I guess history was re-written.Truth is the 'surge" had nothing to do with the "success" in Iraq

[Boxerfan]

I can't believe not one commentator hasn't blown this talking point out of the hole. It's simply not true the surge worked.

I am definitely no expert & I'm not sourcing anything other than memory. The Sunni awakening as it was called was actually brought about by large cash payments to Tribal leaders. They were bribed to help plain & simple.

Is it too much to ask that we not fall in every freaking trap the Republicans lay down?. This one is plain & simply not true .You can have other discussions regarding how the war started etc.. & they are all on our side if you can debate past a 3rd grade level.

But if we can't lay out the actual facts of this one bald ass lie of a talking point-Oy & vey we need to get some more aggressive people speaking for us.I will volunteer gladly...

[sfwriter]

1. No joke...

I was talking about this today... I am constantly amazed, though I no longer know why, that these stories get reported and huge chunks of facts left out. History, rewritten before our eyes.

[Angry Dragon]

2. Iraq is in worse shape now than when we got there

How can this be considered a success??

One can not force people to believe as you do with a gun barrel.
One forces change by example, not by force. The sooner this country comes to that fact,
the sooner we can start getting this country back on track.