good Lord,

considering what goes down there, you seat down without looking down first? :hurts:

[wickerwoman]

67. Well,

you're half asleep and don't want to turn the light on because it will wake you up fully and it will take longer to fall asleep again.

Of course, with your behind soaked in freezing cold toilet water it takes a *really* long time to fall asleep again, both for you and the culprit.

:grr:

[MajorChode]

25. If you've ever been awakened out of a dead sleep by a screaming irate woman...

you'll leave the toilet seat down from that point on.

I'm speaking from experience here.

[snagglepuss]

70. lol very cheeky but so true. nt

[Occulus]

82. I remember that happening to me when I was a kid

I think the power was out, and I sat down to... well, I fell in.

The punch line? I think I might have been the one to leave the seat up when I left the room the last time. I always put the seat back down when I'm done ever since.

If you want to go all the way into the land of bathroom absurdity, go here. Yes, you too can own a luxury urinal. I've yet to see one in a home, though.

[Fleshdancer]

91. I was 8 months pregnant the one time that happened to me

Not only did I wake my husband up by screaming at him, but he also had to help get me out. :(

Not cool.

[Brooklyns_Finest]

41. You better sit down when you pee--or else!

[tallahasseedem]

101. And you rock!

:)

[LostinVA]

2. The default position is seat down n/a

[tammywammy]

11. In my house, the default position is lid down

But then again, I'm the only one living in this house. :)

[flyingfysh]

21. there is a very good reason to keep the lid down

If there is a shelf, things can fall in - especially if you have cats.

[Curmudgeoness]

35. Whew, I have heard another good reason, but it is so disgusting

that I didn't want to bring it up. Glad you didn't.

[surrealAmerican]

42. You keep it closed because of cats ...

... I keep it closed because of dogs.

[LostinVA]

40. Mine too, that's what I meant!

[Gormy Cuss]

62. The lid should be down before flushing, otherwise all sorts of wee beasties are aerosolized

and settle on surfaces all around the toilet. Yuck.

[Mimosa]

69. Yes, that is true. n/t

[snagglepuss]

71. I've heard that before but have you not considered the fact that when the lid

is closed all those "wee beasties" get desposited on the lid, so the next time you sit down the "wee-beasties" will be transfered to your back should you lean against the lid. Moral of the story: YOu can't win against the wee-beasties, they'll jump out of that bowl and get you hook or by crook.

[Buns_of_Fire]

83. "Wee beasties" my butt (so to speak)...

I'm more concerned about the sewer alligators, the pythons, the black widow spiders, the man-eating palmetto bugs, and chupalibre climbing up the the pipes and biting my butt while I'm otherwise busy communing with Mother Nature.

I think I've just scared myself from ever going to the bathroom again.:scared:

[mzteris]

90. better than landing on your toothbrush!!

and your towels and washclothes, brushes, makeup, clothes, face - if you're still in the room. . .

[Gormy Cuss]

94. Yes, that's the alternative.

At least it's somewhat contained to the toilet with the lid down.

[tularetom]

4. Best thing about livin in the country

I can pee off my front porch.

(Not that I ever do of course, heh heh).

[snagglepuss]

72. An old uncle of mine used to refer to that as stepping outside to strain

the cabbage.

[EmilyKent]

5. Only morons would stand, when they could sit.

Women can actually pee standing up. Men can actually pee sitting down.

And when such a simple bodily function gets treated like it's important to one's identity...I'd say the society is crashing.

[petronius]

22. For at least some guys, the standing position is better for complete evacuation

otherwise there can be secondary leakage. But yeah, anyone who bases their identity on urination-posture is a jackass.

My preference is seat and lid down at home (cat and spray deterrence) and at work I figure there's a better than 50% chance that the next person will need the seat, so I put it down...

[rocktivity]

6. This isn't brain surgery: Men don't always need the seat down, but women do.

Therefore, in a co-ed household, the seat should always be put or left down by whoever uses the toilet.

Thank you and good night.

:hurts:
rocktivity

[CTyankee]

86. Civility reigns!

I cannot for the life of me understand why a man would NOT put the seat down after using the toilet...it defies my sense of right and wrong...

