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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:00 PM
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German military report: Peak oil could lead to collapse of democracy
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 10:56 PM by defendandprotect
German military report: Peak oil could lead to collapse of democracy
By Daniel Tencer
Wednesday, September 1st, 2010 -- 7:48 pm

Peak oil has happened or will happen some time around this year, and its consequences could threaten the continued survival of democratic governments, says a secret Germany military report that was leaked online.

According to Der Spiegel, the report from a think-tank inside the German military warns that shrinking global oil supplies will threaten the world's economic foundations and possibly lead to mass-scale upheaval within the next 15 to 30 years.

International trade would suffer as the cost of transporting goods across oceans would soar, resulting in "shortages in the supply of vital goods," the report states, as translated by Der Spiegel.

The result would be the collapse of the industrial supply chain. "In the medium term the global economic system and every market-oriented national economy would collapse," the report states.


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/0901/german-report-peak-oil-collapse-democracy/



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The first reality we have to absorb is that despite patriarchy's war on nature ...
nature is all and will prevail -- and will play the final cards --

There is no such thing as "Man's Dominion Over Nature" nor "Manifest Destiny" --
that is patriarchy's attempt to give license to exploitation of nature --
natural resources, animal-life -- and even other human beings according to various
myths of "inferiority."

We're reaching 7 billion of us now on this planet -- is there no limit to the
number of ducks on a pond? The number of birds in the sky?
Organized patriarchal religion's control over human production -- the elimination
of natural means of birth control/plants which provided women with options vs
childbirth -- has brought us to this point of insanity.

We've known since the 1950's that a change in culture has to take place --
the 1960 Democratic Platform that JFK ran on called for the Nationalization of the
oil industry. There will be no other alternatives to oil until we nationalize it.

We should also keep in mind as we judge our culture that the MIC uses 80% of the oil
making it a "national scurity" issue -- another bit of cultural insanity.

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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:36 PM
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1. democracy
Oil has inhibited democracy, by powering the people who stand right in the way of reforms. There have been many other alternatives that could have long replaced oil, from biodiesel to hemp-made ethanol, but oil enriched the rural rich.

As far as "nature" goes, our ability to make technology is nature, and unlike people who think we can roll back the clock, we need to use technolgy proper, make greener forms of it. As far as women's liberation goes, Technology brought the medicine which gave them control of their bodies, the machines that make them as or more useful than most men, and even the guns to kill patriachs with. A return to the "good old days" would likely mean more women pregnant, more dead in childbirth, and less food for them to eat and feed their children with.
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jdp349 Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:44 PM
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2. quoi?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:16 PM
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4. Yes -- thought that laughable . .. as "free markets" have only also "harvested slave labor"--!!
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 11:18 PM by defendandprotect
Oil industry propaganda and corporate buying of government is what has crippled
our attempt at democracy -- as intended!

If we want alternative energy, then we have to NATIONALIZE the oil industry --
won't happen without doing that.

But here, I disagree . . .

As far as "nature" goes, our ability to make technology is nature, and unlike people who think we can roll back the clock, we need to use technolgy proper, make greener forms of it.

Can human technology replace nature? Create a tree from scratch?

This false sense of creation = Frankenstein/See Mary Shelley on that -- and Mel Brooks!

I don't see where anyone wants to "roll back the clock" -- except perhaps to undo the pollution
that capitalism and technology have brought us -- from the Industrial Revolution to Atomic bombs!

After 300 years of male involvement in physics, what we got was an atomic bomb!

GREEN JOBS galore just to clean up this mess -- endless green jobs!

Re this . . .

As far as women's liberation goes, Technology brought the medicine which gave them control of their bodies

In fact, nature provided all those NATURAL means of birth control thru plants --
including ways to interrupt conception and to create permanent infertility. All of those
natural means/plants were destroyed by patriarchy -- and most of the information about those means.

RU-486 is based on a plant design -- believe papaya -- which is still used by women in the South
Seas -- it contains an ingredient which keeps a fertilized egg from imbedding into the wall of
the uterus. Again -- most of these plants and information about them were destroyed by patriarchy.


I'd also comment that when we discuss patriarchy we have to also understand that it isn't only
women's liberation which is at stake -- most men are not "patriarchs" and while they do not
suffer the exact same oppressions that females suffer under patriarchy, it does also limit their
freedoms and options.

And again . . . no one I'm aware of -- except perhaps YOU - is suggesting that anyone wants
to go back to any "good old days."

the machines that make them as or more useful than most men, and even the guns to kill patriachs with. A return to the "good old days" would likely mean more women pregnant, more dead in childbirth, and less food for them to eat and feed their children with.

Nor to go forward into some new realm of violence -- guns, "Wild West America."


