Social Security - PAY IT BACK!

[scarletwoman]

We need to mobilize NOW. We need to arouse every working person we can reach with a strong and simple message. A message that says we will NOT tolerate the government telling us that our benefits must be sacrificed because they were stolen fair and square.

We can't afford to wait on the Catfood Commission's recommendations - we already know that they're salivating to screw us. We know this by the very fact that Social Security is even being considered in the first place as part of the deficit "problem".

The deficit was created by years of absurd tax cuts for the wealthy and the investor class, endless war, and bailouts for Wall Street. These all created massive shortfalls in the general fund, which were masked by an orgy of borrowing, including "borrowing" from the Social Security Trust Fund.

Now they want to weasel out of paying it back. They want all of us workers to take a cut so that they can continue to prop up tax cuts and war and Wall Street instead of honoring their debt to Social Security.

We absolutely must not allow this! We absolutely MUST tell them: Social Security - PAY IT BACK!

Make bumper stickers, pass out leaflets, staple posters on lampposts. Talk to people, stir them up. This is war. If we're not going to fight this, then we may as well just roll over and say "baaaa" -- because we will have then proved ourselves to be the dumb sheep that the Owner Class already assumes us to be.

sw

[earth mom]

1. Huge K & R! NO ONE is fighting FOR the People-it's up to us!

:kick:

[scarletwoman]

2. Thank you! It's up to us, no one in DC is going fight for us. There are millions of us,

if we moblize we can do this.

[earth mom]

4. Getting the word out is key. Flyers, bumper stickers, twitter...

:kick:

[scarletwoman]

12. Exactly. We need LOTS of visibility! And not just online.

I'm going to have some bumper stickers made - one for me, and a bunch to pass out to family and friends.

I live in a rural area, so there aren't any streetlights to plaster with flyers, but I hope urban dwellers will take up the battle and leave no possibility unconsidered.

[nightrain]

24. .....

there are some Social Security-related bumperstickers at cafepress.com

[mikehiggins]

79. cafepress shock

went to the site and was amazed at how many bumperstickers, etc., were righties.

There are a lot of these folks out there, apparently, and it may be past time to circle the wagons.

[nightrain]

80. nah, it certainly is more than 60-80% "don't destroy Soc Security"

do a search on bumperstickers and Soc Security.

You're spreading untruth.

[indepat]

3. If ever there were a call for mass mobilization to thwart the most hypocritical financial theft/scam

in American history, this is the time/issue. Each and every Democrat who would be party to this theft/scam in any way needs to know in no uncertain terms that the political backlash cometh with a heretofore never seen vengeance: out with every one of the rascals without exception, let the political extinction of DINOs proceed. :P

[scarletwoman]

6. Yes, this is the time and this is the issue.

But this is not about voting anyone in or out -- it's too late if you wait for that.

This is about pre-emptive action. This is about bringing the pols to heel NOW.

[indepat]

11. Now is the hour

:)

[bobbolink]

89. Well, it's also about the issue of the SS disability PURGE....

but we all know that isn't important, don't we?

Nevermind that there are DUers being cut, and many won't survive.

It just isn't sexy.

[elocs]

5. If you were a nation like China, holding billion$ in U.S. Treasury bonds

what would you think if you saw the U.S. not fulfill its obligations to its own citizens with the special SS Treasury bonds? Might you not be a little concerned that if the U.S. won't pay its own citizens that your bonds might not be worth what you believe them to be either?

[Yupster]

51. CChina has been reducing its US bond holdings for six months or so

I would think China wouldn't care what social security payout ratios were or retirement ages were in the US.

Why would they care?

Social Security obligations are whatever congress decides to pay out. It really has nothing to do with what is or isn't in any imaginary trust fund. Congress can change the rules anytime it wants to, and will change the formulas to whatever it thinks it can afford to pay out.

[elocs]

54. Why would they care? If the U.S. won't repay its own citizens, why would it repay them?

If I were them I would think about that.