[Vincardog]

8. This discussion overlooks one important detail:

How do you write your name in the snow while you are sitting down?

[smokey nj]

81. If a man is sitting in snow to pee, writing his name is probably the LAST thing on his mind.

Can you imagine the shrinkage? :wow:

[mwooldri]

89. Answer: Use a really long catheter. nt

[Historic NY]

9. Thank God the cave man/women didn't have these problems....

[unpossibles]

10. Having been raised by women (which is kind of like being raised by wolves)

I always put not only the seat down but the lid. In fact, I get annoyed when people leave either or both up. It seems to be too common and frankly who wants to leave the toilet open where things can fall into them? Plus, that makes it egalitarian as EVERYONE has to lift the damn lid when they use it.

[snagglepuss]

73. Do I detect a note of bitterness? hmmm

:evilgrin:

[unpossibles]

105. no, actually

I really do prefer the lid to be closed, yet find it amusing when women complain about men leaving the seat up yet leave the lid up themselves. Not bitter (other than when I drop something into the open toilet), just wish more people had common sense and courtesy.

[Mz Pip]

12. For 20 years

I was the only female in the house. I still am but the the total number has decreased.

I gave up trying. I just became conditioned to check. :shrug: THere were much bigger things to fuss about.

[Silent3]

13. In our house, seat down and LID DOWN.

Male vs. female isn't important here at all. It's human vs. cat, keeping the cats from playing in and drinking from the toilet water.

[TexasProgresive]

47. That's our way too. Keeps the critters from drinking toilet water.

My wife and I have never understood this conflict that seems so common.

[JI7]

14. it bothers me when a guy has sprayed their piss all over the toilet

like it when everywhere but inside the toilet bowl.

[Huskerchub]

28. well, it bothers me

when women leave bloody discharge on the seat or rim of a toilet. And DON'T tell me it doesn't happen because I've worked in jobs where I've had to share toilet space and/or clean toilets.

[malaise]

15. We resolved years ago that it wasn't worth fighting

over a toilet seat. Different genders live in the house - check before you use it.

[Forkboy]

18. Sanity!

:)

[CBR]

37. The logical solution... nt

[Forkboy]

16. If you need it up, put it up. If you need it down, put it down.

Seems pretty easy. :crazy:

[Taitertots]

17. I always put the seat and the lid down

If I have to pick up a seat, the ladies can have to pick up the lid.

"The original question was from a woman who wondered why men insist on standing to pee"
Because you can pee standing up without taking your pants down.

Anyone stupid enough to sit down without making sure there is a seat behind them deserves to fall in. It is not like someone pulled it out from under them.

[tammywammy]

19. Yep, it's lid down for me.

It annoys me when people are visiting and they don't put the lid down before flushing. It's just one of my quirks.

[pipi_k]

27. It's not so much stupidity that causes unintentional dunks in the bowl...

I wake up in the middle of the night to pee. Like every two hours. Half asleep, having to almost run into the bathroom or else end up pissing all over myself, I've fallen in myself.

Even worse, a few times Mr P has unintentionally put the lid down in the master bathroom. Same thing...I am half asleep, running to try and make it in time, and end up nearly pissing all over the lid (and floor).


During the day, this is not a problem because I can actually see whether the seat and/or lid are down.

[Taitertots]

39. Why don't you turn on the lights?

I've woken up and had to pee before, I managed to avoid peeing on the seat.
I've woken up with diarrhea and still managed to get the toilet seat into the proper position.

[pipi_k]

53. You don't understand...

When I wake up to pee I can't stand there fumbling for the light switch. It's bad enough just trying to get to the toilet itself in time, and yes, I have peed myself on the way. A lot. Not fun. I'm just lucky it doesn't happen till I get to the (tiled) bathroom and not all over the bedroom carpet.

[quakerboy]

76. The converse of that

I once accidentally put the lid down. Then woke up in the middle of the night. And damn near snapped it in 2 as I tried to sit. Now I very carefully do NOT put the lid down.

