Optimism or Pessimism?

[wookie72]

Whenever I go over to my folks, we usually talk about politics, and lately we've been speculating about a Palin bid in 2012. My Dad, who is generally optimistic, thinks it would be great because Palin would get crushed. My Mom, on the other hand, thinks it would be terrible because enough yahoos will vote for Palin to get her in.

So who's right?

[LiberalLoner]

1. I don't have any idea, honestly. I wonder a lot about that too. n/t

[babylonsister]

2. Your Dad is right. There aren't that many yahoos who like Palin

enough to vote for her. They know she's an entertaining moron.



http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0810/You_can_love_Palin_without_wanting_her_to_be_president.html

August 30, 2010


You can love Palin without wanting her to be president

A new 60 Minutes/Vanity Fair poll offers what is, I think, a somewhat misleading way to look at Sarah Palin.

The poll finds that 59 percent of Americans and 40 percent of Republicans don't think she'd make an "effective president" — numbers that come very close to disqualifying her even in the primary, if she chooses to run.

This trouble imagining President Palin is constant across the polling since soon after she was chosen as John McCain's running mate, and it reflects both her own lack of experience and the higher bar set for a woman — Hillary Clinton did years of carefully projecting the kind of strength Mark Penn thought she needed to show to be a plausible contender. (Holmes and Traister think there's now space for a Palin on the left, but the poll numbers suggest otherwise to me.)

[LiberalLoner]

3. I know the polls show a lot don't like her, but I wonder about turn-out and

also manipulated voting with the software, etc. I mean if we had low Democratic turnout plus some vote fraud with the machines, I dunno....

[babylonsister]

5. How do you think she'd do in debates, against Obama? He'd

crush her...gently.

[one_voice]

8. This is how I see the debates going...

Palin, would never answer a question, she'd talk around it. She'd have "bullet points" she rattle off, and in between she'd make folksy comments and cutesy jabs at Obama.

Her cult would think she did wonderfully, even though she never answered anything.

Now, the question becomes, how many people could separate the two. Obama, having a command of the issues, and Palin having a command of snarkiness, and word salad.

If she runs, after the first debate, watch the spin about how she's fiery, and "common folk". Sadly low information voters will cling to her debate "style" (or lack there of).

And Obama, will have to "be careful" not to be too harsh on her cuz she's a woman, and as much as it pains me to say this..not just a woman but a white woman.

Having seen the teabaggers in action, reading the different winger sites, this is the mind set of too many people.

I think it will be a little "tricky" for Obama, but I believe he can show just how uninformed she is, and do it in a way that's not condescending, which will unfortunately be necessary.

[TheKentuckian]

4. I think of Reagan and Bush and am confident it is best to let them work it out themselves

and take whatever clown they throw out as a deadly serious threat no matter how out to lunch or stupid they are.

[TheMuse]

6. Honestly when it comes down to it

....Palin would reveal herself to be nothing more than a hack. She has already done it once. The people that love her are the same people that were in the 22% that thought Bush did a hell of a job. There is nothing you could do to get those voters.

But when put in a debate, during hard hitting interviews that she would surely have to do sooner or later, she would be exposed. Again.

But I have been wrong before. Maybe should would be better coached? I just don't think she can think on her feet, and can only answer questions in generalities and talking points, and that independents would see through her act. Again.

[Urban Prairie]

7. Doubt it if Sarahbou Barbie would survive

the debates gauntlet vs the other seasoned GOP candidates.