Fans Brawl At U.S. Open

[WillParkinson]

Fans Brawl At U.S. Open

Fans descended on a young man at the U.S. Open yesterday after he argued with a woman seated near him. Watch what happens after the woman's elderly father comes to her defense. Huffington Post has the incident from another angle. Apparently it all started because the younger man was shouting obscenities at the players. (Links have video of the brawl.)




Joe.My.God: http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/09/fans-brawl-at-us-open.html

Huffington Post: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/09/03/us-open-fight-video-fans-_n_704613.html

[ZombieHorde]

1. *Googles U.S. Open* What is with people starting fights at sporting events? nt

[Cal Carpenter]

2. Ahhh, I was watching that match last nite

and wondering what the commotion was all about.. the commentators were commenting that it looked like someone fell (musta been when the older man tumbled down a row or two there) and the game play stopped for a couple minutes. But there was no camera aiming up there so I was clueless.

Thanks for the links. The joemygod one has better audio so you can actually hear what a jackass that younger guy was... 'I got a lot of money on this match..' He musta been in the wrong because the audience was chanting 'throw the bum out!' LOL

[bigwillq]

19. The commentators did say it was a fight

at first they thought someone fell, but then they said that it appears as if a fight broke out.

[alfredo]

21. Isn't that guy a character on "The Jersey Shore"?

[Fire1]

51. From all accounts he was wrong and should have been

thrown out long before the argument ensued. I blame the officials. They suck.

[Evasporque]

3. Tennis hooliganism must be dealt with.....nt

[Lochloosa]

4. If he was shouting obscenities then he should have been thrown out.

The women and old man should have been arrested for assault.

[marmar]

5. All clASS......

It was funny watching Novak Djokovic's reaction to it last night. He looked like he was ready to grab some popcorn.

[TreasonousBastard]

6. Brawl? That piece of shit threw the old guy over the seats and the crowd just...

held him down instead of justifiably beating the living fuck out of him.

(Just watching that useless shitbag with his mouth and his pointing made me almost kick the cat.)

[EOTE]

8. After that old man assaulted him.

So yeah, the geezer got what he deserved. Pointing at people doesn't cause them physical injury, assaulting them does.

[TreasonousBastard]

17. You have to watch both videos-- it only looked like a kick in the first one.

[truebrit71]

9. Umm..did you miss that part where the old man attacked him first?

..the old man walked over and attacked the lippy young guy..that "piece of shit" was defending himself from the old guy's attack...

[TreasonousBastard]

15. One of the videos it looked liked he kicked the mouth, but in the other one...

it was pretty clear that the mouth got up and possibly started pushing-- there was no kick.

[truebrit71]

24. Wow..not even close..the JMG vid clearly shows the old geezer initiating the attack...

..old guy kicked then hit the yong guy as he stood up..

It's clear as day..Not sure how anyone could be confused..

[Hassin Bin Sober]

32. The JMG video even captures the "smack" and crowd reaction when the old man hits the young man.

[TreasonousBastard]

42. The huffpo video (1:09) has the smack, too, but since the geezer's leg...

wasn't moving at the time, it was apparently from something else.

[TreasonousBastard]

41. Look at 1:09 on the huffpo video-- there was no kick. The mouth...

got up while the geezer was just getting past the guy sitting next to him.

[madmom]

14. He did not throw the old man over the seats. If you watch it closer the old man had a hold

of the young guy and looked like he twisted and fell back-wards over the seats. His own fault. Too bad people have to be such dicks. The young guy has a good chase IMO. Sue their asses off, maybe then they'll learn to keep their hands to themselves.

[TreasonousBastard]

18. Did you watch BOTH videos?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

20. Yes.

In both videos the old prick clearly sucker punches the kid as he's seated.

The old guy got what he was asking for.

[truebrit71]

25. Yup. Both times the old guy attacked first.

nt

[madmom]

35. Yes I did. Same conclusion.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

16. What a bizarre interpretation of that video.

Sometimes I think there really is some sort of alternate reality that people slip in an out of.

It's a thought I often have on DU when discussing videos like this. More often it's with cop defenders defending things like throwing suspects face first in to plate glass windows.

How anyone can see the young man get slapped, do nothing, try to dis-engage on at least two occasions, sit down, get struck again by the old man and attacked by the old man WHILE SEATED and THEN defend himself - not by punches, not by continuing the fight once the threat was handled - But he is the bad guy who through an old guy over the seats.

Bizarre.

[TreasonousBastard]

22. Another one who didn't watch BOTH videos. And, ummm, it was the crowd who was...

there who wanted the mouth thrown out.

Disengage? The sorry bastard couldn't just shut up and sit down instead of pissing off half the stadium?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

28. Both videos showed the same thing, and the opposite of what you're claiming.

Who are we supposed to believe? You, or our own lying eyes?

What exactly are you trying to accomplish here?