Destruction is the way of patriarchy -- it's underpinning, Organized patriarchal religion --
and it's economic invention = capitalism. The Unholy Trinity.





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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 12:22 AM
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5. Technology
Man cannot create a tree, though people can and do breed plants, and I do not mean monsanto, I mean Corn, which was a grass, and got bred into what we know today.

as far as rolling back the clock, read books like "Endgame", works that sound pretty, until you realize the plans require a LOT of people to die.

As far as medicine, most women would prefer a clinic rather than a plant. Yes medicine comes from plants, but not without lots of good old fashioned testing to avoid error, and skill to avoid killing the person. You might be able to sell this herbalist stuff to some people, but the folks at Planned Parenthood would, could and should make sure you, nor anyone else is able to mess with their nice clean modern Women's health clinics.

As far as guns go, I was referring to the fact that Vietcong women mostly won the war..of course, after the war, where they kicked American ass, both the tribal leaders and the Communist government wanted female veterans to quit the army and embrace more "traditional" roles. Of course, many people, including the ladies, thought these women were ruined, so after winning the war, many of these soldiers wound up living lonely, ostracized lives. It was not just the Yanks that did not get a welcome home from that war. I bring this up to show that progress is not just made by people wanting to "roll back" to older roles, the reason why Vietnam did not become just another festering ex french colony was done by women that exploited every bit of tech they could to win, only to be hated because they were not "natural."
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:24 AM
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6. There are 7 billion of us on the planet .... obviously that's not sustainable --
and presume you're also referring to the Rand plan, etal --

Many are already dying from effects of Global Warming --

Man has always been frustrated by his lack of ability to create life --
See: Mary Shelley and Mel Brooks

As far as medicine, most women would prefer a clinic rather than a plant. Yes medicine comes from plants, but not without lots of good old fashioned testing to avoid error, and skill to avoid killing the person. You might be able to sell this herbalist stuff to some people, but the folks at Planned Parenthood would, could and should make sure you, nor anyone else is able to mess with their nice clean modern Women's health clinics.

What I am saying to you is that in RU486 WOMEN ARE AGAIN USING A PLANT --
When we understand that lemon juice will kill sperm, we bigin to understand the past and
the power of plants. Again -- much of that information -- a world of it -- was taken from
women and families. Women were our original herbalists and doctors -- all overturned by
patriarchal violence. Women were the midwives -- the doctors. Today's artificial medicines
are notorious for side effects which are very harmful to patients.
Knowledge is power and patriarchy is generally working to destroy knowledge and personal power.

Whatever negative experiences are going on in Vietenam, they usually have something to do with
the effects of colonialism on that nation -- what has been taught to them by the French and/or
the United States. What is left of their natural disposition and societies were all certainly
impacted by French and US warmaking on them. Look at our own distorted and corrupted culture
in military life! We can't even put women into military life, military academies, or into the
privatized/Blackwater without seeing them brutally gang-raped!!

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antigone382 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:10 PM
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3. It doesn't have to.
http://www.transitionus.org/

Transition US is a nonprofit organization that provides inspiration, encouragement, support, networking, and training for Transition Initiatives across the United States. We are working in close partnership with the Transition Network, a UK based organization that supports the international Transition Movement as a whole.

The Transition Movement is a vibrant, grassroots movement that seeks to build community resilience in the face of such challenges as peak oil, climate change and the economic crisis. It represents one of the most promising ways of engaging people in strengthening their communities against the effects of these challenges, resulting in a life that is more abundant, fulfilling, equitable and socially connected.

We believe that we can make the transition to a more sustainable world. We hope that you will join us.

(snip)

My town has just started their transition initiative and I'm currently working on a document which will present a series of recommendations for a low carbon future to the town council. The primary focus of the transition initiative is revitalizing local economies in realistic, sustainable ways.

Here are a few more links related to the transition movement that I encourage you to check out if you haven't done so:

http://www.transitionnetwork.org/

http://www.postcarbon.org/

Something else from the site that I thought was valuable:

Cheerful Disclaimer

Just in case you were under the impression that Transition is a process defined by people who have all the answers, you need to be aware of a key fact.

We truly don't know if this will work. Transition is a social experiment on a massive scale.

What we are convinced of is this:

If we wait for the governments, it'll be too little, too late
If we act as individuals, it'll be too little
But if we act as communities, it might just be enough, just in time.
Everything that you read on this site is the result of real work undertaken in the real world with community engagement at its heart. This site, just like the transition model, is brought to you by people who are actively engaged in transition in a community. People who are learning by doing - and learning all the time. People who understand that we can't sit back and wait for someone else to do the work. People like you.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:26 AM
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7. Interesting -- will try to read the links later -- thanks!
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