[Gold Metal Flake]

7. Kick

When is the march on Washington?

[scarletwoman]

10. Well, we'd better get busy and work on it, hadn't we?

We start by building up awareness of this issue, and building a momentum of outrage. Just announcing a march won't do it, people need to understand the nature of the fight.

Just make it simple -- the government has been stealing our Social Security funds and we demand that they pay it back.

[Subdivisions]

47. . n/t

[ChiciB1]

85. THIS, IMO Is the ONLY Way We Will Be Heard! Yes, I KNOW Many People

think this type of action simply won't work, but I've called and written letters, only to be TOTALLY IGNORED!!

I have been critical of Obama for various reasons, but IF THIS HAPPENS, I think I'm almost ready to get in line for IMPEACHMENT!!

This is just TOO OVER THE TOP!! And HE doesn't look like he wants to do ANYTHING to stop this commission from doing what it wants to!! Geez, he let Simpson and his apology off the hook, and seems fine with what Simpson did!

I'm truly unraveling!!

[laughingliberal]

8. K & R nt

[laughingliberal]

9. Oh, and sign here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9027132

[scarletwoman]

13. Thank you. I've signed the petition. However, we're going to need a LOT more action than that.

We've got to make this issue highly visible on the street level, too.

[laughingliberal]

14. Yep. nt

[Poboy]

15. K&R

Oct 2 DC One Nation march for jobs gets support of AFL-CIO

During its Aug. 4-5 meeting in Washington, D.C., the AFL-CIO Executive Council issued a statement supporting the One Nation coalition and its October 2 Washington D.C. march for jobs. The AFL-CIO said saying we must fight the fear mongering and scapegoating that is dividing our country.
All of us have been dismayed, to say the least, by the failure of the Obama Administration to make more progress on restoring the economy, particularly in regards to job creation, fighting foreclosures and preventing further job losses resulting from budget cuts by state and local governments. We are frustrated by and angry at the obstructionism of Congressional Republicans.
Now, a new coalition (ONE NATION WORKING, TOGETHER) has come together to fight back on the jobs and the other issues necessary to save our economy. They have called for a March for Jobs on October in Washington, D.C. 2nd just two months away. On the same day, the union movement will walk door-to-door in targeted states around the country, mobilizing union members exactly one month before the fall elections.

http://talkingunion.wordpress.com/2010/08/05/oct-2-dc-one-nation-march-for-jobs-gets-support-of-afl-cio/

===

From the AFL-CIO website-



Protect and Strengthen Social Security

The dramatic decline in individual retirement savings and the disappearance of defined-benefit pension plans are powerful reminders of the importance of Social Security. Social Security remains the country’s single most important family income protection program. According to the National Academy of Social Insurance, Social Security provides:

A typical retiree with the equivalent of a savings account of $225,000.
A young worker and her or his family with a $414,000 disability insurance policy.
The family of a young worker with a life insurance policy worth $433,000.

Social Security Does Not Contribute to the Deficit
The recently constituted “National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform,” charged with coming up with proposals to reduce the deficit, has Social Security in its cross-hairs, even though Social Security has nothing to do with the long-term deficit. Social Security does not contribute to the deficit because it cannot pay benefits unless it has funds to do so. The Social Security trust fund is a separate segregated account with its own dedicated source funding—employer and employee payroll tax contributions. The Social Security trust can pay full benefits until 2037. And even if nothing is done, it can pay about 78 percent of full benefits thereafter.
But something should be done. Social Security should and can be strengthened for future generations with relatively modest adjustments and no benefit reductions. Furthermore, the bonds in the Social Security trust fund are as solid as all other U.S. Treasury bonds, which have been rated AAA since the existence of rating agencies. There is no precedent and little reason to believe that the United States will default on its bond obligations.

Get more information about Social Security.

http://www.aflcio.org/issues/retirementsecurity/socialsecurity/index.cfm

[BeHereNow]

16. K&R

You are, of course, correct.
Again.
I have to confess however, I don't know if ANYTHING
we do at this point will stop them from killing us all.
I think that is their plan and they have amassed enough
power and wealth to act with complete impunity.

