Blackwater responsible for Karbala?

[justiceischeap]

With the reports kicking around the Internets that the leader of the attacks had blonde hair—which is highly unlikely for Iraqi's or Iranians—spoke excellent English and possessed US weapons and uniforms as well as vehicles and after this administrations' proven track-record of lying to get the US into war why isn't anyone asking the obvious questions? (Sorry for the run-on)

There's been talk that it's an inside job so you have to ask a few questions:

1. How are these "Iranians" able to gain access to our weapons, uniforms and vehicles?
2. If it is an inside job, who in our military is giving these folks the weapons, uniforms and vehicles?
3. Do the Iraqi's have free access to our weapons, uniforms and vehicles? If so, why?
4. Who has the most to gain from this attack?
5. Mercenaries are generally known to be hired guns and since the US seems to have no oversight on this private company—who's to say they weren't hired by Iran to do this?

There are too many questions that aren't being asked and pointing to Iran is way too convenient. To me, Blackwater seems to be the obvious choice for this little operation to stir up the warmongers.

Iran may not like the US and want to see harm come to our soldiers but what do they really have to gain by having the US bomb the shit out of them—because that's how we'll fight a "war" with them. It will be from the air.

[CrazyOrangeCat]

1. yes.

i think you're correct.

[babylonsister]

2. That's as logical as anything I've heard. I don't want to believe it,

but I didn't want to believe this admin would go to war based on their own fabricated lies, either, so I don't trust much anymore.
I didn't know the warmongers needed more stirring, but I guess there's never enough, is there.

[MemphisTiger]

3. To play devils advocate here...

You can get all that stuff on the black market and you can dye your hair. I'm just sayin'. SHOULD you be able to get that stuff, NO but the fact is that it is available.


(flame away)

[justiceischeap]

10. True but before we start another war

Shouldn't these questions be asked? Should not all avenues be investigated?

[soothsayer]

4. I thought Madonna was into the Karbala? Ohhhh, wait...

[cynatnite]

5. Do you have a link in regards to the 'blond' description?

IMO, Iran and the US will fight their war in Iraq.

[justiceischeap]

8. There was a mention made here on DU

But I can't search 'cause I'm not a donor yet (again).

http://analysis.threatswatch.org/2007/01/qods-force-karbala-and-the-lan/
http://www.iraqslogger.com/index.php/post/1069/Karbala_Hit_An_Iranian_Payback
http://cryptogon.com/?p=283

[sabra]

9. Iraqslogger said there's been talk of this...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=86792&mesg_id=86792

[cynatnite]

11. It's possible...

either way. But I'm leaning towards the leader dying his hair blond in order to get by security. English speaking isn't evidence either. I knew several people from the Middle East who spoke English very well with very little accent.

I don't believe Blackwater had anything to do with it.

[mopinko]

6. if it looks like a duck, and walks like a duck, and quacks

like a duck- it's another fucking bush lie.

[Double T]

7. bushco IS black ops, BOTH foreign and domestic..........

NEVER trust ANYTHING THEY do.

[fooj]

12. Just talking about this distinct possibility yesterday.

[Norquist Nemesis]

13. I'm open to it being Iranians

but not in the context that Bush is putting it as a stand alone incident. The U.S. without notice to the Iraqi government took into custody five (note the number) 'Iranian operatives' just prior to Karbala.

I'm not ready to take it as absolute fact that it all is exactly as the 'Pentagon sources' and 'Administration sources' are telling the Propaganda Corps. It's going to be interesting to see how much Tony Snow ratchets it up today.

[kineneb]

14. FYI- blonds in ME

there are a few "native" blonds in the ME, mostly Christian Armenians. I met several when I lived in Iran.
I doubt they would be involved in Iraq. Either a dye job, or ???

[catmandu57]

15. It would be cheaper than blowing up a ship

I'm inclined to believe that if we delve into this we'll find crashcart's fingerprint on this somewhere.

[tex-wyo-dem]

16. Very possible...

If they were going to create a false-flag incident, it would be any time now. With all the carrier groups either already stationed or heading to the Gulf and with the American people and Congress growing ever restless against Bushco's war, any time now would be the opportune moment to stage direct Iranian involvement to justify expanding the war.

IMO, if it's going to happen, it will happen soon. The PNAC is running out of time.

[BushOut06]

17. We did it to ourselves - plain and simple

Could be we hired some of those South Afrikan mercenaries, the ones who were put out of work when apartheid ended. Who knows? But we did this to ourselves, mark my words. This is a classic "false flag" operation, designed to assign the blame to Iran, giving us an excuse to prepare military action.

[Recursion]

23. Eh... inside job does not mean false flag

Mercs and real soldiers have a lot of friction. Sometimes a whole lot. Sometimes stuff happens. Maybe this just got out of hand.

[BushOut06]

24. True, but then to blame it on Iran?

If it was simply a group of renegade mercs, then why not say that? It seems to me that the WH wants to blame this on Iran.

[merh]

18. Here is something creepy to consider

From the State of the Union - 2007

One of the first steps we can take together is to add to the ranks of our military — so that the American Armed Forces are ready for all the challenges ahead. Tonight I ask the Congress to authorize an increase in the size of our active Army and Marine Corps by 92,000 in the next five years. (DRAFT???) A second task we can take on together is to design and establish a volunteer Civilian Reserve Corps. Such a corps would function much like our military reserve. It would ease the burden on the Armed Forces by allowing us to hire civilians with critical skills to serve on missions abroad when America needs them. (HIRE MERCENARIES???) And it would give people across America who do not wear the uniform a chance to serve in the defining struggle of our time.

When I heard this in his address, the first thing that came to mind was Blackwater and the civilian security forces being used to supplement the military and do things the military cannot do.

Am I crazy or is he planning on using more such "civilian" forces overseas and at home?

[justiceischeap]

19. I don't think you're crazy

I think you're right on track. I wouldn't be surprised if we see them come November '08 in full force but that's a bit of my :tinfoilhat: coming out.

[merh]

20. I think I will post a thread on this, just to see what

others think -- I mean, he is asking for the creation of the civilian forces and that's what they call all those security forces that slither around in Iraq.



:scared:

[Hubert Flottz]

25. "the defining struggle of our time"

Mein Kampf (German: My Struggle)

[merh]

27. I know

:scared:

[Edweird]

28. Extra-constitutional end run around posse comitatus ?

[merh]

30. I don't trust them in any way, shape or form.

So yes, that is possibly what he has in mind.

[rman]

21. It sure helps with deniabilty

if you have it done by a private enterprise instead of by a branch of the government.
I think this kind of shit goes on all the time, they only get caught on occasion.

[Recursion]

22. Actually a lot of Persians are blonde

And if I were picking a group to infiltrate a US base I would probably pick the blonde ones.

[Ganja Ninja]

26. What would the Iranians have to gain by killing a few of our ...

soldiers? What would they have to lose by exposing themselves to the consequences of such an attack.
I think we can pretty much rule out them in this attack.

It would not be hard for Iraqis to obtain the weapons, uniforms and vehicles for such an attack.

It's also not out of the question that this was a false flag attack given the track record of deceit our government has. I think the proof of that will be if our government tries to use as an excuse to go to war with Iran.

[alfredo]

29. I bet the Iraqi military was involved. they have access to

the weapons, or security measures, and vehicles. I would look for some field grade officers to be behind this.