Paladino: "welfare recipients...get employment training and take lessons in "personal hygiene."

[Earth_First]

GOP and tea party activist favorite for Governor in New York Carl Paladino explained his comments in Rochester today:

stating, and I quote: "I don't have to clear it up"

“A certain percentage of the people that I'm speaking to do not have those skills. And they may need help with it.”

http://www.whec.com/news/stories/S1708538.shtml?cat=566

[Hannah Bell]

1. you stink, paladino. the rotting, fruity smell of corruption, personal hygiene can't fix it.

[Earth_First]

2. +1

I saw the local coverage of his explanation and this man makes me sick!

[bobbolink]

5. Perfect! I couldn't have possibly said it any better!

:applause:

However, what it takes is not only standing up to this smelly, corrupt poor person hater, but being vigilant about this in ALL states.

[Ken Burch]

10. Deodorant can hide the odor of a rotting soul!

n/t.

[Rex]

3. The idiot probably THINKS he means well and has good intentions

but I'm sure Hitler thought...OH NO...I just went there!!!! Hitler! Richy rich GOPers are all alike in that they have an inherent hatred for the poor and downtrodden. It would be voluntary until he decided to make it mandatory.

[Ken Burch]

11. And then, they'd just send the poor into the showers....

n/t.

[KittyWampus]

14. Actually, you're the one who looks like an idiot. What he's talking about are called "soft skills".

And a good number of America's population were not taught how to dress for a job interview, show up on time for an interview, handle the interview etc etc.

This subject comes up from time to time on DU and inevitably some DU'ers who do not have a clue end up attacking remedial job training that some people actually do need.

You don't come out of the womb knowing those things. And some people aren't taught by their parents.

[devilgrrl]

21. So people are unemployed because they don't dress right?

:crazy:

[uncommon]

36. Some of them, yes.

Edited to add:

That doesn't mean this guy isn't an asshole. And it doesn't mean poor = dirty. But a lot of people without means do not have a nice interview outfit and work clothes, that is true.

[pipi_k]

39. Sometimes, yes.

It's unfortunate, but true.

You don't walk into a relatively conservative office for an interview dressed in a leopard print skirt and halter top. You would be surprised at how many young women think that's OK.

Or show up with bright pink hair. Or visible tattoos.

Only a couple of examples...

[Hannah Bell]

24. oh, baloney. anyone getting welfare or other kinds of public assistance

is indeed being "taught" those skills -- mandatory classes.

and "personal hygiene" isn't about interviewing, it's about bathing.

some du'ers don't have a clue indeed.

[Lilyeye]

28. No clue indeed. The fact that some people here agree with this asshole is disgusting.

That bigot was implying that poor people are dirty. You will find bad personal hygiene within any class. To agree with an asshole that says otherwise is despicable.

[bobbolink]

32. You know, we could make a nice list of how well that fits in with slurs of the past.

Like, "blacks are lazy".

"Indian givers"

"Women are just golddiggers"

Yup, I'm sure we could make a very nice list that would show just how ignorant and hateful that whole "hygiene" crap is.

[butterfly77]

27. So I guess ..

they these people aren't being "politically correct"?

[The Flaming Red Head]

54. I had to take two days off from nursing school to go to a job skill training thing,

so I could qualify for food stamps even though I tried to explain that my class time was valuable and I was already getting job training. They taught hygiene, job skills etc and even suggested that we join a church to find a husband. What a waste of time. I stayed up all night two nights in a row just catch up from the time missed in school.

[Lilyeye]

4. What a piece of shit! It's truly sad that people agree with and vote for slime like this.

So now people on welfare have bad hygiene? My sister worked in an upscale hotel and she can give you some horror stories about the disgusting habits of some rich people.

[bobbolink]

7. Like the people in limousines who would stop at the building where I lived

after the bars closed at 2am, and get out and pee (and more) on the outside stairwell?

THOSE rich people?

Ah, yes, they are a charming bunch....

[Starry Messenger]

12. Truefax.

Plus a million.