As you know I have always said, it's not about defeating TPTB at this point;
it's about surviving them.

BHN

[scarletwoman]

20. I don't know what it will take, either. All I know is that I refuse to go down without a fight.

"Better to die on your feet than live on your knees."

[BeHereNow]

26. We agree- I don't intend to roll over either.

No one should- we should fight them until the last
man/woman standing.

I just fear that the battle is already decided
and let's face it- we are the minority.
The vast majority are apathetic and ignorant of anything
other than the MSM and what day Bristol Palin will
compete on Dancing with the Stars.

Hate to be a curmudgeon,
but at this point, I don't see anything
good on our horizon.

The exception being that I know there are
people like you on the planet and I am not alone.

BHN

[scarletwoman]

31. How many working people are there in the U.S.? That's how many of us there are.

This isn't a left/right issue, this isn't a partisan issue. Even a couch potato can understand getting ripped off.

That's our message to the people: the politicians in DC are trying to steal YOUR money, and we're not going to let them get away with it!

Cheer up -- we have the numbers on our side!

[bobbolink]

90. I would very much appreciate it if you would remember non-working people, also.

I realize we're not worth much, but we are also afraid of having our very breath taken from us.

[Blue_In_AK]

17. A big K&R

[scarletwoman]

22. Thanks, sister.

:hi:

[pa28]

18. The time to talk and raise public awareness is now.

Fast-tracked recommendations introduced during the lame duck congress will be very difficult to stop.

[scarletwoman]

25. Absolutely! The mobilization needs to happen now.

I keep thinking - we have all kinds of creative people among us. If we all focused our efforts on this one big goal, we ought to be able to move millions.

We have the tools, we have the brains, all we need is to FOCUS and start DOING.

[dkf]

19. If they had used the surplus to buy gold bars this wouldn't be a discussion period.

Ronald Reagans biggest scam ever.

[TheKentuckian]

21. Bring the heat and plant seeds like Keep your hands off my Social Security!!!

Drive up the negatives on the entire concept. Light and electrical posts and anywhere.

Go to a movie, leave some flyers. Chirp about it line at the store.

Put it up on your Facebook and put a message in your signature lines.

Put it people's faces and in the back of their minds.

[scarletwoman]

28. Thank you, that's EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

Niggle people's minds everywhere. There's no good reason why we shouldn't be able to do this.

Practically every worker in the U.S. pays into Social Security -- it's a HUGE consitutency, millions and millions of people.

Make the message simple and easy to understand: Social Security is OUR money - PAY IT BACK!

I want to build up a group of dedicated Social Security activists right here on DU, we have work to do.

sw

[pa28]

39. Nothing dissolves public apathy like a mugging.

The Simpson commission wants to get it's report in on time and the lame duck Congress will try to pass the findings quickly and with a very light tread mark. Their enemy is the clock so I suppose that makes time our ally if we can stretch it out long enough.

We need to find a few Congressmen and Senators willing for force debate, build public consensus against cuts and run out the clock.

I'm contacting my own Senator, Ron Wyden and sending a donation to Alan Grayson along with a request: There is no such thing as stealing the SS trust fund "fair and square". Don't let them do it.

If anybody can raise public awareness it's that guy. He's a human megaphone.

[Desertrose]

23. SS - IT'S OUR MONEY - PAY IT BACK!

Rather go out fighting than give up...

Good idea sw!

:hug:

[scarletwoman]

29. Thank you! Your slogan is perfect!

I really believe we can put up a damn good fight about this, and we need to get started NOW.

Please be sure to read TheKentuckian's post #21 above, he's got some great ideas.

:loveya:
sw

[Desertrose]

44. I got inspired.....

check your email......

:loveya:

[scarletwoman]

55. Thank you again!

I checked my email, but my rattletrap Flintstones computer couldn't open the attachment. :( I sent you an email back with more details.

