What is it about Social Security that Republicans hate? And a solution.

[ThomWV]

The Republican Party is hell-bent on destroying Social Security - but why? Who's water are they carrying? What is it they hope to accomplish? Only two reasons come immediately to mind. The first is evident in the very name of the program they wish to annihilate, "Security". If workers have nothing to fall back on then they will be more dependent on their employers. A dependent workforce is a compliant workforce that will cut its own throat in the race to the bottom, to see who can win that endurance race to see who will work for the least. The more cynical among us might suspect the reason is less complicated. Business may simply object to having to pay its half. Remember, your employer matches your pay-in to the Social Security System dollar for dollar with every pay check that goes out the door. So it may be that the Republicans are simply serving their traditional base in trying to kill Social Security just to save employers having to pay in. That offers an interesting possibility for a trade-off. How about we double the cap and at the same time remove the employers contribution. There should be no net loss in income to the system, employers will be saved the cost of accounting for as well as paying into the system for each of their employees - something that small businesses should welcome, and all it would take is expanding the covered income by a little over a hundred grand.

[TheKentuckian]

1. Stop hunting for compromises with avarice and go for their throats

[Warpy]

2. I like the way you think

and compromise with Satan just never works out the way you think it will. Look what it did to health care reform, ripped the guts clear out of it and the bastards still wouldn't vote for it.

Fuck it. Get out the steamroller.

[ThomWV]

3. In a backhanded sort of way I thought I was.

[TheKentuckian]

8. Maybe, but you're trying to find a magic middle ground when they need to be gone to war on.

Who gives a fuck why they hate it?

I say every time they squeal that we give them something to cry about.

Let's tell the top 2% that the class was has officially been joined and we are out for blood.

[glitch]

14. I love it.

This appeasing (or collaborating, depending on the culprit) bullshit has gone on way too long.

[pleah]

9. That's what I've been saying!

:toast:

[Fire1]

4. "Double" the cap? How about "lift" the cap and make those

making over 100k pay ss taxes on all that they earn.

[CC]

5. They see cash money that is not

in their pockets and it is killing them that they haven't figured out a way to get their hands on it.

[Bitwit1234]

6. Any program that was conceived and put into force by

Democrats the republicans do not like. No matter what bill, what law, they will continue to try to defeat it, overturn it, marginalize it til the end of time.

These things help the poor and the middle class. They can't stand that. Now if the Democrats passed laws to benfit the super rich and big business they would love them.

[Demeter]

7. Why, Just ANYBODY Can Get It!

It's not a WASP suburban/rural privilege.

[Enthusiast]

16. I believe this is

a much more important issue than anyone will admit. If social security was restricted to "white people" there wouldn't be a problem with it.

[ShamelessHussy]

10. It's easier to STEAL it when it doesn't have so many public regulations around it

put it in the stock market and they won't need to spend so much on their lawmakers to get their hands on it, or explain where all the money went, once they spend it.

a much cleaner system, if you ask the elite.

[old mark]

11. Actually, FDR got a lot of support in congress from republicans for Social Security -

this was back when there were actually "moderate" republicans, not the idiotic clowns we have now.
They hate it because it's a "big government" program...they lie about it and say it is not solvent, or is in danger and badly needs the GOP to "fix" it by giving all that money to their friends in the stock market and banking rackets. THAT would certainly fix it.

mark

[Skittles]

12. it helps the "little people"

that's all it takes

[guruoo]

13. Same motivation drives them to oppose healthcare, and job creation programs...

This is what it's all about, folks...

"If workers have nothing to fall back on then they will be more dependent on their employers.
A dependent workforce is a compliant workforce that will cut its own throat in the race to the bottom,
to see who can win that endurance race to see who will work for the least."

[glitch]

15. Their current motivation is they've stolen it and they don't want to pay it back.

Their previous motivation was they wanted to steal it and not have to pay it back.