This fucking shit pisses me off! Where the hell is OUR rally? Why

[Subdivisions]

do these right-wing fuckers always get to be center stage? Where are our rallies? Who's speaking for us?

[YOY]

1. It's kinda hard to motivate your base when the press secretary attacks them...

and the chief of staff calls them "fucking retarded".

Just sayin'...

[Subdivisions]

4. The right-wing lunatics are kicking our asses. It's embarrassing. And while

they spread their bullshit around the country, we sit idle and allow them to poison more and more minds.

I just don't fucking get it.

[YOY]

18. We're playing right back into their hands.

Triangulation isn't going to work anymore.

That one I get.

[Skidmore]

42. We have at least half of us

pouting and kicking and screaming.

[LostinVA]

45. "pouting'?

[Skidmore]

52. Yes,. and I don't apologize for my choice

of words, especially if we don't have meaningful turnout at the polls this November. I've had it. We need to work together or you might as well hand the keys over now to Boehner and McConnell and help them sow the draperies. Then you can kiss any aspirations of further movement forward good-bye for a generation.

[YOY]

59. Oh no...don't apologize. Just remember it.

n.t.

[EFerrari]

68. Yes, that would be the half with a modicum of self respect.

lol

[greytdemocrat]

105. And you never will. n/t

[Dinger]

10. Exactly (nt)

[TBF]

19. Not to mention Arne Duncan firing half of them ...

[phleshdef]

33. Your comment illustrates exactly why you deserved to be insulted.

[YOY]

36. lnsult me all you want.. It won't change anything, whether you think I "deserve" it or not.

Sure hope it makes you feel better though...

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[YOY]

58. Regardless of what he called anyone like me, or what his actions speak louder than words.

There is nothing of great impact that will be accomplished on the current administration that is remotely progressive regardless of how many attempts to redefine it.

But please the "you are a petulant child" thing and assume to know what I think...by all means continue to insinuate it and please continue to act like it will motivate me. It's obviously therapeutic.

[phleshdef]

61. Nothing remotely progressive, lol. This is what I mean. I'm glad history will shit all over that.

[EFerrari]

66. And you would know what is remotely progressive, how?

LOL

[YOY]

73. Seems DLCers define any action taken regardless of how right-wing is "progressive".

and inaction is obviously not "progressive". By that definition the Republican's 1993 Health Care plan/Universal Romneycare/"Health Care Reform" is "progressive".

It has come to this.

Do nothing or do it a way that won't work.

What a choice.

[YOY]

71. Just like it did the Roman Empire...

n.t.

[EFerrari]

60. No one deserves to be insulted and that's how batterers rationalize their behavior.

[phleshdef]

62. Boy, a quick glance at just a handful of your own posts exposes massive hypocrisy there.

[EFerrari]

65. Boy, maybe your vision needs correction.

:)

[inna]

125. Un-Fucking-believable.

:wtf:

Have you no shame?

[proud2BlibKansan]

83. And yours explains why there is no rally of Democrats in DC today

[inna]

127. what a sick and nasty and stupid comment.

:wtf:

[Safetykitten]

64. We are at Professional Left summer camp.

[JamesA1102]

75. So where were they a year ago before that all happened

and tea party people were over running town hall meetings?

[YOY]

79. So the townhalls were the reason why we got the Republican HC solution from 1993!

It was to keep those "concerned citizens" happy! I wonder why they're not happy now then?

OMG!!! I FEEL SO GUILTY!!!

Who knew Republican fools acting like fools by making bigger fools of themselves than usual would have such a dire impact on the Democratic Parties actions???

[JamesA1102]

86. I would say they had an impact on the file bill, yes. nt

[YOY]

93. What we got had nothing to do with what anyone/party thought or wanted save the insuance companies.

n.t.

[JamesA1102]

94. Not true

If that were the case and the insurance companies were already getting everything they wanted then why did they go to the expense to pay for those protests? Why are they now funding republicans on a 6 to 1 ratio?

[YOY]

114. Apparently whatever they paid they got what they wanted.

And what better way to ensure that they keep getting what they want by making sure Republicans are paid off well enough to leave be or to make it even worse.

Notice how Republicans barely complain about it now? Now it's all about "integrity".

