In further defense of Harry Reid...

[TreasonousBastard]

anyone here actually run for office, or been a significant part of a campaign?

Fercrissakes, he's talking to a bunch of Nevadans who he's been polling for months and whose emails he's been reading. It's a safe and meaningless comment, except for those "professional leftists" who have to get their panties in a knot over everything except maybe actually winning an election.

Whatever he says has absolutely no bearing on whether or not the Cordoba Center will be built, or where it will be built, but it gets him out of the line of that particular bit of campaign fire.

Isn't there SOMETHING to talk about besides this kind of thing?

(If someone were to get their news from DU, absolutely nothing good has ever happened in our lifetimes. It's all bad, and we are doomed.)

[babylonsister]

1. Thanks for the logic; you

disappointed a lot of people. :party:

Yes, here's something. Rethug Muslim Americans are pissed at the gop, and rightly so. How's that?!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x413161
GOP's 'Ground Zero Mosque' Rhetoric Prompts Pushback From Muslim-American Republican Operatives

[Jim Sagle]

2. Fuckin' A. The Cordoba First Left is numerous only on this and similar sites. Fuck 'em.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

12. Is that a reference to the Cordoba Initiative?

I honestly cannot tell what is being dismissed here.

Is there an element of the left that is primarily supportive of the Cordoba Institute above other causes or is this just a new slur of the left as being soft on Islam... which would be pretty horrible.

I know only a little about the Cordoba Initiative. Is there something I ought to know that marks the project/organization as something very bad?

[Jim Sagle]

16. I haven't studied it closely but I'm not wild about the idea.

I know they have a right to build this structure there but I don't have a good feeling about it.

But mostly I think the insistence that some Democrats have in lecturing fellow Americans on tolerance over this will not end well.

[Fumesucker]

3. You reiterated my point exactly..

Political power is the only thing that counts, principles can't and don't vote.

[gratuitous]

4. Yep, Reid should give Nevadans a clear choice

Between full-on batshit crazy Republicanism or Reid's own imitation thereof. As we will see in Arkansas, voters prefer the real thing to Democrats' thin broth. This probably won't hurt Reid, except to buttress his reputation as someone who can't be counted on to fight for American principles. Because when push came to shove, he turtled and told some Americans that their rights aren't worth it to him. Today it was Muslims, property owners, and Americans who take the First Amendment seriously. Tomorrow, it could be you that the Senate Majority Leader deems insufficiently meaningful in his pursuit of re-election.

Good luck.

[GodlessBiker]

5. So, he's lying? He really doesn't believe what he's saying? Anything else he has said which....

we should know he doesn't really believe?

[priller]

6. It's the same old wishy-washy, try-to-have-it-both-ways BS

that Dem consultants apparently think is wonderful but actually is kind of meaningless and not helpful at all politically. The GOPers don't care what he says, they'll be against him anyway; and the Dems are dispirited because he serves up another mug of weak brew; and the independents are left scratching their head, wondering if he really believes in religious freedom or not.

[Raineyb]

7. There is no excuse for Harry Reid. He's a feckless, worthless coward and he needs to stay the fuck

out of the business of my city. He can fuck off. He might try running on his own record if he didn't have such a reputation for being so god-damned spineless.

[spanone]

8. i cannot defend a person who throws away contitutional rights to keep his job.

[yellowwood]

9. Integrity

I wonder if he knows the meaning of the word.

[demmiblue]

10. Unrec

[mmonk]

11. I have principles so I can't really understand.

[TheKentuckian]

13. How does a lack of convictions on our most basic principles from a US Senator not mean anything?

A real American, much less a Democrat, should be ready to go to the wall defending our ideals.

This is a slope to be resisted at all costs.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

14. It wouldn't be "sensible" for Democrats to stand up to bigots if it costs them votes.

Tsk, tsk, what would happen if they actually stood for something other than getting elected?

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. I prefer politicos to stand for things like this

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Like for real. But that is just me.

[rucky]

17. If we ever want anything to change in this country

we have to stop thinking like this.

[asdjrocky]

18. Which is why you can't trust politicians.

They tell you what you want to hear, not what you need to hear.

[JustinL]

19. So he's not a bigot, he's just pandering to bigots to get votes?

I'll tell you something good that's happened in our lifetimes. Friday night, when our President courageously stood up to bigotry. Harry Reid's statement was a contemptible act of cowardice.