:loveya:
sw

(edited to spell Flintstones correctly :P )

[iamtechus]

27. Good Bumper Sticker!

You can go to makestickers.com and design your own. I went there and

- selected a template from "PUBLIC ISSUES"

- and added the text "PAY IT BACK!".

Prices aren't too bad and you can save your designs and reorder.

[scarletwoman]

30. Thanks. Yes, I'm going to get a batch of bumper stickers made right away.

I'm also going to come up with a flyer -- short and to the point -- to print up and leave in public places.

When you're outgunned you gotta fight guerilla style. We can do this!

sw

[SammyWinstonJack]

32. I'm in.

PAY IT BACK! :grr:

[Laelth]

33. k&r for right action. Pay it back! n/t

-Laelth

[Flying Squirrel]

34. Baaaaa. (rolling over)

I'm not a dumb sheep, but I think I must be a sheep. Because I no longer believe there is any way for us to win. We needed an FDR and we didn't get one, and the opportunity is probably gone now. Next up: Fascism or bloody revolution. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[scarletwoman]

38. "We needed an FDR and we didn't get one..." We still have US.

Change has to come from the bottom up, not the top down. No one in DC is going to save us, it's up to us to do it for ourselves.

[LiberalAndProud]

35. Reading comments on the AARP website.

The first time anyone suggests it's time to fix the problems caused by our "suck-up where's my free lunch?"" attitide you cry FOUL!
I guess AARP will join the call to remove Sen. Simpson since he appears ready to really addres all the give-a-way (with taxpayer funds) policies of this Administration which is hell-bent on driving the USA straight in the toilet. If you are panicked by his words, I can't wait to hear your reaction when the Commission actual files it's report

Really? Free lunch? People believe this, huh? They haven't noticed that line on the pay stub that says FICA? What is wrong with some people?

[scarletwoman]

58. We've got work to do -- cutting through the misinformation & misperceptions.

And that's what I intend to do. I'm just getting started.

[ProgressiveEconomist]

36. K&R

[scarletwoman]

57. Thank you - btw, your Social Security OP was extremely useful & educational.

I'm really glad you're here on DU!

[Eyerish]

37. K&R

[Timbuk3]

40. Well Said!

If the bond money lent from SS can't be paid back because the US, scratch that, the GOP borrowed too much from China, screw China, not Americans.

If the bond money lent from SS can't be paid back because the GOP borrowed too much screw the wealthy, who are sitting on unprecedented amounts of cash, with higher taxes not the middle-class people doing the actual work.

If the bond money lent from SS can't be paid back because the GOP borrowed too much screw the corporations, not the workers who spend the money to buy the products that they need to sell to survive.

[scarletwoman]

59. We WILL fight this! I'm just getting started. (nt)

[G_j]

41. agreed

it's the final battle.

[scarletwoman]

60. Thanks, G_j!

However, I doubt it's the final battle, but it IS a battle we absolutely must fight!

:hug:
sw

[G_j]

62. in the sense that they have looted & plundered everything else

SS seems to be the last stand.

:hug:

[scarletwoman]

63. Well, methinks it's high time our side started fighting back in the Class War.

To arms! :patriot:

[sabrina 1]

42. It's machiavellian what they are trying to do.

They took our money, they used it to gamble with, and now they don't want to pay it back.

So, they want to cut benefits. When I asked someone today how that would help lower the deficit since cutting benefits would only increase the SS surplus which is in a separate fund and has nothing to do with the Government's Budgetary problems, I didn't get an answer. I asked if he was proposing taking more money out of the SS fund to give to the same people, HE said cannot pay it back. You would have to be insane to do that.

It's like robbing your grandmother to feed an addiction. Yet, Democrats have not come out strongly against it. And our president choose these people to deal with the deficit and is allowing them to tie two separate funds together and scare people into thinking that cuts in SS may be necessary.