[KittyWampus]

15. Yes, in fact some people need to be taught "soft skills". If they don't get them at home-

someone has to teach them.

[devilgrrl]

22. And who better to do that than Carl Paladino!!!

:puke:

[Lilyeye]

26. Sometimes I have to make sure I am on DU

[devilgrrl]

29. tell me about it!

:crazy:

[KittyWampus]

58. Apparently you are one of the DU'ers who live a bubble where everyone has Cleavers for parents.

[handmade34]

6. how 'bout

we just create good housing for everybody... might be old prisons, might be that 10,000 sq ft home owned by a couple that we could put 6 families in???



What the f**k is wrong with us??

[bobbolink]

8. Its a deal. YOU live in the prison, and I'll take the nice house.

[handmade34]

16. just need a good architect

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[bobbolink]

17. Like I said....that one is yours.

[handmade34]

18. this and a few acres is fine with me

[bobbolink]

23. So, you'll promote the prisons for someone else, the,, right?

Generous.

[handmade34]

35. Yes, and I will cheerfully

grow all the food that is needed for you in that big house and also for all those that live in the beautifully remodeled prison...

[Lilith Velkor]

44. Oh, you have a plantation! Isn't that precious?

:puke:

[handmade34]

45. ????

I believe we can and should create suitable housing for everyone... some people would be comfortable in a large house in the suburbs, some would be comfortable in an apartment or condo in a rehabbed old factory, I would be happy with anything right now since I live in hotels... I'm not sure what your point was

[Lilith Velkor]

56. That's not what you said earlier

You said you want a nice little plantation so you can grow some nice veggies for those other people living in an old prison. I wonder what made you change your mind.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

9. The People of the Abyss.

A book by Jack London, 1903, about the workhouses in London and the poverty.


http://london.sonoma.edu/Writings/PeopleOfTheAbyss/

[KittyWampus]

13. In fact, many people DO NEED TRAINING in personal hygiene, how to show up on time, be polite. It's

happened on DU several times where supposed liberals think saying this is somehow a slur.

It's a fact.

And the bubbles so many DU'ers live in don't include actual people who need these skills taught to them.

Those skills just don't manifest themselves out of nowhere. And if the parents can't or don't teach their kids, SOMEONE has to.

This is called "soft skills" and in terms of job training, it goes beyond people/communication skills and goes into stuff like grooming, comportment, schedules.

[devilgrrl]

20. WTF are you talking about?

:crazy:

[Hannah Bell]

25. it *is* a slur, and your repetition of "soft skill" doesn't "soften" it.

and for your & carl paladino's information, welfare recipients *already* have to take MANDATORY classes in resume preparation, interviewing, & a host of other skills.

As much as a full-time job's worth, depending on the state:

Step 3: Come into the office and ask for a Resource Specialist.

•They will assign you to attend Job Smart Workshops. You will need to attend 35 hours per week of the Job Smart Workshops.

https://www.worknetpinellas.org/wn/worknet_pinellas.php?f_page_id=75&f_main_page_id=13&f_sub_page_id=77


Not only that, but since the classes are only offered in designated locations, people living far from those locations (in our area, as much as 40 miles away over a mountain pass, 80 miles round-trip) ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE THAT TRIP 4 DAYS A WEEK IN THEIR WELFARE BEATER CARS, PAYING FOR GAS, CHILDCARE, ETC.

you have no frigging clue, you & carl. JUST BULLSHIT.

[bobbolink]

30. Thank you. I was hoping you would take that on.

Some toxicity is just so over the top.

It is enough over that it makes one suspect it is calculated to get one's goat.

:evilgrin:

[Scout]

33. funny how much poutrage there is over this ...

"A certain percentage of the people that I'm speaking to do not have those skills. And they may need help with it.”

emphasis mine. the above statement is true of many people, whether they are on welfare or not.

i'm with you on this one Kitty ... many DUers do live in nice little bubbles. i've worked with a few people over the years who really did not have, or else just did not give a fuck, about the soft skills and about hygiene! i work with community college students now, and OMG!

