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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 06:08 PM Original message |
It's war: L.A. Times to publish database of individual teachers' "effectiveness ratings" |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. I would like to see LAUSD teachers whose so-called "effectiveness ratings" |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 06:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I was thinking the same thing |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 06:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I don't think they'd have a case |
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earthside (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 06:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. I agree with you ... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. the so-called "effectiveness" rating isn't public data & doesn't exist as such. |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 07:59 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. And how does the analyst get that data? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 08:04 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. i don't think so. they'd do it by the teachers' classes, not the individual students. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 08:10 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Don't know about CA, but here in my state test score data is reported by class |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 08:14 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Not like that here |
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DeSwiss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 11:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
41. Then ALL public officials should have their evaluations published. All. Of. Them. n/t |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 07:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. If the information is based on faulty use of data, then possibly. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 07:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. the information is already public. it's student/school test scores, mainly. |
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FreedomRain (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 08:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
33. school deform |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 08:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. Or faulty collection of data... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 07:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. The Times hired the analysis themselves. Not sure what data they're using, but the Times paid. |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 08:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
25. I think this is getting close to the point... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 08:23 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. I'd like to hear what a good lawyer has to say about it. nt |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 11:20 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. So would I. n/t |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
3. I read that LA Times article yesterday and about vomited |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 06:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. In sports the coach is fired. But under Obama, the players are all fired and the coaches kept. (nt) |
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XanaDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
5. Why anyone would want to be a teacher anymore |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 06:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. no problem. plenty of h1b's from the philippines available. & turks! |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
8. All of this teacher-bashing seems so contrived to me. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 06:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Administrators need to take some responsibility, also. (nt) |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 06:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. I agree. |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 06:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. I agree. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 08:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
36. And paid less. |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
10. Too bad we couldn't publish a similar study about journalists |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 06:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Would not make any difference |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 10:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
39. Surely we could publish luminescence ratings |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
12. As someone who taught in a public school for a few years |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 08:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
30. That wage goal is... |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
19. how can this be? isn't that from teachers' personnel file? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 07:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. no, it literally doesn't exist. The Times is paying a RAND analyst to invent it. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. hopefully, the union files suit to stop this |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Just posted on Facebook: |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 08:11 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. smoking gun. the demon spawn of citibank strikes again. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 08:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. that's worth an OP of its own: Gates Foundation funding LA Times teachers' "effectiveness ratings" |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 08:47 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Here: |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 08:54 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. i'm not a facebook member so i'm not seeing what you're seeing. are there |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-16-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Just the links I posted |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-10 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
42. k & r |
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