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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:11 PM
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Uh, Dear President- you might want to review these tapes.

The Kabuki Congress ignored Bugliosi.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDAFozFn4kU

Where's Mr. Bugliosi when we need him?
Perhaps he should school our president on the Bush war crimes?
http://www.prosecutionofbush.com/

And last, but not least- Keith's accounting of 8 years of Bush in 8 minutes.
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/coundown-bush-presidency-eight-years-eight

BHN
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:19 PM
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1. Obama knows
he just doesn't give a shit
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:21 PM
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2. If it requires confrontation and conflict (i.e. drama) with the right
the administration's record is to shy away from addressing the issue- much less seek accountability.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:22 PM
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4. I don't know if he gives a shit or not- what I do know is he is not in charge.
Even if he wanted to follow the law, clearly as Bugliosi has
pointed out, there are now TWO sets of law in this country.

TPB control the White House, not elected public servants.

BHN
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:36 PM
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12. Agreed. I think it's pretty clear it's not about Obama.
Our entire system is corrupted.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:42 PM
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16. Bugliosi warned that if Bush were not held accountable,
it was the most dangerous threat to the office of the Presidency
in the history of the country- that it was a precedent that could NOT be
allowed.

Our Congress did nothing.
Conyers presiding the hearing.

BHN
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:45 PM
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17. I still wonder if those 6 missing nukes were ever recovered. nt
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:54 PM
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19. Hell! I forgot that story! GOOD question.
The outrage fatigue has taken it's toll over the years.
That's why I am so glad there are still DUers here that remember
different and various details and news stories.

Together, we continue to document and preserve information.

BHN
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 01:01 PM
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30. I agree with you too. What I think might have happened if Obama had tried...I can't
allow myself to even type it.
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ThomCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 10:32 PM
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22. Yup. He couldn't prosecute anyone for doing stuff he planned to do.
Torture? He continues to do it.

Spying on Americans? He refuses to give up any information about it, or any authority to continue doing it, and we can only assume the government continues doing it because of the stonewalling and defense of it.

Rendition? He continues to do it.

War crimes in Afghanistan? He continues to do it.

War crimes in Iraq? He claims we have left Iraq so we can't be doing this anymore. But we still have 50,000 troops, plus at least 70,000 contractors and mercenaries over there, and growing, who aren't answerable to local laws. Rocket attacks and IED attacks are still happening, so it's naive to think counterattacks aren't happening too. That means even more civilian deaths and atrocities. Have the CIA and military prisons with their famous Rape Room interrogation centers been closed down yet? I'm guessing he continued to do it.

If Obama prosecuted the Bush administration for doing any of this stuff then he would have to expect the next administration to prosecute his administration for doing the exact same stuff. But if he gives the Bush administration a free pass, he sets a precedent, and he can hope the next administration follows suit. Never prosecute your predecessors. Instead, just grab as much power as you can and don't look back. :(

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 10:54 PM
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23. "he sets a precedent" Bugliosi's point exactly.
When Robinlynne and I went to hear him, that was one of his MAIN
warnings. That if Bush were NOT prosecuted, basically, Rule of Law
was HISTORY.

BHN
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 11:09 AM
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28. Gotta keep the power dry and get re-elected!
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ipaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:22 PM
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3. Or perhaps a perusal of the war diary of one iraqi women.
Bush said:
“The troops here and across the world are fighting a global war on terror. The war reached our shores on September 11, 2001.”

Do people really still believe this? In spite of that fact that no WMD were found in Iraq, in spite of the fact that prior to the war, no American was ever killed in Iraq and now almost 2000 are dead on Iraqi soil? It’s difficult to comprehend that rational people, after all of this, still actually accept the claims of a link between 9/11 and Iraq. Or that they could actually believe Iraq is less of a threat today than it was in 2003.

We did not have Al-Qaeda in Iraq prior to the war. We didn’t know that sort of extremism. We didn’t have beheadings or the abduction of foreigners or religious intolerance. We actually pitied America and Americans when the Twin Towers went down and when news began leaking out about it being Muslim fundamentalists- possibly Arabs- we were outraged.

