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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:13 AM
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Jeremy Scahill: "Shouldn't be able to leave their houses without being confronted with the death..."
"These people have a Ph.D in lying and a master's degree in manipulating intelligence. And it is, it's really sobering to see this kind of brash historical revisionism happening in real time. The idea that these people want to post some kind of false flag of victory on the corpses of all who have died in Iraq because of their decisions. These people destabilized Iraq, they destabilized the Middle East, with their neo-con vision of redrawing maps, and they didn't even succeed in their own stated mission. This is a special kind of pathological sickness that these individuals are plagued with."

"Pardon me for introducing a little bit of fact onto cable news over these 24 hours, but the reality is there was no success of the surge. The fact is that Bush's policy in Iraq caused massive destabilization, led to a civil war that killed upwards of a million Iraqis; there were ethnic cleansing campaigns. When the surge troops went in there, Baghdad was a walled-off city, the Sunnis had been pushed out and sided with the United States, Muqtada al Sadr responded to the announced timetable for withdrawal that the neo-cons so opposed by saying he considered it a truce with American and pulled his forces off the street... So, the entire surge myth permeates to this day, and its actually one big lie."

"Let's remember... that it was the Bush administration's policy in Iraq that created an al Qaeda presence in that country. It was their policies that destabilized that country and caused the deaths of so many Americans and so many Iraqi civilians. Stephen Hadley probably sees Osama bin Laden at his corner store or hiding in his bathroom somewhere, so... These people have ZERO credibility, and have no business in public life anymore. They shouldn't be able to leave their houses without being confronted with the death and destruction that their lives caused."

- Jeremy Scahill, appearing on Countdown w/ Keith Olbermann, Sep. 1, 2010

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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:20 AM
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1. Another reason to do nothing.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:37 AM
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2. Well
said.
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:40 AM
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3. No shit....
I watched that and my jaw dropped.
Then, I was yelling GODDAMN RIGHT! at my TV.
It was a special moment.
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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 05:06 PM
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33. Same here.
The hatred was dripping from his words. I feel the same hatred towards these war criminals - Jeremy Scahill speaks for me.
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:51 AM
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4. Stunning. It was cathartic to hear someone call out
the criminals of the * cabal so eloquently.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:56 AM
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5. thank you so much for posting -- I was cheering Scahill
A truth-teller!!

A truth-teller.

Finally.

This is the kind of fighter that has been absent from the national discourse.

Another reason to subscribe to The Nation now.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:09 AM
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6. can anyone find an email for Scahill?
I want to thank him.
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MedicalAdmin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 07:45 AM
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13. Don't thank him
Thank his sponsors for supporting him.
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Drops_not_Dope Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:16 PM
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25. try this
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:17 AM
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7. please tweet Keith and thank him for this.
If you use twitter.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:23 AM
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8. kick for truth
:thumbsup:
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:11 AM
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9. Kick so the day shift can see it.
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voteearlyvoteoften Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 05:51 AM
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10. Scahill my new hero
I think I will finally get that subscription to The Nation.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 05:57 AM
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11. K&R
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 07:06 AM
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12. k&r
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burnsei sensei Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:08 AM
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14. I think Scahill's thesis is dead on.
Instead of bringing in a forward-moving element to Iraqi society, we facilitated all its worst reactionary components.
They found tradition, and with it, violence amongst each other.
Saddam Hussein was better for Iraq than we were. And that's a fact our government can't stomach.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:17 AM
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15. Far too much of what passes for "news" these days is really television to keep us stupid.
Kudos to those who buck that trend. :thumbsup:
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 09:11 AM
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16. listening to NPR this morning, I was screaming at my radio...
...when the newscaster referred to Petraeus as having to "repeat the success in Afghanistan." The success he referred to, of course, was the war against Iraq. One of our worst crimes against humanity this decade is now being recast as a "great success." It is sickening. Thank goodness for the few honest journalists like Scahill who speak up when the emperor walks naked.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 09:28 AM
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18. Yeah, kick`
We are being fed bs and told it's ice cream.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:35 PM
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27. NPR National Propaganda Radio.
I no longer listen to a single word.
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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:14 PM
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31. NPR - Nice Polite Republicans
I remember the old public radio. Seems like ages but it was really just 10-15 years ago before Bush* cleaned the leadership out and recast its purpose. Now, they spout careful propoganda with conservative views about 4 to 1. They even have long ads now for "charities".

Yet another Bush* legacy we have to live with.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 06:06 PM
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34. Today someone referred to it as National PETROLEUM Radio.
I wish I had seen that segment with Scahill.

That guy is lucky to still be alive. He's taken on Blackwater/Xe and the Neo-Conspirators-Who-Should-Be-Neo-Convicts from day one. He is truly an American hero.

Rec.
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flor-de-jasmim Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 09:14 AM
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17. Now if those of us with MAs and PhDs could just stop being demonized...
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 07:54 PM
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38. Seriously?
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 07:55 PM by liberation
... I have a PhD, and at least I understood those as figures of speech, and my grad degrees are in science.

I know anti-intelectualism runs rampant in this society, but...
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:19 AM
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19. I saw that last night --
and decided I needed to have Scahill's babies. :loveya:

Wow. Someone who tells the unvarnished Truth about the clusterfuck that was/is Iraq.

Now that's what I want to hear. :applause:
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Liberal_Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:29 AM
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20. K & R
Jeremy Scahill was great last night. One of Countdown's best segments ever.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:30 AM
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21. The images of the results of our bombs and weapons should be plastered all over the networks daily.
You know why they won't let that happen. They learned from Vietnam about what happens when the people see what war is and what their taxes go for.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:32 AM
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22. It's even better reading it. Now THAT is
a 'value' we need across the county. One of my long standing rants, against the rat bastards, was very similar to what Scahill said last night. (every time they walk out the front door, they should see pictures of the death they caused). His passion was so deep and sincere, it even left Keith a little dumb struck for a second or two.
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Yeahyeah Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:08 PM
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23. Sounds like a plan.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:05 PM
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24. Big kick!
:kick:
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:24 PM
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26. Jeremy Scahill speaks the truth like no one else out there.
He also has no problem call out members of his own profession. Big K&R for Scahill!
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howmad1 Donating Member (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 01:47 PM
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28. But, but, but:
We must look forward (Obama). And let these sons-of-bitches bask in their glory of making America a hated third world country. Way to go Obama.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 02:02 PM
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29. THANK YOU
the lies, the war, the torture, the casualties and these lying MISSION ACCOMPLISHED and COMBAT OPERATIONS OVER speeches are sickening beyond belief
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 02:45 PM
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30. Jeremy Scahill
is rock solid. I believe him 100%.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 06:12 PM
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35. +100
Truth to power.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 03:21 PM
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32. I clicked on this OP because Scahill's name was in it.
And I'm not disappointed
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 06:44 PM
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36. Kicking for the truth
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 07:32 PM
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37. Key - "Muqtada al Sadr responded to the announced timetable for withdrawal that the neo-cons so ..."
"Muqtada al Sadr responded to the announced timetable for withdrawal that the neo-cons so opposed by saying he considered it a truce with America"

It was the timetable, not the surge that stopped the violence....
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:47 PM
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39. Also key - "ethnic cleansing" nt
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 09:49 PM
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40. Well said. nm
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:39 PM
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41. K and R!!
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