Two Separate Funds! They have nothing to do with each other. SS did not create or even contribute to the deficit. So why is it even being mentioned at a Commission that is supposed to be dealing with the fund that is in trouble?

Great post, you are 100% correct. No one is fighting for us, we will have to do this ourselves.

I have been telling people I know what the facts are. So that they can tell others and will not fall for the lies we will be hearing.

We need to come up with some simple talking points. People don't want a lesson in economics.

K&R

[scarletwoman]

61. Great post! Thank you!

I'm working on a flyer. As soon as I have a decent first draft I'll post it on DU for feedback.

I have family obligations to attend to this weekend, so I probably won't be able to have it ready until Monday. I hope you'll watch for it and help with polishing it up when I post it.

Thanks for all your powerful posts on this issue!

:hi:
sw

[Faryn Balyncd]

43. K & R

:hi:



:kick:

[scarletwoman]

64. Thank you! You're one of my inspirations!

:yourock:

[The Magistrate]

45. Hear Hear, Ma'am

This is theft on a colossal scale, theft and betrayal that will turn this country into a ruin.

[scarletwoman]

65. Thank you, Sir, and well said.

I intend to fight.

:hug:
sw

[The Magistrate]

87. One More Element Of 'Let's Run Government Like A Business' Swill, Ma'am

Raiding and gutting pension funds has been a feature of business practice for some years now. Contracts mean nothing, apparently, when one party to them comprises working people.

[EFerrari]

46. K&R

These people have forgotten whose money they're dealing with.

[scarletwoman]

66. "These people have forgotten whose money they're dealing with." And it's high time we remind them.

Which is exactly what I mean to do.

:hi:
sw

[Subdivisions]

48. What do you mean by 'Pay it back'?

Are we assuming (or do we know for sure) that it has been stolen borrowed and we want them to pay it back? Or, are you saying that we want to be paid back what we've paid in before they can steal borrow it?

[scarletwoman]

67. Pay back what they've "borrowed" instead of telling us "So sorry, your benefits have to be cut."

[customerserviceguy]

95. Who's this "they" you talk about?

Congress and the various Presdents of all parties have borrowed it and replaced it with non-negotiable securities, which I call IOU's, for brevity's sake.

Should we raid the descendents of all the congresscritters who got us into this problem? It has a certain social justice to it, but it probably won't raise enough.

[Greyhound]

49. K&R

[scarletwoman]

68. Thank you, friend.

See you on the barricades? :)

[Greyhound]

88. Of course,always.This is an even greater robbery than those we've already seen.

That so many are falling for it is simply astounding. When both parties start making the same threats, you know they're planning to screw us.

[suffragette]

50. Stop siphoning Social Security - No more cuts

An image of the Siphon would help.
Or could use Slicing with a knife
or Cutting with scissors, etc

I think it's important to include "more" with this to show the reality that it's been getting cut for awhile.


Agree with you that clear and simple is most effective.

[scarletwoman]

69. Thank you for your input!

I hope to have a first draft of a flyer ready to post by Monday and I'll really appreciate your feedback!

:hi:
sw

[suffragette]

81. Dang, now I am going to need to buy ink for my printer

Lots of phone poles around here and I take the bus everywhere.

:evilgrin:

:hi:

[suffragette]

82. Dang, now I am going to need to buy ink for my printer

Lots of phone poles around here and I take the bus everywhere.

:evilgrin:

:hi:

[jeanpalmer]

52. The politicians are no different from Madoff

Like him, they took our money under the false pretense that they were saving it, but pissed it away. They left little bookkeeping entries that said "I owe you." And now that we're about to cash in these IOU's, the politicians are saying "we don't have the money, we spent it all, we're broke." When Madoff got caught, at least he didn't blame his victims. Not so with the politicians. Instead of owning up to their theft, they're trying to blame us, saying we're too greedy and we didn't pay enough. And they trot out their attack dog Simpson to reinforce the point.

