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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-10 12:22 AM Original message |
Arne Duncan thinks it's great for L.A. Times to release teacher data publicly. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-10 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
1. Here's the LA Times article cited in your link. It's an interesting read. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-10 12:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I am for merit pay evaluation of teachers, but not by way of standardized tests |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-10 12:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. But that is reality now. |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-10 08:10 AM Response to Reply #2 |
20. I wish someone would undertake investigations on whether constant standardized test preparation |
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suffragette (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. There looks to be a growing backlash in the UK about standardized testing |
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chervilant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 07:26 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. Well, well, well... |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 07:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
44. It does. Especially for children who learn at different paces |
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blackspade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 10:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
46. If my kids reactions to them is any indication... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-10 12:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. This part about a teacher judged effective until the "test scores" |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-10 12:54 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. *I am quite sure most at DU now are all for the new reforms* |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-10 12:55 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Thanks, I won't. But the number is growing. |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
22. It sounds like you did as I did... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-10 12:52 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. no, it's actually boilerplate propaganda: "it's the teachers"! |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 05:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
33. Criminey. Why is this so hard to understand? |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-20-10 10:25 AM Response to Reply #33 |
48. A lot of this has to do with teacher education |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-20-10 12:07 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. There may be a problem with teacher education |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-20-10 01:58 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. 0 hours of statistics to become a lawyer |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-20-10 03:22 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. About what I thought. |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. What are the metrics which accurately measure teacher performance? |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 11:05 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Do you really want some education here |
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mike r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-10 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
3. LA Teacher's Union Leader Calls For Boycott of LA Times |
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JSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
27. The Union Leader doesn't want ANY evaluation of teachers at all |
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catrose (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 05:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
32. Union busting |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-10 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
5. This is wrong in so many ways. And where did Gates get his degree in education? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-10 12:47 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. And who gave this company the right to evaluate and judge teachers... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-10 12:53 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. and who elected BILL GATES head of education policy in the US. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-10 01:05 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. The oligarchs don't even bother to mask their power any more. n/t |
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Catshrink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 07:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
41. Where did Gates get any degree that isn't honorary? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-10 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
11. All judged by one test...paragraph. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-10 06:56 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. And will the LA Times print the comments with the scores? |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-10 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
14. Students aren't performing well to these standards. With gates involved |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-10 01:49 AM Response to Original message |
15. Duncan never had a real job in his life. He got them all through connections; he's a good lapdog. |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-10 04:12 AM Response to Original message |
16. What about parents? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-10 06:50 AM Response to Original message |
17. If you are choosing a career or course of study, don't pick teaching. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-10 11:54 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. No one should choose teaching as a career at this time. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-17-10 08:00 AM Response to Original message |
19. maybe this is the transparency we were promised during the past campaign. . . . |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 01:12 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Selective transparency. |
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montanto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
24. The message is clear: Teachers, |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 01:40 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. +1000 |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. I agree - this one is getting out-of-hand |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
28. There was a gentleman representing and defending teachers |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 04:06 PM Response to Original message |
30. Thought you might be interested in this one mads, from CSM. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 05:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Thanks. I just posted another CSM article on the topic. |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 07:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Blaming the teachers is sad and unfair. I will say I was |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
31. Mr. Duncan's background is basketball and in that arena, all the |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
35. Wouldn't this be an HR evaluation, and thus protected by privacy laws? |
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cjbgreen (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
36. Research |
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zenj8 (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
37. If the scores are used to evaluate teachers, |
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salib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
38. So when is Arne going have his "McNamara" moment? |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
40. Arne Duncan is President Obama's Secretary of Education. |
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Safetykitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
43. I would rather see the school board salary and perks published. |
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blackspade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-18-10 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
45. The assault on Teachers continues. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-20-10 10:29 AM Response to Reply #45 |
49. I would not advise entering teaching right now. Lack of respect is huge. |
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austin_democrat (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-19-10 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
47. My mom is a teacher outside of Houston... |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-21-10 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
54. Hey Arne, why don't you sew the red letters on the teachers' shirts and blouses personally? |
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