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[pipi_k]

40. I'm one of those people...

I never realized until I was in the 8th grade and a friend told me that I should have been using underarm deodorant. Because I smelled. And to make it worse, I was a highly anxious child who sweated constantly. Rivers of sweat would pour down from my armpits. I didn't smell myself, but obviously other people did.

I didn't know we were supposed to bathe more than once a week.


My mother never said a thing.

And that's only one example...


One of the main reasons I was never taught any of this stuff was because my father was an alcoholic and the whole family drama revolved around his drinking and there was very little time or energy left over for my parents to teach us what we needed to know.

And I was still learning stuff in High School...and after that...

People need to be taught, and if they aren't, they don't know, and they get teased, ridiculed and mocked.

Anyway, thank you for pointing this out. Too many people think it's a travesty to have to learn this sort of thing outside the home, or that it's rude to acknowledge that it happens...

[KittyWampus]

57. Pipi- my mother never taught me how to comb my hair. Enough said.

[Raineyb]

42. What condescending bullshit. People are not unemployed because they

lack those skill. Anyone who had a job but lost it because of the shitty economy already have those skills.

[pipi_k]

49. Someone who has worked in a job where meticulous hygiene isn't important...

but has gone to school to learn a different job (perhaps doing office work?) may indeed need to know that certain jobs require a different sort of hygiene.

[Raineyb]

52. Bullshit. Complete condescending and needlessly insulting bullshit

You think people who get dirty for a living don't understand the concept of personal hygiene? You agreeing with that shit says a hell of a lot more about you than this hypothetical worker. Really as if people looking for work don't have enough to deal with without assholes assuming they don't understand the concept of showers.

[pipi_k]

59. Well then I guess I never saw what I plainly saw...

Because I actually KNEW people who either didn't know, or didn't care, that another type of job required different hygiene.


But thanks for being just one more in a long line of people who have tried to tell me over the years that what I saw wasn't really what I saw.


:eyes:

[Greyhound]

43. What a surprise.

You defending an authoritarian parasite, I'm shocked, shocked I tell you...
:eyes:

[devilgrrl]

19. Pretty bold statement from someone who should thank NYS tay payers for his wealth

otherwise, he'd still be a smelly, jobless, loser.

[Hannah Bell]

31. paladino is evidentally too stupid & uninformed to be governor, since he doesn't

know new york welfare recipients already are mandated to take such classes.

the scumsack.

[Brickbat]

37. The CCC did this.

[Codeine]

38. I have young employees that need to be taught these things all the time.

Believe it or not some people just aren't aware that a shower is a daily requirement when working with the public, that clothes can only be worn once or twice, that 2:30 really means 2:30, that deodorant isn't just a quaint idea on television commercials, that you actually do need to brush your teeth, and that your boss really is in charge when you're at work.

I find myself teaching young people these things more often than you might believe; the ball gets dropped at home all too often. And if the state they leave the washroom in is any indication many of them don't even know how to wipe their asses.

[pipi_k]

41. Speaking of the washroom...

I can't even count the number of times I've come upon the most disgusting scenes in women's bathrooms.

Sanitary products...USED!!!....just thrown on the floor next to the toilet.


Not that I was taught how to dispose of them by my mom, either, but I did...thank goodness...read the packages to learn how to dispose of them properly. If you can't flush, wrap them up securely in TP and put into the appropriate receptacle.

[Roon]

53. I worked in a mall when I was a kid

and the women's bathrooms were always trashed way worse than the men's room. I always cleaned the women's room first to get it done and out of the way.

[Odin2005]

46. I know how to shower just fine, you Teabagger asshole!

[devilgrrl]

47. You need to tell a few others in this thread the same thing.

:crazy:

[Earth_First]

48. WOW! What happened here?!

:shrug:

[devilgrrl]

50. You tell me!

What it is... it smells.

[mdmc]

51. this is the guy who said that if you didn't look at porn, don't vote for him

:shrug:

[uncommon]

55. Ew, really?