You can't honestly think the industry won't get what it wants just because one party is in power over another, can you?

You see...they have plenty of money to play several strategies to get whatever that want regardless of what happens.

[JamesA1102]

121. No the Republicans are running on repealing it.

And the insurance companies are funding them.

[Steely_Dan]

124. Where Was The President? n/t

[JamesA1102]

130. Being demonized by the right wing tea partiers

while the left stayed home.

[proud2BlibKansan]

80. +1

[SargeUNN]

95. as Billy Jack was told in the movie

That's a bunch of crap. If you are that thin skinned then you need to go hide and let the brave people who care more about our nation than their feelings do the real work. Get in the game and quit crying for goodness sake. I am sick of that kind of stupidity.

[YOY]

116. Cry me a river Billy Jack. Games over...

Thin skined thick skinned...whatever.

Just remember when it's all over and the dipshit are back in charge who blew it...it wasn't "the base".

[Steely_Dan]

128. We Are Lacking Leadership...

...from the top. It is baffling to me. Whatever he is doing. It ain't working.

=P

[Number23]

122. + a million. You said it.

[DemocracyInaction]

2. Ummmmm

I'm 65 and gave up long ago expecting my Dem Party to stand up anymore for anything. We are very good at hiding and hoping "this too shall pass". In my day we damn near burned the country down and the type you see at the rallies were scared crapless of "liberals". The ball is now in the hands of you young folks............I'm retired......

[ChiciB1]

39. Yeah... But The Young Folks Don't Have The Balls, Or So It Seems!

Maybe they don't study history enough, or don't care enough to find out, but in the end... it's their asses so many of us fought to protect!

I said yesterday I will NEVER join or campaign for ANOTHER candidate, I fully cooked myself!

Still, I would consider taking to the streets as I have in the past! My last was in D.C. September 24, 2005!!

[YOY]

88. We don't live in a culture that allows one to "drop out" anymore.

Wonder why..it's like through manipulation need and complacence we lost the ability to protest visibly.

[Mz Pip]

3. I know we had a huge one

in SF prior to the Iraq war that was bigger than that and it didn't need to be advertized 24/7 or have people bussed in.

Not much media coverage. It wasn't carried on CSPAN either.

We do have marches. No one in the media pays any attention though.

BTW is anyone covering the other rally that Sharpton is holding? Anyone?

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[HopeHoops]

6. The Democrats aren't so disrespectful as to desecrate the anniversary of MLK's speech.

Beckkk's a fucking asshole.

[Subdivisions]

11. We don't have to desecrate anything. But we also don't have to lay down and

take this shit! While they spread their message to masses of people, we lay meek and watch and complain and whine about crowd sizes.

It's bullshit.

[HopeHoops]

27. That's my point. MLK didn't advertise. People showed up. The date wasn't contrived, either.

I agree that we need an event, but if you recall, it was almost 2 years ago that we had one - the largest turnout ever for an inauguration. My eldest two daughters were there. THAT was a crowd.

This bullshit will be forgotten by anyone with an IQ over 50 within a few days. FOX will, of course, continue to run clips of it up until the election. None of the real news channels will bother with it after tomorrow afternoon or so. It really doesn't matter. People who watch the FOX propaganda channel won't vote for a Democrat anyway.

[Subdivisions]

30. I was at the inaugural. That was to support a new president by a crowd

that was full of hope in an atmosphere of promise. It was something you would expect considering the historical consequences. It doesn't really qualify as a "rally".

Now, the hope and the promise has faded and the right-wing is bringing in the crowds while we stand by watching. It's shameful.

[HopeHoops]

53. Yeah, but even St. Ronnie didn't draw a crown half of that size!

[npk]

129. You can't really compare the two

Raygun's inauguration was just another presidential inauguration of another white president. Pretty much ho-hum as far as those kinds of events are concerned. Obama's inauguration was historic because he was the first African American to be elected president. There really wasn't anything historic about Raygun's inauguration. Unless that is, you consider that his election led to the systematic downfall of the US.

Inaugurations, generally draw only hardcore supporters who worked for the president, and onlookers. But with Obama, everyone that could get to DC wanted to be there because they wanted to be a part of history.