[CTyankee]

30. A gentleman puts the seat down. Period.

[pipi_k]

32. He got the message after I taped a rather rude note to the toilet one day

and left it there for about a week.


Now he mostly pees sitting down.

Which sorta works for him now at his age anyway.... :7

[malaise]

46. Sorry I disagree

We don't put it up for them do we?
Check it before you use it - it's a non-event.

[CTyankee]

85. This is how I was raised so it matters to me.

I am always somewhat shocked when I find the seat not down...or when aim has not been taken properly...

[Warpy]

20. For hygienic reasons, the seat and the lid should both be down

when the toilet is flushed because as it flushes, a plume of aerosolized water and bacteria is ejected as much as five feet above the rim, to settle elsewhere around the room.

Considering the toothbrushes are in close proximity to the toilet at the sink, it's a wonder both sexes haven't realized that not closing the commode results in their brushing their teeth with ejected shit.

That should be the end of the argument right there. Both sexes need to close the damned thing when it isn't in use and the dog's just going to have to learn to drink out of his water bowl.

[tammywammy]

24. And that's the exact reason I keep the lid down

I also keep my toothbrush in a cabinet. I read that about the bacteria when I was probably 10/12 years old, and I've been a lid down before flushing since.

[pinboy3niner]

29. Right on, Warpy!

And even for those who don't get the importance of "lid down," males putting the seat down is a basic act of consideration and respect for women. In our own homes, that's presumably women we CARE about.

[MineralMan]

23. My mom explained to me when I was a little boy. She said,

Who wants to look at an open toilet? When it's not being used, the lid should be closed. That made sense to me at 6 years of age, and it still makes sense today.

I'm just as annoyed at women who leave the lid up as at men who leave the seat up. I don't want to look at an open toilet when I'm just coming into the bathroom to wash my hands or brush my teeth or take a shower.

Besides, it's unsanitary. When you flush a toilet all sorts of stuff gets aerosolized. Not nice. Not healthy.

And we won't even mention various stains and streaks.

[Marr]

26. I find that if you just look where you're pointing your wang, it's a non-issue.

I haven't put the seat "up" in years. Maybe we need more marksmanship training or something.

[pipi_k]

31. There are times when I wonder if some guys are trying to drown flying insects in the bathroom....

Honestly...pee stains on the ceramic tile like six inches away from the bowl.

And I have one of those "black light" things for detecting bodily fluids...pee stains show up on the WALLS surrounding the toilet cubicle...

WTF are guys doing in there? I can't even blame it all on Mr P, as those stains happened after we had like three other guys here one day...

[Curmudgeoness]

36. Oh god, please, do not give me a black light thing!

This would be mortifying. What I don't know won't hurt me.

And yes, at times, guys are trying to drown flying insects. Just because they think they can.

[pipi_k]

54. It's cool and disgusting at the same time...

on the box there are pictures of various stains and what they look like under the black light.

I sometimes go around the house and see what's lying around on different surfaces.

Although, like you, I'm not sure I'd want to know what's on (or in) a motel or hotel bed....

Especially after having slept in plenty of them in years past. :scared:

[quakerboy]

78. Keep in mind that a lot of things show up under blacklight

back in college we learned that various soaps fluoresced under black light. Water bottles with a little soap make for a neat decoration. Also Highlighter, for a variety of color. A good number of dyes and chemicals show up, including many household cleaners. I vaguely recall that at least some brands of bleach show up as well.

[pipi_k]

95. Oh, I'm finding out lots of cool stuff...

False teeth (mine, anyway) turn green...

And you can tell that a diamond isn't high grade if it fluoresces under black light. I have a ring with about 30 tiny diamonds in it and only two of them fluoresce. My engagement ring doesn't.


Another cool light show is with those little laser toys for pets. I like to take one and shine it on my diamond and watch the light go crazy inside, bouncing all over the place.


Pipi, the easily amused... :7

[uncle ray]

50. there are a number of medical reasons a man may not control his stream well.

the same may be the case for women.

[pipi_k]

55. What, you mean like there's a hole in the side?

I actually did know a couple who had a little baby with that problem, but they had it fixed.

That's about the only thing I could imagine that would cause a man to pee all over the walls that are at least 12 inches away from the toilet itself.

