This is HOW the Mosque Issue SHOULD be handled by the Democratic Party:

[bvar22]

Thank god the Democrats in 1963 were not afraid to STAND UP for what is right.
Could you imagine if the FDR/JFK/LBJ Democrats had said,

"Yes. Vivian Jones has the RIGHT to enroll at the University of Alabama,
but she should NEVER do that because that would offend the "sensibilities" of all the racists in Alabama."

[WillyT]

1. They Don't Make Democrats Like The Used , LOL !!! - K & R !!!

:hide::evilgrin::hide:

:scared:

:shrug:

[WorseBeforeBetter]

2. And another.

"The "Little Rock Nine" are escorted inside Little Rock Central High School by troops of the 101st Airborne Division of the United States Army."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Rock_Nine

[WCGreen]

5. That was Ike...

They sure don't make republicans like that anymore...

[WorseBeforeBetter]

6. You're right.

I was approaching it more from the "it's-the-right-thing-to-do-regardless-of-party" angle.

[bvar22]

7. They sure don't make republicans like that anymore...

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children."
---President Dwight Eisenhower

Sigh.

[nashville_brook]

3. amen to that!

or, praise allah...or, whatever.

[nashville_brook]

4. delete/dupe -- damn hiccuping tappad

[dkf]

8. Except that we would be marching on people who have suffered the murders of their family members.

[bvar22]

10. Could you please clarify your statement.

Are you talking about the 98 American Muslims who died in the WTC at the hands of a 19 Saudi terrorists?

[dkf]

16. 98 doesn't matter. You can't assume that all Muslims support this.

Miss USA thinks it's a bad idea.

The only way to get a number is to ask family members directly. I'm sure if a sizable number are okay with it that would sway public opinion quite a bit. I would change mine.

[dflprincess]

18. How far away from the Trade Center site would be okay with you?

And do you want to measure from the closest spot of the WTC site or from where the towers stood?

Keith Olbermann pointed out that the proposed center is 2 blocks from the northwest corner of Trade Center property and about 5 blocks from where the Towers stood.

For that matter, do advocate tearing down the mosque that is already in lower Manhattan and not allowing Muslims to use the chapel in the Pentagon for their prayers? That chapel was built in the area of building that was destroyed on 9/11.

[hughee99]

9. Some Democrats were standing up to other Democrats like George Wallace. n/t

[Rage for Order]

11. You're right; the Muslims are so oppressed!!!

I mean, there are only more than 1 billion (with a B) Muslims in the world. I can see how people are running roughshod over them.

[bvar22]

12. That is not relevant.

Equal Rights and Equal Protections are non-negotiable.
There is no gray area.

[Igel]

17. Sure they are.

The main outcry in some circles is that some have said the mosque/center shouldn't be built. The response is that they should shut up.

"Dr. Laura" was shut up. She spoke. People didn't like it.

There's a loud-mouth church in Florida, IIRC, that wants to exercise its first amendment right to burn some Korans. They didn't get their burn permit--a local matter. As a national matter, people rather like that they didn't get a burn permit. It shuts them up, and that's the right thing to do. (Note: Next time somebody wants to burn a flag, they should first file for a burn permit.

In other words, here we have four instances of constitutional rights: one to build (in furtherance of religion) and three to speak. Again, there's a funny asymmetry. Some rights are to be protected--presumably with police present--if the people decide to protest or don't like it. Government's proper purpose is to stop the Nazis. At other times, however, the proper thing is to side with the Nazis that call for rejecting first amendment rights.

Equal rights and equal protection are utterly negotiable as soon as a Higher Cause arises. In modern times nobody's ever said, "I want to take away rights"; they always appeal to higher causes. Sic semper tyranni, to mangle a phrase.

[Karenina]

14. Erra... Yes, the majority Muslim nations have had the CIA overthrow

THEIR DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED GOVERNMENTS to install brutal regimes, just for starters. How about all that "Kick their ass, take their gas" stuff? How about American bi-partisan psy-ops latest foray down the rabbit hole? Sometimes I wonder HOW MANY MUSLIMS have been SLAUGHTERED in the last 2 decades at the hands of the American MIC. LOVED THAT SHOCK AND AWE VID!1! AWESOME11! :eyes:

[d_r]

13. George Wallace was a democrat then

[TheKentuckian]

15. I am troubled that our leaders do not have our espoused values written on their hearts

[krispos42]

19. Ruby Bridges, kindergardener, New Orleans, 1960

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As soon as Bridges got into the school, white parents went in and brought their own children out; all but one of the white teachers also refused to teach while a black child was enrolled. Only Barbara Henry, from Boston, Massachusetts, was willing to teach Bridges, and for over a year Mrs. Henry taught her alone, "as if she were teaching a whole class." That first day, Bridges and her adult companions spent the entire day in the principal's office; the chaos of the school prevented their moving to the classroom until the second day. Every morning, as Bridges walked to school, one woman would threaten to poison her, because of this, the marshals overseeing her only allowed Ruby to eat food that she brought from home. Another woman at the school put a black baby doll in a wooden coffin and protested with it outside the school, a sight that Bridges Hall has said "scared me more than the nasty things people screamed at us." At her mother's suggestion, Bridges began to pray on the way to school, which she found provided protection from the comments yelled at her on the daily walks.

<more>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Bridges

If it wasn't for the US Marshal's Service, this would have ended far worse that it did.