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one_voice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 01:09 PM
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I'm shocked, words fail me....
the repugs are bitching and moaning about Obama's speech last night. I just knew they'd have nothing but good things to say. What's this world coming to...the repugs criticize Obama...I don't know what to think. :sarcasm: (just in case)


Republican Reaction to Obama's Iraq Speech: Mostly Negative

President Obama's speech Tuesday night marking the end of combat operations in Iraq drew a largely -- but not universally -- negative response from Republicans.

One particular sticking point for many Republicans was the president's failure to tip his cap to the apparent success in Iraq of the counterinsurgency "surge" strategy -- authored by Gen. David Petraeus and implemented by President George W. Bush over the objections of many Democrats, including then-Senators and presidential candidates Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

Sen. John McCain, who ran against Obama in the 2008 general election and an early proponent of a troop surge in Iraq, said on Fox News: "What should have said: 'I opposed the surge. I was wrong. I made a mistake and George W. Bush deserves credit for doing something that was very unpopular at the time.' " McCain added, "Instead he had to say it's well known that George Bush loves the troops."

In a written statement, Sen. John Cornyn of Texas echoed that sentiment, saying: "It's puzzling to listen to this White House try to take credit for the results of the strategy he and Vice President Biden adamantly opposed from the start."

National Review's Jonah Goldberg blogged: "I don't expect an 'I was wrong' from an Oval Office address (though it would be nice -- as it would have been from Bush more than once, too). But Obama's lawyerly avoidance of reality makes him seem petty and raises the suspicion that he can't think straight about these issues. That is dangerous."

(In an interview with PBS on Wednesday morning, Biden did give Bush some credit for the surge. "If you really go back and take a look at this," he said, "you can argue the surge made possible what was the most significant thing that occurred -- which was a political transition where we put over 100,000 Sunnis on the payroll -- the sons of Iraq. General Petraeus deserves a lot of credit and the last administration.")


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http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/09/01/republican-reaction-to-obamas-iraq-speech-mostly-negative/?icid=main%7Cmain%7Cdl1%7Csec4_lnk1%7C167723
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 01:15 PM
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1. Call the whaaambulance!
You gotta love the Doughy Pantload's post (Jonah Goldberg): All upset he is that Obama failed to say he was wrong, something he wishes he had heard from Bush "more than once." Now, maybe it's because I just got kicked in the head by a horse, but I surely don't remember the first, last or anytime in between that Bush ever said he was wrong. But Goldberg wants Obama to say he was wrong now that he's finally getting the colossal mess cleaned up that was left to him by Bush (in a continuation of a life-long pattern for the Dim Son).

In the words of that great Republican Dick Cheney, Go fuck yourselves, Republicans.
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 02:13 PM
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7. ...
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 02:23 PM
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10. lol n/t
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 01:16 PM
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2. He could cure cancer...
and they would complain that he is trying to kill jobs in hospitals, research, etc.

They're shameless.
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Still Blue in PDX Donating Member (633 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 01:18 PM
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4. you nailed it. nt
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 01:17 PM
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3. No matter what the dems do, the repukes will bitch and moan..so why the hell don't the Dems actually
Edited on Wed Sep-01-10 01:18 PM by BrklynLiberal
stand up and DO SOMETHING!! How much worse could the repuke reaction be? Maybe some of the more liberal and progressive folks would get enthused and back up the Dems!!!

This placating of the repukes reminds me of the abused wife whose husband always promises he will never beat her again...so she takes him back..and the beatings continue..till the next next apology..and the next beating..and the next apology..and the next beating.. ad infinitum

I am sick to death of the Dems being Charlie Brown to the repukes Lucy!!

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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 01:27 PM
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5. Wasn't the 'surge' really about walling off cities and allowing ethnic cleansing to continue while
the US taxpayer paid $billions to Sunni 'insurgents'?


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19384.htm

The real purpose of the "surge" was to hide another deception. The Bush regime is paying Sunni insurgents $800,000 a day not to attack U.S. forces. That's right, 80,000 members of an "Awakening group," the "Sons of Iraq," a newly formed "U.S.-allied security force" consisting of Sunni insurgents, are being paid $10 a day each not to attack U.S. troops. Allegedly, the Sons of Iraq are now at work fighting al-Qaeda.

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nenagh Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 01:31 PM
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6. I wondered what the reaction of the troops returning from Iraq..
would be to the TeaPartiers and how these fine troops will feel if they see the Repub Senators blocking a jobs bill...

and pushing tax deductions for the extremely wealthy..

As for Obama being a Muslim and fear.. fear...fear... and the rest of the rhetoric..

I'm hoping the returning troops won't be buying the propaganda..
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TheMuse Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 02:18 PM
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8. It will never matter what he says or does
He could bring down unemployment to 6%, bring peace to the middle east, cure the sick, feed the hungry.....

It doesn't matter. They will bitch. They will moan. They will spin it one way or another. They will lie. They don't really care about the world, or Americans for that matter, they want everything to fail, and if it doesn't fail, make sure he isn't the guy getting credit, or just outright lie about accomplishments because all they want is power.

And what will they do with that power....well tax cuts for the rich of course. The panacea for all that ails us!
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 02:22 PM
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9. So basic story is that everyone hates the guy.
Either that or the parties really ARE the same, since democrats haven't been doing anything but buitch and moan about it, either.
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 02:33 PM
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11. Rachael Maddow, Kieth Olberman and Tweety weren't too
happy either.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 02:35 PM
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12. if bush never invaded......the surge would never have been used
:grr::grr::hi:

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Hassin Bin Sober Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 02:43 PM
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14. If Bush sent the required troops in the first place, the surge wouldn't have been needed.
Why does he get credit for lying about what his generals were requesting for several years?

If anyone deserves credit it's General Shinseki and his colleagues who said we needed more troops from day-one.
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metapunditedgy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 02:36 PM
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13. Jonah Goldberg thinks is concerned about people who can't think straight
being dangerous.

Okay.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-01-10 02:56 PM
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15. Either "Straight talk" McCain is lying or this transcript is wrong, Obama never said
"Bush loves the troops."

"Sen. John McCain, who ran against Obama in the 2008 general election and an early proponent of a troop surge in Iraq, said on Fox News: "What should have said: 'I opposed the surge. I was wrong. I made a mistake and George W. Bush deserves credit for doing something that was very unpopular at the time.' " McCain added, "Instead he had to say it's well known that George Bush loves the troops."



http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/08/31/transcript-of-president-obamas-address-on-iraq/

We've persevered because of a belief we share with the Iraqi people, a belief that, out of the ashes of war, a new beginning could be born in this cradle of civilization. Through this remarkable chapter in the history of the United States and Iraq, we have met our responsibilities. Now it's time to turn the page.

As we do, I'm mindful that the Iraq war has been a contentious issue at home. Here, too, it's time to turn the page. This afternoon, I spoke to former President George W. Bush. It's well known that he and I disagreed about the war from its outset. Yet no one can doubt President Bush's support for our troops or his love of country and commitment to our security.

As I've said, there were patriots who supported this war and patriots who opposed it. And all of us are united in appreciation for our servicemen and women and our hopes for Iraqis' future.



Regardless, in either case I couldn't disagree more, chicken hawks Bush and Cheney didn't and don't give a rat's ass about supporting the troops and they didn't want to be bothered by security until they totally screwed the pooch on 9/11.

They then used the catastrophe of 9/11 to rape the Constitution, wage a war based on lies, and promote torture, something no President since Washington has condoned, Bush was and is a disgrace.

Thanks for the thread, one_voice.
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