What I'm thinking, probably quite uncharitably, is that guys are peeing OK, but shaking the things off like a dog trying to shake a rat to death.

[snagglepuss]

74. LOL "shaking the things off like a dog trying to shake a rat to death."

:rofl:

[Gaedel]

80. Old sayings

"No matter how much you shake and dance
"The last two drops go in your pants"


"No matter how much you shake your peg
"The last two drops roll down your leg"

[pipi_k]

96. And it gets worse with age, I suppose...

but I've always wondered why men don't just dab the end with a bit of TP...

??

[uncle ray]

97. an enlarged prostate for example.

kidney stones, etc. it is not always point and shoot. an interrupted stream from a few feet up can have a mind of it's own.

often men get blamed for the urine at the front of the toilet, which is actually from a woman who sprays forward, hitting the rim and dribbling down the front of the toilet to the floor.

most of us have no problems, some do, regardless of sex. both sexes also have those who are plain lazy assholes. what you assume is the latter may be an embarrassing medical condition for one of those men.

[pipi_k]

103. Well, of the guys who had been to my house that day...

I have been to their homes, and never saw any evidence of pee problems there.

The urine at the front of the toilet was on the floor six inches to the left...and the walls with urine on them are also at least 12 inches away from the side of the toilet, so I know it's not women doing it.

[MattBaggins]

107. The dreaded double stream

If a man had an overly exciting dream he may have a plug stuck in the tubing such that his urine will come out as a split stream, a shower head or just come out of the side at an angle.

It happens

[Curmudgeoness]

109. I am sorry I had to go to bed too early last night. I missed

a lot of your great comments. I never thought that I would enjoy a thread in GD so much. And good for you for holding up the woman's end of this discussion. Men!

And all that "it is women who are responsible for pee on the rim"---I live alone, I do not have that happen here. Unless there has been a guy around. LOL, thanks for your hilarious comments.

[Buns_of_Fire]

84. Not flying insects -- it's those little paper boats some drop in the bowl so they can sink 'em.

Some apparently think it's more sporting (to the boats) to attack from across the room. Unfortunately, by the time the range and elevation are adjusted for maximum effect, they're out of ammunition.

I've seen one of those black light thingies used once, in a rawther upper-crust hotel room. After seeing that, I decided I'd rather not know where the previous occupants managed to deposit their Precious Bodily Fluids. :scared:

[pipi_k]

98. I've read that some men teach their sons to pee in the toilet by

throwing in some Cheerios for target practice.


This could get pretty interesting at breakfast time if the dad doesn't fully explain the difference between a toilet bowl and a cereal bowl....

[Buns_of_Fire]

102. It would explain the origin of the well-known phrase, though!

;-)

[rug]

33. You can't aim sitting down.

[WinkyDink]

34. Hello? "The ability to pee standing up" is also shared by women! And no GENTLEMAN would ask a

woman to TOUCH A TOILET SEAT! SO PUT IT DOWN!

[Cirque du So-What]

38. Seat down, lid down - especially during a flush

Flushing is an energetic enterprise, creating an aerosol mist that diffuses throughout the bathroom atmosphere. These microscopic particles settle on any available surface - including contact lens cases and toothbrushes. I like to keep my exposure to aerosol poo to a minimum. I'm just funny that way.

[Contrary1]

43. Invest in a really plush toilet lid cover.

The lid won't stay up on its own. Problem solved.

[msanthrope]

45. My mother has one with a crocheted rose on top.

So when her son-in-law--my husband, first tried using her bathroom, hilarity ensued.

He sits at my mother's house.

[pipi_k]

56. Hee hee...a toilet tank anomaly caused

lots of male consternation before it got fixed...

the toilet in the main bathroom was too close to the back wall and the tank top stuck out in the front to such an extent that the seat wouldn't even stay up on its own. Guys had to pee one-handed.

But it somehow got fixed when we installed a "toilevator" and the tank is now away from the wall and the seat stays up.

curses!

:mad:

[fishwax]

44. Guys should put it down (common consideration) and women should check before sitting (common sense)

Both parties, though, should really put the lid down before flushing.