[Bluenorthwest]

31. People need, I repeat, need to learn about how the March

for Jobs and Freedom was organized, and by whom. People most certainly did not just show up they were organized. By forgotten heros.

[Synicus Maximus]

82. Do you think there will be haf as many at his next inauguration?

[ChiciB1]

32. Oh, How MUCH I Agree With You!! Yes, I HAVE Been To Marches Where

they've IGNORED us, but that was then, this is now! IF WE mobilize and show that we are WILLING to fight back against an Administration that seems to want to IGNORE us, then I don' see HOW MSM won't cover it!!

I've been upset because we didn't get coverage, but things ARE different now! Democrats marching against their Representative & Leaders is different from protesting against Repukes!!

To demonstrate against WAR and policy changes we are confronting will mean that the "we the people Democrats" are totally fed up!! That's something I think MSM would LOVE to cover! If for no other reason than to show that Democrats are unhappy with their own!

I think it's our only option, even if too many here are AFRAID of doing it!!

[Brickbat]

7. Here ya go, knock yourself out. Not too early to plan, not too late to get involved:

http://wercampaign.org/2010/07/19/afl-cio-backs-october-2nd-march-in-washington-dc-for-jobs-justice-and-peace/

[one_voice]

21. Thanks for the link. n/t

[ChiciB1]

40. Looks Like More Than LaRaza... This Is A Real Start... We Should Shout

this up! Thanks for the link!!

[ChiciB1]

41. Looks Like More Than LaRaza... This Is A Real Start... We Should Shout

this up! Thanks for the link!!

[OneGrassRoot]

77. Here's more:

http://www.onenationworkingtogether.org/march.aspx

:hi:

[proud2BlibKansan]

85. I'll be there

[w8liftinglady]

91. wow-thanks for the website.I wish I could go.

[Desertrose]

8. They get the rallies & the press cuz we allow it....

in fact we pretty much just hand it to them.

All the MSM talks about is Faux & their minions...why bother to give them so much free press?

[G_j]

9. where is the other rally?

you know, the one honoring MLK Jr.

[Subdivisions]

12. I have no idea. I have asked who is broadcasting it several times and

there was never an answer. I can only assume that, since I can't find it on TV, it must not be being carried live.

[G_j]

15. yea, I guess it never happened...

:-(

[Desertrose]

13. Good question?

Why are we not hearing about that....? :eyes:


:hi:G_J

[G_j]

20. I can't believe I spent part of my morning watching

"The Ministry Of Dr. Glenn Beck" as one of the speakers referred to it.
I was hoping to see some of the MLK honoring rally.

oh well

:hi: DR

[Desertrose]

22. NIce thing about MST...I get to hear what you guys have to say first.

....didn't plan on watching anyway though. Not that I would have missed anything, huh?


Yeah...what did happen to that other rally?


:loveya::hug:
DR

[one_voice]

24. C-Span will be showing it this afternoon...

I flipped over to Faux News and they had a clip of it. Go figure.

[HughBeaumont]

14. It's probably because we DID have rallies . . .and they were never covered.

WE don't control the message. THEY do. They have the corporate dollars on their side. All we have is word of mouth.

Not to mention that whenever there's a protest, more than a few on DU and other blogs continually complain that no one takes it seriously because of what they call the "Free Mumia" people distorting the message. The last anti-war rally I went to was almost as anti-Obama as any angry TeaDoucher rally.

That's what I'd be afraid of. I'm not anti-Obama and I'm not a "Hang Yourself In the Streets and Get it Over With" type. I don't want to give up and concede this country to the corporatists, especially not to a bunch of dick tits like Mitch McConnell, John Boehner and Sharron Angle.

There has to be a unifying message of jobs and for this administration (and for all state and local governments as well) to stop putting the needs of the wealthy over the needs of the people that really matter - the Working/Poor/homeless/middle classes. THIS is your voting base. THIS is your tax base. THIS is who you're supposed to be working for.

I'm just scared that this is going to devolve into another anti-Obama rally. I DON'T have SHIT in common with Friedman Apologist Trickle Downer TeaDouchers.

[NYC Liberal]

16. We had HUGE rallies for 8 years It's almost always the

"opposition" that goes out and protests.