And now they're saying "If you pay just a little more in taxes and accept just a little less in benefits, everything will be hunky-dory, and we'll only only have to tweak the system; and hallelujah we're saving you from the privatizers." What a line. What a deal. These guys/gals are much smoother than Madoff. They could sell ice cubes in Alaska. They possess an unmatched level of brazenness. Their gameplan obviously is not to play defense, but to go on offense, against us.

I wish I lived close to where these assholes are meeting in secret. I'd get a bunch of people together, go there, and yell out nonstop "where's our fucking money? where's our fucking money?" At least give 'em a sense of the impending revolution.

[upi402]

53. The Whitehouse forgave Simpson's sneering tell

we know how they feel about us... ALL of the 'theys' in power. Simpson just let it out.


"Where's our fucking opposition party?" -that's what I've been yelling for many years.

[scarletwoman]

71. Yup. Simpson made it crystal clear how the Ruling Class regards us - not that we didn't already know

The fact that Obama didn't boot Simpson tells me all I need to know about whose side Obama is on as well.

[ooglymoogly]

84. Our fucking opposition has been decimated

by folks like Rahm running pugs as Democrats; That is why nothing makes any sense and nothing adds up.

These Dino's in collusion with the pugs run congress for the corporates and neocons. Just watch how congressmen vote on vital issues vital to Democrats and the people of this country and do the math. Watch how '0' appoints commissions and who chairs them; Smoke and mirrors to do his dirty work as a Dino; To keep his cover and still look like a Democrat. A thing he is not, no matter who parses it.

Democrats are in the minority. The whole fucking shebang is just a kabuki dance ending in a bank of fog and confusion; A deceit to steal the Democratic seal to rubber stamp corporate legislation and give their calumny the look of bipartisanship as they shaft the people; With Democrats and the people of this country always the losers; Totally confused as to how this could be, how nothing adds up.

All just a Pug illusion by stealth using its most powerful weapons, treachery and deceit; Innate to the foundations of their "character".

It adds up, by adding up the Dinos and pugs Rahm et al. has recruited to run as Dems. Giving pugs a stealth majority.

[scarletwoman]

70. That's an excellent comparison! Well said!

Thank you for your wonderful post!

I mean to raise a ruckus, I am SOOOOOO fed up with this shit! :nuke:

[Jeffersons Ghost]

56. K&R

[scarletwoman]

72. Thank you.

:hi:

[orbitalman]

73. An Orgy is Right, alright.

I am sick of their arrogance and utter selfishness. These are people who don't have to worry about what retirement will bring who sit in judgement of governance. We may have to revolutionize. It's getting serious.

[JDPriestly]

74. Peter Orszag wrote a book entitled Saving Social Security

Has anyone read it?

From a website

http://www.whorunsgov.com/Profiles/Peter_Orszag

I read the following

In 2004, Orszag's work on Social Security caught the eye of Congress. Orszag and MIT Professor Peter Diamond developed a 75-year plan to erase the Social Security deficit that would increase payroll taxes from 12.4 percent to 14.55 percent by 2055, while also increasing the amount of payroll eligible for the tax from $90,000 to around $106,000. The plan, outlined in their book "Saving Social Security," claimed people at all income levels would receive more retirement benefits than what the system could afford in the future without any increase in taxes, although for high- income earners the benefit-expected-to-taxes-paid ratio would decrease.(5)
"The Social Security deficit can be eliminated only through different combinations of politically painful choices; tax increases and benefit reductions," Orszag and Diamond wrote.(6)

Reading this, I realized why I and so many others are so angry at Obama.

During his campaign in 2008, Obama stated his plan for securing Social Security very clearly: impose the Social Security tax on incomes over $250,000 per year with adjustments for two-income families. Americans heard that message and voted for it. I canvassed little old ladies in Ohio in the days before the election who were undecided but leaning toward Obama. They showed me that Obama's promise to secure their Social Security through imposing FICA taxes on the $250,000 plus incomes was what they liked about Obama.

But in office, Obama suddenly gets cold feet and names a Commission to propose something that he did not run on. How can we trust this man? He had an excellent idea and lost his nerve once he got into office.