Now 9/11 is getting old. Now, 100,000+ Iraqi lives and 1700+ American lives later, it’s becoming difficult to summon up the same sort of sympathy as before. How does the death of 3,000 Americans and the fall of two towers somehow justify the horrors in Iraq when not one of the people involved with the attack was Iraqi?

http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/2005_07_01_archive.html


We were the terrorists. We attacked an innocent people. We committed unspeakable atrocities.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:28 PM
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5. And the moment that chilled me to the bone was
When during the National Press Dinner at the White House,
Bush did a "comedy" routine about looking for WMDs.
I called the WH the next day to ask if he had been
examined by a mental health professional as I could not
understand how anyone in his right mind would do such a thing when
citizens in this country, who had loved ones serving, were watching.
Knowing that WMDs were the reason given for their loved ones
being caught up in the invasion and battles in Iraq.

Any one remember that night?

The ultimate mocking of our troops, our country and WE the People, by a sociopath.

BHN
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 11:06 PM
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25. I remember, the ass. Despicable monster. KnR! n/t
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 05:20 PM
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35. I'll never forget any of it. Not the pet goat 20 min stare, lucky me I hit the trifecta heh heh heh
with us or against us, bring it on (our troops from his own safe perch), mission accomplished, the wmd hunt heh heh heh, the plastic turkey, wearing the presidential seal on his socks and underwear, looting the economy, raping the treasury, initiating mountaintop removal, calling our country 'homeland' like some kind of pnaci.
9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11

Calling this sociopath a patriot is also a mockery.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:29 PM
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7. Is Riverbend still writing for the Internet?
Hope so.
Hope she is safe.

BHN
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:29 PM
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6. self delete
Edited on Tue Aug-31-10 09:37 PM by scheming daemons
...
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:32 PM
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8. What are you talking about? What 'dog whistle'?
Its a generic term. You're just making things up now.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:34 PM
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10. It's the way one addresses a letter.
Not sure what a dog whistle has to do with the content of the OP.

BHN
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:36 PM
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13. Sorry, I read it as a single title "Dear President"... as in "Our Dear President"
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 10:55 PM
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24. No problem- did you watch the C-span video?
It'll make your head explode.

BHN
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:37 PM
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14. Well if one is trying to detract from the content but has no defense,
I guess you just make shit up and feign 'offense'.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:33 PM
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9. Did any USA's take up Bugliosi's cause?
Didn't think so.

It just goes to show you that there's NO separation between the Judicial and Administrative branches of government.

No USA will put his ass on the line for basic Constitutional justice.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:36 PM
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11.  I heard a murmur for a moment- can't remember which state the attorney was from.
I do have a contact that I can ask for more information
about where it stands.

BHN
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:40 PM
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15. Really?
You'd think it would have made the News.

Oops, sorry. temporarily forgot who "the News" is owned by.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 12:30 AM
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27. There is only one USA
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 11:58 AM
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29. USAs= U.S. Attorneys is what was meant... duh.
Edited on Wed Sep-01-10 11:58 AM by BeHereNow
Not multiple United States of Americas...

Did you watch the C-Span video?
If you had taken the time to digest the material in the links
I provided, you would have understood the reference and Bugliosi's offer
the all the US attorneys in every state.

Any contributions about the OP, or did you just stop by
to check on proper use of acronyms by your fellow members?

BHN
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:50 PM
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18. Off the table! Stay current! Out of the past!
Apologistspeak. I'm amazed "they" haven't shown up yet.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 09:56 PM
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20. I'm sure it is a matter of time.
The un recs started almost immediately.
Heh-heh...

I like the unrec feature.
It assures me my observations are correct.
BHN
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-31-10 10:03 PM
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21. Proper way to think about it.
The Unrec, that is.

:thumbsup:
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 12:17 AM
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26. Huge K & R!
:kick:
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 02:48 PM
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31. K&R
i don't even know what to say i'm so disappointed in Obama these days i'll just :kick:
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 03:32 PM
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32. K & R
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Barack2theFuture Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 03:38 PM
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33. Obama has *extended* bush's criminal policies.
asking him to hold the cheney cabal accountable would be like asking one of the Washington Generals to call traveling on Meadowlark Lemon.
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Tutankhamun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 04:38 PM
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34. Timely reference :-)
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 10:42 PM
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36. If you haven't watched the first video- you really NEED to. Shameless kick because
Once upon a time, it would have mattered to DUers.
Where are they now?
The folks who cared?

BHN
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