[Imajika]

17. We do have a rally today...

Sharpton is having a counter rally right now.

Not his fault hardly anyone will probably go.

[Desertrose]

23. Anyone broadcasting it?? n/t

[mucifer]

26. Sharpton is NOT having a counter rally. beck IS the counter rally. Sharpton has this

rally every year to honor Dr. Martin Luther King.

I just want to clarify this.

[Desertrose]

28. Thank you. Good to know.

:)

Go Al!!

[Imajika]

29. Your right...

..thanks for the correction.

[Skidmore]

43. Ralph Reed was on WJ this morning calling Sharpton's rally the

counter rally and whenever the right starts labelling something it becomes the lingo of the day.

[bdamomma]

119. Very good way of making that observation.

plus anyone who has a brain would not go to Becks rally, and crazy Palin was there

[shraby]

25. I believe there will be one Oct 2.

[ChiciB1]

34. There Will Be... But I Don't Know What It's For!! We Need A National Rally

against what our very own Democrats and this WH is doing against us!! I have a gut feeling it will get coverage because it means Democrats are fed up with they way we are being treated! BY a Democratic Party that is supposed to be in CONTROL, but seems to spit in our face so much of the time!!

Still, I forgot what the Oct. 2 things was about!!

[Subdivisions]

35. It's about jobs and is spearheaded primarily by La Raza. n/t

[ChiciB1]

38. OOOOPS! I Think That's Why I Forgot! Not That JOBS Aren't At The Top

of the list, but we need to MARCH because we feel we're getting the SHAFT from our very own!! Especially SS, and what may happen!!

[proud2BlibKansan]

89. It's being organized by AFL-CIO and NAACP

La Raza may have signed on but the rally was proposed back in May by union leaders.

[Subdivisions]

98. I think you're right. I was thinking about this effort:

http://www.onenationworkingtogether.org

If AFL-CIO and unions started in May then the above org probably joined in shortly thereafter.

As a union member, I'm glad to see they are organizing the October 2 march, if not a bit perplexed that I didn't already know that. I'll try to be there if I can. I've been thinking about going since seeing the site above posted to GD a few weeks ago.

[proud2BlibKansan]

104. PM me if you go

I bought my plane ticket and reserved my hotel room this week. So I am there :) We should definitely meet up.

[Subdivisions]

106. I will. You and I, I believe, have already met. At a certain camp.

In Texas. During the bush era.

:) :hi:


Edited to add: Now that I think about it, I was Texas Explorer at the time and we may have missed each other by a day. But, as many of your posts that I've read, even if we haven't met yet, I feel like I know you already. I'll give you a holler if I can make it and we'll have coffee or something :).

[Libertas1776]

37. Why?

Because as George Carlin said, where too comfortable for our own good. Everyone's got a phone now that makes you pancakes and rubs your balls.

The real die hard take it to the streets en mass liberals are becoming an endangered species.

[ChiciB1]

48. Then "We Liberals" MUST FIGHT BACK!! They Call Us Names, They

IGNORE US, and STILL expect us to elect them! SICK THINKING and completely OFFENSIVE!!

I've had it myself, and I'm going to try to get involved with this! Sure, I'm a little over 60 and remember the past, but SOMETHING needs to happen! The younger generation doesn't seem to want to pick up the ball and run with it!!

I fear it will be too late before they actually understand what has been happening now and looks like more of the same!!

[AspenRose]

44. Even if we HAD a rally, the media wouldn't cover it.

Exhibit A:

[Subdivisions]

47. They would have if that crowd had invaded the NY studios of the

major news outlets.

[ChiciB1]

51. I KNOW What You Mean About The Recent Past Rallies, But I DO

think some things have actually shifted. I think I mentioned it earlier. THIS IS a Democratic President, a Democratic Senate AND a Democratic House!

If DEMOCRATS protest about what we perceive they are doing "against" us, it just might perk them up because it shows HOW Democrats will actually NOT TOW THE LINE!!

That's what happened during Viet Nam, and as I've said before, LBJ was toast by the time it was over!!

Democrats uniting against the craps their pushing these days just might get more attention then when we protested against BFEE!

Just my thinking right now, because all the writing and hand wringing is doing NADA, NOTHING... ZILCH!!