[TheKentuckian]

48. I grew up with all women so I'm long since beaten down but I believe

they want to flop down with reckless abandon and are prone to falling in if the seat is up and nasty consequences if the lid is down.

Just a theory.

[Karenina]

49. I won't share bathrooms with non-compliant men

Read: !COURTEOUS! and determine such things before investing too much.

[WolverineDG]

51. Actually, everyone should put the lid down before flushing

otherwise, all kinds of shit (literally) gets sprayed all over the bathroom. Fecal matter on your toothbrush, anyone?

dg

[pipi_k]

57. that's actually true, so I've heard...

toilets can literally spray up to six feet away when they're flushed


although, you know, I've also heard that most toilets are actually somewhat cleaner than the average public telephone (of which there are not many these days)...or even the sponge or rag used for wiping kitchen counters, etc.

[WolverineDG]

59. yes, you do have to sanitize kitchen sponges & change them often

you should also have one sponge for the bathroom & one for the kitchen.

dg

[pipi_k]

99. I use rags in the bathroom anyway

no chance of getting them confused with kitchen sponges.

Also, I have a separate sponge for people dishes and one for dog dishes. Counters get wiped down with a Shamwow.

[apples and oranges]

108. How can you ensure that your load was completely flushed?

Or should we wait for our date to walk in and get a surprise?

[WolverineDG]

110. Your choice to brush your teeth with fecal matter

You can always do a quick check before guests come over. :eyes:

dg

[distantearlywarning]

52. It's a hygiene thing in our house.

Seat down, lid down, every time, before anyone flushes. And that way everyone has to lift something before going and put something down after they go - it's very democratic.

Several reasons for this:

1) Flushing the toilet with the lid up is disgusting. Nobody of either gender in this house wants aerosolized piss and poo all over their toothbrushes, lotion, contact stuff, towels, etc.

2) Leaving the lid up and letting the cats play with the toilet water is disgusting. Nobody of either gender in this house wants to pet a cat who has been playing in the toilet.

3) Looking at an open toilet is kind of disgusting too.

[Biker13]

58. Final Word...

Seems God was just about done creating the universe, but he had two extra things left in his bag of creations, so he decided to split them between Adam and Eve. He told the couple that one of the things he had to give away was the ability to stand up while urinating. "It's a very handy thing", God told the couple, "I was wondering if either one of you wanted that very ability."

Adam jumped up and blurted, "Oh, give that to me! I'd love to be able to do that! It seems a sort of thing a man should do. Oh please, oh please, oh please, let me have that ability, It'd be so great! When I'm working in the garden or naming the animals, I could just stand there and let it fly. It'd be so cool, I could write my name in the sand. Oh please God, let it be me who you give that gift to, let me stand and pee, oh please..." On and on he went like an excited little boy who had to pee.

Eve just smiled and told God that if Adam really wanted that so badly, that he should have it. It seemed to be the sort of thing that would make him happy and she really wouldn't mind if Adam were the one given this ability. And so Adam was given the ability to urinate while in a vertical position. He was happy and did celebrate by wetting down the bark on the tree nearest him, laughing with delight all the while.

"Fine," God said looking back into his bag of leftovers. "What's left here? Oh yes, multiple orgasms..."

Biker's Old Lady

[JanMichael]

60. Clean up the splatter or STFU. nt.

[Silver Swan]

61. My daughter, when newly married

asked me why it was much harder to keep the bathroom clean with a man in the house.

I commiserated, but I think I might have made her look forward to widowhood.

[MellowDem]

63. The "put the seat down" is a remnant...

of the whole "gentleman" bullcrap of yesteryear. Why don't women always put the seat up, just in case their "gentleman" has to relieve himself? Obviously, she is no "lady".

As others have said, just look before you sit, or pee if you are a guy. And yes, it is more convenient sometimes to stand to pee instead of sitting for thirty seconds just to get up again. When I'm tired, the last thing I want to do is sit down, cause I won't want to get back up. And in terms of public restrooms, standing up to pee has so many advantages I don't know where to begin. Ever seen lines for men's and women's bathrooms? There is one... speed. Also, hygiene. Anymore, most urinals don't even require you to touch anything, much less sit down. If the only thing I have to touch is my zipper, that's pretty freakin' awesome.