So now I saw it and now I said it.

The problem with Obama is that we voted for him because of his ideas, because of the things he said while running for office. But now that he is president, he is not acting on what he promised.

Social Security is only one area in which Obama has let us down. We thought we were voting for a man with ideas and solutions to problems and all we got was a man who doesn't stand up for what he promised us he would do. He is not leading. He is following.

President Obama, just go back and listen to your campaign speeches and do what you promised. That's what we "professionals" on the left want. Just do what you said you would. Please! Please!

[BlueJac]

75. Pay it back or we throw you fucking out!!!

[scarletwoman]

76. To all:

My thanks to everyone who's posted on this thread, and to everyone who's recommended it.

I have to leave for the day, so I won't be around to post anything more for now. In any case, I imagine GD is going to be so chock full of Beck threads that this one will be essentially buried anyway.

However, I do want to let you all know that I'm just getting started on what I want to do to promote activism on this issue. This weekend I'll be pretty much involved in offline activities -- shopping and cooking today, and celebrating my dad's 84th birthday party tomorrow.

***Happy Birthday, Dad! A WWII veteran, lifelong union man and Democrat who got me started caring about politics and justice when I was just a kid.***

Meantime, I'll be working on a draft of a flyer that I hope to have ready to post here for feedback by Monday night.

See ya later!

:grouphug:
sw

[ChiciB1]

86. Thanks For Your Post & Your Work... We MUST Unite And Find A WAY

to stop this!! Our Democrats and ESPECIALLY OBAMA WH is about to cut the deepest cut yet!! What a betrayal!

I freely admit that I don't exactly know what is going to happen, but the mere fact that it's gotten so far, and has such support is extremely scary to me!!

Are they going to kick people OFF SS and/or Medicare/Medicaid?? I'm confused, but since I'm on Disability that's my ONLY income! This sounds like a betrayal on a monumental scale!!

[bluestateboomer]

77. K&R

[ooglymoogly]

78. KR very well put...Goodonya scarletwoman for keeping it real. nt

[TBF]

83. Word. nt

[femrap]

91. If there's any

issue that will get Boomers out in the streets, it will be the threat of not getting their money back.

All those fucking years of working and nothing back. No way!

[slipslidingaway]

92. knr n/t

[customerserviceguy]

93. Are you talking about the money in the IOU's?

Which way do you choose, cutting spending, raising taxes, or inflation?

If your answer is the middle one, good luck getting the coming Rethug and Blue Dog Congress to do that.

[sam sarrha]

94. the Bu$h43 tax cut to the richest 2%..responsible for 1/2 the national debt was meant to bust SSI..

Here’s why there is an Economic Crisis in this Country..

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html

Financial Wealth
Top ……..1% ……..Next 19%….. Bottom 80%

2007 …..42.7% …..50.3% ………….7.0%

the richest 1% possess 6 times the financial wealth of the bottom 80% Americans who also hold 74% of debt..

this is a symptom of Fascism.. the rich rigging the government to enrich them and screw us.. they didn’t get their wealth fairly. this is what the Tea Party should be protesting.. wealth redistribution thru campaign contributions..

1/2 the national debt is caused by a 2.5% tax cut to the richest 1.5% Americans, much of the other half is caused by them sending our jobs overseas to get even richer.. this was done only to destroy SSI for the elderly who paid their taxes all their lives… wake the hell up.!!

[earth mom]

96. So happy to see this thread on the greatest page today. Feels like the old DU!

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[Sherman A1]

97. K&R

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Had the exact same thought earlier today

[earth mom]

98. About the flyers-I think we should include info about SSDI-Social Security Disability Insurance.

It's just as important as Social Security if not more! TIA! :hi:

[scarletwoman]

99. I've left a post about this on Bobbolink's thread. (edited to add link)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=9034376&mesg_id=9036906

[earth mom]

100. Kick!

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[Michigan-Arizona]

101. K&R n/t