[Fumesucker]

46. Uhh.. Sorry, we're all scheduled for drug tests..

As per Robert Gibbs..

And then after that we have to take remedial courses in right wing ass kissing as per Rahmbo.

[Arkana]

76. Your victim complex rivals that of the Becktards, truly.

[Fumesucker]

84. And your mastery of insults rivals that of Limpballs..

Truly..

But I mean that in a nice way..

[JVS]

49. For some reason when we do something the media checks out and the police show up.

[AspenRose]

54. *nodding*

That would be the "liberal media," right? :sarcasm:

[rucky]

50. Well, we did have a hell of an inauguration party.

But it seems we're due, already.

[amborin]

56. the left needs to take a ; from February 201:0

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7733013

[another saigon]

57. um, we had some rallies, 2003, 2004, 2005

really big ones. In DC alone in 2005 half a million seeking peace. Zero coverage, except for c-span. We do not exist if the corporate media does not report it.

[ChiciB1]

69. BUT, As I Said... Those Marches Were One's Against The War & BFEE!

IF Democrats protest our very own, THEY MIGHT find that interesting even if it's only for their own personal fun or ignorance!

Possibly seeing the so called "left-wing retards" or "the professional left" fighting back, THEY might think this is something to cover! They may see it as an "internal fight" within the Party and make a big deal about it!!

That is a possibility, and since the October one has now been joined by AFL-CIO And SEIU, we could possibly make some waves. I heard a little about it, but only once.

I suppose I need to check out both those Unions to see if they are all in with it! If it's mainly about jobs, then that's still okay because THAT message needs to be heard!!

And we here have always been good about getting the word out about these things. So perhaps we should keep posting about it!

Other than that, I don't know of anything else going on, but I DO know I sick and tired of being taken for granted! Given was has gone on, and what MAY still happen, we DO NEED to get off our duffs and DO SOMETHING to get the attention of TPTB!!!

I'm willing to scrape the bottom of my barrel to find a way to go to D.C., even if it will be difficult to find the money!!

[another saigon]

81. excellent points

but, would we be allowed to carry clever signs with dems included with the bourgeois repubes? That is what it would require. I am willing. Reid, Pelosi, and dems with the wall street robber barons? I am in!

[1badjedi]

63. Hard to have a rally

when too many of our members are either sad, afraid of everything, crying, or too busy writing letters to congress and the Wh that will never be answered. We have accepted our fate as the party of the weak and it is clearly obvious. There is no real fight left in the democratic party or it's supporters. Look no further than Mr. Concession in Chief.

As more people fall into the cesspool then MAYBE we can make a stew but not until. Too many people are still too comfortable sitting back and waiting for miracles.

I'm sure we'll try to fight back someday but by then it will be too late. Most likely it already is too late.

[great white snark]

87. Man, you need to get out more.

I mean out of the DU bubble. Nobody I know in the real world has just given up. We write, phone and hit the streets to get more Dems elected. Nothing "weak" about our commitment and we have plenty of fight in us.

Disappointed, yes. Deterred, no.

[1badjedi]

123. If you say so.....

Keep writing and making phone calls, lemme know how that works out.

Oh and getting "dems elected" doesn't count for much if you don't even show up on their radar when it comes time to care. This administration has shown that quite well. Thanks for your vote, now piss off!

[Steely_Dan]

126. I Couldn't Agree With You More...

Without dynamic (strong) leadership, the left will not feel supported...

I have a feeling if we got the word from our President...an angry President who would take charge of the message and frame the arguments...we would rise.

-P

[EFerrari]

67. The Reclaim the Dream Rally is on CSPAN right now.

If you can't watch it right now, check back at the CSPAN video archive site later, it will be there:

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/videoLibrary/

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[IcyPeas]

72. why aren't we rallying?

we are sitting at our computers - we don't go out to rally -- we have ourselves to blame. the last time I was out in the street was when Kerry was running. half the teabaggers probably don't even have computers (well, okay some of them do) - yet somehow they mobilize by watching beck, et al. and another thing.... watching the news yesterday.... MSNBC, CNN - I kept hearing about beck and palin - Why are they given so much news coverage? Why does everyone keep talking about them - legitimizing them? Even here there are so many threads about beck. we give they so much publicity. do we think they don't look here? they must love it. We protest behind our monitors....