[snagglepuss]

75. LOL. "the last thing I want to do is sit down, cause I won't want to get back up"

[krispos42]

64. Because dropping my pants every time I pee means I will lose things

Cell phones clattering all over the tiles, usually. Pocket knives. Occasionally a wallet.


And it's no fun when you're trying to pull your pants up and one of the pockets in your khakis has flipped outside of the waist, dumping change and keys and such out.

I don't carry a purse; my stuff is on my belt or in my pockets.


Unzip, unlimber, evacuate, limber, zip, flush. If you have a couple of errant drops, wipe'em up with tissue. And close the lid so things don't fall it.

[proteus_lives]

65. I keep the lid down because I have a towel rack over the john.

Don't want anything falling in.

But in pasts residences, I never really paid attention.

Except for one, when I lived with a lady for about 18 months. I quickly learned to check.

[TorchTheWitch]

66. I can't even understand why people don't keep the LID down

There's a lot of very good reasons that toilets have lids including hygenic, pets drinking out of the toilet and dropping things into it accidentally, but the most common sense reason is why the fuck would anyone want to be able to see into the place they dump their excrement every time they go into the bathroom?

[Vickers]

68. Reason #1 why I pee in the yard. n/t

[niyad]

77. reminds me of a very old joke-- god is talking to eve and adam in the garden of eden, and says

"I have two gifts left in the bag, and each of you gets to have one. the first is the ability to pee standing up. which one of you wants that one?" adam says, "oh, I do, I do. imagine--I can pee anywhere I want, write my name in the snow--all kinds of really cool things. oh, please, can I have that one???" eve smiles indulgently and adam gets the gift. then god looks in the bag to see what is left for eve, and says, "oh yes, multiple orgasms". . .

[Codeine]

79. I live alone, but I learned to urinate sitting down

when I got my junk pierced. A Prince Albert can make a stream of pee quite unpredictable, and I like to keep my bathroom spotless. The last thing I want is piss dribbled all over the rim or the surrounding tile. At least when a date comes over I know that it won't be my toilet that scares her away. :D

[cbdo2007]

87. I strongly side with the women on this issue - there is nothing more disgusting than guys standing

up at their house to pee in the toilet.

First, it splashes all up on the floor and on the seat and all over their feet and shoes. Then, they walk around the house tracking their pee everywhere.

Second, is if we're all having dinner or something and a guy goes in to the bathroom we can all hear his pee going in the toilet water and it is the GROSSEST thing ever!!

I'm a proud male pee sitter.

[pipi_k]

100. Speaking of sound effects...

If I'm in a bathroom where I know people are going to hear something, I make up a small wad of TP and hold it right underneath and pee on it, sort of like a paper sponge.

The other thing, which is sort of a disadvantage of peeing sitting down is that, for some reason, it bends the intestinal tract in such a way that farts are more prone to accidentally come shooting out.

That's one of my biggest fears when using a public toilet or one that's in an area where people can hear. And to make it worse, some bathrooms have an echo...

Something like that happened to a poor woman who used the bathroom during a 12-Step meeting in the basement of a church. We were broken up into groups, and it was relatively quiet as each group listened to one person speak at a time. This woman goes in the ladies room to take a pee, and next thing we hear is "PTTTTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!" Very loudly. It took willpower for lots of people to avoid falling on the floor in hysterics.

[blueworld]

88. do we need a separate thread for toilet paper vs. drip dry? LOL n/t

[pipi_k]

104. Yes...and when we're done debating that, we can argue about "over" vs "under" toilet paper rolls

:7

[Arkansas Granny]

92. I live alone so it's lid down all the time at my house.

When the kids were home there were 3 males and 2 females in the household. You learned to check.

[dipsydoodle]

93. Reminds me of : Panic At Convent

Toilet seat found up. :rofl:

[Scout]

106. EVERYONE put both the ring and the lid down (don't forget to flush!) problem solved. n/t