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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:02 AM
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Poll question: Who orchestrated the Wikileaks Rape Charge?
Edited on Sat Aug-21-10 11:06 AM by Kurt_and_Hunter
Who orchestrated the Wikileak Rape Charge?

I have no information or theory about the thing.

(Polls are to measure attitudes in a population, not to determine the reality of something.)
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:04 AM
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1. KKKarl Rove
he has much to lose from the truth.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:04 AM
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2. I think the officials in Sweden got a whiff of these
charges, smelled a rat or two or three, and dropped 'em so fast it made our heads spin.

The impression I get is that an interested party or parties wanted to avenge Assange's political involvement.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:05 AM
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3. Listening to the Swedish rep shuck, jive and stumble...
Amis were working with police, someone higher up in the gubmint said NIX. :tinfoilhat:
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:13 AM
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4. well. obviously. the curious part is .....
... wouldn't one expect that they would be a bit more ... shall we say... *sophisticated*? i.e. in the sense of "subtle".

Aside from the risk of discrediting the US gov't in the eyes of even the most trusting, it's difficult to understand what they thought they could accomplish by fabricating charges against so OUTLANDISHLY high profile a target.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:18 AM
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6. nope - dirt sticks, retractions not so much.
and this was a simple 'shot across the bow'. More to come.
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morillon Donating Member (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:21 AM
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8. Yeah, I worry what else will be thrown his way. n/t
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:31 AM
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13. OTOH, it might serve as a sort of inoculation. nt
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:18 AM
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7. The (presumed) ineptitude gives me pause
Edited on Sat Aug-21-10 11:20 AM by Kurt_and_Hunter
How hard is it to find a minor, get them near the guy and then have them maintain a story for a while?

To be dropped this hard would require a recantation or evidence that the charge was impossible (like not having been in the guy's presence at the time alleged)

???

So maybe not an organized thing.

(Think how many freeper types would do something like this unilaterally.)
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:25 AM
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10. the charge was impossible, or highly incredible, because there were 2 charges
2 charges filed in different jurisdictions, basically simultaneously.

I've heard of getting around, but...

If, however, Julian Assange was a witch, or a warlock as male witches are called, he could have simultaneously raped one accuser and molested the other in a different town. You have to admit he has a witchy look about him.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:30 AM
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12. A "witchy" look? In what way? To me he looks like....
...Bill Maher.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:35 AM
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Come on, he's one missed haircut away from this-
Edited on Sat Aug-21-10 11:56 AM by kenny blankenship


I say this Assange guy floats in water...like a DUCK.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:27 AM
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11. Wouldn't the prosecutors recognize the name?
Edited on Sat Aug-21-10 11:27 AM by Smarmie Doofus
Wouldn't red flags go off? Bells? Sirens?

Sounds like they all went off, but embarrassingly long after the fact.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 12:35 PM
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19. I think whoever made the charges
will turn out to be a bit loony, bigger question in my mind is whether they were used by someone else.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:15 AM
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5. Jagermeister
It's not the Wikileak Rape Charge, it was two separate charges in two different cities. Sounds like a couple of old friends met for a drink, or a dozen drinks, and agreed how funny it would be to charge a famous man, who would have a hard time defending himself since he's in hiding, with a heinous crime. The problem was that they got so plastered that night that they didn't agree which one of them was supposed to lodge the false claim of sexual assault, or else they agreed but one of them didn't remember. Anyhow, two charges were filed very close together in time in two different cities and that was probably the first clue the Swedish authorities had that they were dealing with false accusations.

God knows what would be going on right now if the two had stuck to the plan of only one of them accusing Assange of being a rapist.
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:22 AM
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9. CIA
Its funny how a couple Obama supporters bought it though in the other thread. I guess any tactics are acceptable and good to some, even outright lies, as long as it prevents embarrassment to the administration.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:35 AM
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14. I did notice. And it's not so funny.
This whole issue... in it's entirety.... makes some people keee-raaaazzzzy.

There are people here who wish that Assange was dead. And ....of course, Manning.

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:41 AM
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15. who says it was orchestrated?
Lets get the facts as slim as they may be.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 11:49 AM
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16. Two separate charges... clearly a coincidence
Edited on Sat Aug-21-10 11:50 AM by Kurt_and_Hunter
I understand your quibble with the word orchestrated... it has implications. I debated the phrasing with myself.

A lone accuser would still be orchestrating... He or she would be managing events so that other parties (the police) would arrest him.

In any event, at least two persons colluded -- two charges in different places both dropped like they were hot means conspiracy in the literal sense of the word.

Would "Who is responsible for the Wikileak false rape charge conspiracy?" have been better phrasing?

Maybe so.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 12:17 PM
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18. I don't know what happened yet
I am going to withhold from speculating on the motives of the accuser(s) until we know who they are.
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Vehl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 01:49 PM
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21. good point!


""Once is Happenstance. Twice is Coincidence. The third time it's Enemy action". "

^^ i think twice, for cases like these amount to enemy action
the chances of two people, filing a similar case, at the same time, are infinitely small, as you mentioned
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montanacowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 12:10 PM
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17. Assange may become next Dr. Kelly
don't think they are not planning something more for this guy - this obviously stupid charge was his warning - Ihope this guy has lots and lots of insurance information tucked away in case he decides to "off himself"
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-21-10 01:40 PM
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20. CIA
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