"I am hungry for some unrest
I want to push this beyond a peaceful protest
I wanna speak in a language that they'll understand..."

M. Bellamy

[iamthebandfanman]

74. media doesnt cover left events anyway...

i mean, almost a million people marched against the wars at one protest in DC and it even got lil to no air time on television.

[IcyPeas]

78. anarchy

seriously, we need some anarchists in our party. we don't have the equivalent of a beck or a hannity and unfortunately we need one.

[Blue_Tires]

108. exactly

i participated in one of the 'smaller' (our official count was around 200-250k) anti-invasion marches back in Oct. '03 (met several DUers), and the total media coverage was C-SPAN and the local D.C. affiliates had a 10-second bite of one of Sharpton's zingers against Bush...

Of course the irony of ironies was the endless amount of flame wars on DU about the protest rallies and marches -- There was a LOT of vitriol/criticism/resentment on this site against International ANSWER and other protest organizers (some of it was legit criticism, but most of it wasn't)...

And media/corporate support has much to do with how these things are portrayed in the arena of public opinion...An ENTIRE cable network and their advertisers are propping up the illusion of Beck's, legitimacy, while the anti-war crowd consistently got painted as anti-american stoners giving aid to the terrorists...

[Luminous Animal]

90. There was another rally in D.C. to honor King. You could have gone.

There was also a march and rally organized by Jesse Jackson's Rainbow/Push and the UAW in Detroit. You could have gone to that, too.

[Subdivisions]

96. Really? I could have gone? Really? From Texas? I didn't even know

I had the money to finance a trip that far across the country.

Gee, I feel so guilty for not having gone.

I would have gone if I could have. Really. I'm sorry.

I guess it wasn't enough that I made some personal sacrifices, lost my home, lost my partner of 10 years to be at this president's inauguration in Jan '09. This president who has since dissappointed me in so many ways. I should just die already because I'm so useless.

[w8liftinglady]

97. hey-maybe we could have hitched a ride with our teabagger neighbors

You guys forget,Subdivisions and I are in the extreme minority here.It DOES suck at times like these.

[Subdivisions]

99. Howdy ma'am =) Hope all is well with you. Yes, but at least I have

Chet Edwards and am in a blue district. :eyes:

But, not to worry. Our Bill White is going to sweep the trash out of the governor's office in due time. :)

[w8liftinglady]

100. yeah,well I have Barton-...But I DO have faith in White

Barton has been big on jumping on the Tea Party bandwagon...sigh.

[Subdivisions]

101. Oh, well that poor, poor Barton. I'm sure you've done all you can

to make his life miserable in the LTTE section of your local newspaper.

[w8liftinglady]

103. ummm...ok,guilty as charged :)

[northernlights]

92. we had our rally

when President Obama was campaigning and elected.

'nuff said. x(

[Chemical Bill]

117. Notice the corporate media doesn't compare...

the teabagger rallies or beckapalooza to the inauguration? The right-wingnuts would come up awfully short.

Bill

[Chemical Bill]

102. We just don't make the news. n/t

[Subdivisions]

107. Do you think we would if we invaded the 'news' network studios? n/t

[w8liftinglady]

109. according to popular beliefs-we already have a "Liberal" media

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_bias_in_the_United_States#External_links

[Subdivisions]

111. Lol Indeed, w8! =)

[Chemical Bill]

110. No

They wouldn't cover us if we were naked.

Bill

[Subdivisions]

112. Well, I wouldn't blame them if we were naked...

:hi:

[Chemical Bill]

113. I'd want pics! n/t

[Liberal In Texas]

115. Well, first we get some billionaires to pay for transportation and rooms.

And then we probably still won't get any media coverage.

[HughBeaumont]

118. Then we get another billionaire to buy a major cable media outlet . . .

. . . or two . . .

[Liberal In Texas]

120. Yes, that's how we get the coverge. Buy our own cable channel.

With some billionaires from Australia and Saudi Arabia.

[grahamhgreen]

131. All Obama had to do was ask us to come to DC for real Health Care Reform!

Would have got 1,000,000

[Initech]

132. That's because there is no liberal media. It does not exist.