"If the interviewee received little or no financial assistance, then I simply won't hire him or her.

[Liberal_in_LA]

:wtf:

The quote is from a comment to an article about $50K tution. Seems really discriminatory to me.

employer's point of view
On the rare occasion that I get an Ivy League resume to examine, I make sure that my interviewer asks the candidate several leading questions that never fails to reveal whether or not he/she was awarded a significant scholarship.

If the interviewee received little or no financial assistance, then I simply won't hire him or her. I want somebody who I know NEEDs the job, and doesn't have an out to move back in with mommy and daddy if he can't cut it and/or isn't hungry enough to grow as an employee. I also know that this person likely had all the time they needed to study and concentrate on grades.

Give me somebody who had to have 3 part-time jobs, a student loan, and a 2.5 GPA any day. I know they can multitask and handle surprises. In the grand scheme of things, certainly the Ivy League candidate read more books and has a lot more significant anecdotal information from all-star professors ... but this is one case where the law of diminishing returns shows that the difference doesn't justify the ROI.


http://politics.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2010/08/17/Is-a-50000-College-Tuition-Worth-It.html

[uncommon]

1. That's kind of crappy but I also understand the logic -

I have nothing but respect for people who have worked hard for what they have. However, accepting financial aid hardly makes one a trustafarian...

[damntexdem]

14. Which is really crappy.

Not everyone can GET substantial financial assistance, no matter the need.

[Rex]

2. Sounds like a pompous walnut; wants a serf that will live for their job

and nothing else. Someone that needs their many 'inferiors' to look up to them with worship and admiration.

[JuniperLea]

3. That's just wrong...

What's wrong with hiring the most qualified?

:shrug:

I object to looking at a wallet as much as I object to looking at color/sex.

[Fumesucker]

7. Qualifications, like beauty, are in the eye of the beholder.. n/t

[cynatnite]

4. In other words they think someone that needed financial aid is lazier...

than the person who didn't. That's the basis of their hiring decision.

It is discriminatory.

[d_r]

8. no, I think it is the opposite

they think the person that needed financial aid works harder than the one that didn't = they had to "multi task" since their parents weren't paying for it.

Not that I agree (but I can understand the logic).

[hyphenate]

10. No

It's just the opposite. Someone who works hard, who is eager to get through school, but who is not wealthy enough to be going through college on their family's money, are better workers. They know what it's like to be poor, and they accept financial help in order to get through it. Their motivation trumps the tendency of people like GWB, who don't give a shit about learning anything at college, and since their parents pay for their tuition, it's no skin off their nose to get to graduation. They're more inclined to get legacy acceptances, waste time staying drunk and doing drugs, and going through their college years with little to no actual work on their part.

[izquierdista]

5. And they are really fun to watch

When I pitch their salary in the swimming pool and see how much coin they can pick up before it gets sucked down the drain.

[hyphenate]

6. I would agree with that assessment

Think of GWB. He failed at everything he ever did. And Poppy and others kept bailing him out. Then think of someone who worked their asses off to stay in college and knew what it was like to eat Top Ramen for weeks at a time. Think about which one is more capable of dealing with reality. With that, you have a case for this statement.

And even more important is the fact that it's an Ivy League college. They are among the country's most expensive institutes of higher learning, so someone has to be pretty motivated in order to get there and stay there. Someone who isn't paying his way by having wealthy parents isn't as determined to go the distance.

And those poor enough to get grants and other financial assistance are there because they have the brains to be there, and can garner enough ways to help them get through college. They understand what it means to be poor.

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. Oh that explains a few things

We are really fucked as a nation...

[Blue Meany]

11. I have hired a number of mothers who have been out of the workforce

for years and I have yet to be disappointed. They can multi-task, nothing seems to frazzle them, they have great social skills, and learn quickly. I know for many jobs they have a hard time even getting an interview, but I think the HR people are making a big mistake. Experience outside the workplace can be really valuable.

[prolesunited]

12. That's wonderful for you -- and for them!

I'm glad you are willing to take the chance and happy to see it pays off.

I think people make so many judgments that they miss out on wonderful applicants.

There is a HUGE talent pool of people 45 to 60 that is just languishing. A smart business person would be giving this group a chance. At that age, chances are the kids are older and they are settled. They aren't going to be texting their friends about plans or routinely showing up after a night of clubbing.

[HubertHeaver]

16. Of course they won't be texting their friends. They don't know how!

Edit. Spelling error, hit send instead of spell-check.

[Dark]

17. ROFLMFAO

n/t

[prolesunited]

18. Quite untrue

and one of the main reasons they are passed over. They are deemed to be out of touch and unfamiliar with technology.

I'm glad you both find this amusing, but I'm 47 and can't seem to land an interview -- even though I'm using social media tools to try to do it.

[etherealtruth]

13. I hate to admit it but I kinda agree (acknowledging that bias IS wrong)

I realize this is just anecdotal and means nothing ....but the folk I have encountered that have been able to go to a good school .... without borrowing a dime, without having to work, without receiving a scholarship ... have tended to believe that they were "entitled" to positions, instead of having to work for them.

Those that struggled (a little or a lot) and managed to get through school .... display a willingness to work, a sense of ambition .... not to mention a lot of drive and personal fortitude.

[conspirator]

15. I have reached the conclusion a long time ago: business priority is not to hire good professionals

The priority is to hire good slaves. People who obey and accept shitty conditions.
If they happen to be good professionals is just a cherry on top of the cake.