[TreasonousBastard]

43. That you watch 1:09 of the Huffpo video and still say you see the geezer kicking.

[asdjrocky]

29. I watched BOTH videos twice.

Sure, he may have been a loud mouth and an asshole, but they attacked him first. The old man got what he deserved and he's lucky he wasn't really hurt by that kid.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

31. I watched ALL the videos.

The Joe.My.God video provides the best information because it includes audio.

You can't watch that video without seeing the man disengage by sitting down at least two times including when he was struck. He was stuck (the audio makes this very clear) by the old man WHILE SEATED.

Regarding the crowd: There's no doubt the young man wasn't popular with those seated around him. This is, no doubt, due to his big mouth. But pay attention to the comments of the guys making the video posted on Huffington - something to the affect "Dude, we got your back, you were jumped."

I was going to go back and edit my post to give you the benefit of the doubt because some of the other videos weren't as clear how things unfolded ... but if you are going to tell me, after watching the Joe.My.God video, that old man didn't waddle over and strike that young man AFTER things had pretty much settled down and he had taken his seat, I have nothing further to say to you.

Good day.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

52. He didn't throw him over the seats. The older man attacked him first and appears to have lost his

footing.

It is very clear in the second video.

[T Wolf]

7. No matter what the young guy was saying, he DID NOT escalate the event. The woman

physically assaulted him first (the slap). He responded in a BS macho way, but did not hit back!

Even after he sat down, that couple kept going at him. The old man further escalated it by kicking and then attacking him physically, again.

They were in the wrong, even more than his verbal behavior.

I hope he sues them for a ton. With the video evidence, he should win.

[Smarmie Doofus]

13. Correct.

They're all idiots but the video indicates that both the woman and the older man escalated the encounter at two separate points.

Interesting that some of the fans, most of the security and some DUers perceived it the other way around.

[Steely_Dan]

10. The Natives Are Restless Tonight...

New Yorkers...gotta love 'em.

-P

[Codeine]

11. Stay classy. nt

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

12. That was better than tennis.

[redwitch]

23. Freedom of speech.

Young dude was an arrogant foul loudmouth. We stopped going to certain games with our kids because the behavior was so awful. She shouldn't have slapped him though. Security needs to control out of control people at public events.

I can't believe the comments people posted-"hottie" was ill used. "Fat bitch" should get sued. We are becoming a nation of shallow, vulgar, no class trash.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

33. I tend to agree.

There's little doubt the young man was being a jerk.

I don't even doubt the other people's right to ask/tell him to shut up - But when it became very clear he had no intention of granting their wish they should have disengaged and contacted security who would have ask him to tone it down or leave.

On a similar note: I wonder what goes on in that family that it's OK for the woman to strike that guy and not have her father attempt to restrain her. Instead, he escalates the attack after it appeared to have settled down and/or the woman was leaving the seat - presumably to get security.

I would be curious to see what went on in her home-life that violence is so easily resorted to AND encouraged by the father.

I hope there are no kids/grandkids.

[truebrit71]

36. "We are becoming a nation of shallow, vulgar, no class trash." Welcome to Jersey Shore...

...absolutely NO idea why that show is as popular as it is...none of the characters in it appear to have any socially redeeming qualities whatsoever..

[redwitch]

37. There's a lot of that going around.

Sadly, Jersey does not have the market cornered.

[Gin]

44. I agree...it is embarrassing.

[joeybee12]

26. Hey, this being New York, I'm just surprised more people didn't join in!

:evilgrin:

[cherokeeprogressive]

27. Who knew hockey fans attended tennis matches?

Stay classy New York.

[mmonk]

38. You must have us confused with soccer fans (football)

[cherokeeprogressive]

45. That's funny... I thought I typed soccer. I really did. n/t

[deacon]

49. I'm going to start watching tennis for the fights. n/t

[Fumesucker]

30. I never cared for golf in the first place.. n/t

[redwitch]

34. You silly!

:-)

[Liberal_in_LA]

39. holy sh*t. Old guy brung it! Seems like everyone physically attacked the young man

1st though.

[SidDithers]

40. While the young guy may have been an ass...

it was the woman and the old guy that attacked him.

Hope they're charged with assault.

Sid

[ThomWV]

46. That's sure how it looked to me on both tapes

and I was amazed at the cowardly bastards that rushed the boy after the old bastard attacked him. They should have grabbed the old man and threw him out from what I saw.

[USArmyParatrooper]

47. ALL THREE of them were wrong

The young guy - Yelling obscenities at that type of event. It's not a football game, different culture.

The woman - BIG no no for hitting the guy. I do not believe in hitting women, but on the flip side women shouldn't be taking advantage of the fact that men aren't supposed to hit them.

The old man - For initiating a physical altercation with a young man. If he broke his hip it would be his own fault.

I watched closely and the young guy did NOT hit the woman or the old man. In fact, the old man is who caused the two of them to fall.

[deacon]

48. After the match the fans stormed the court and ripped down the net :)))

:rofl:

[aikoaiko]

50. Heard on video, " where is security?" . The answer: sitting on their thumbs

If the mouthy guy was yelling obscentities, then security should have been there.

Security most definitely should have intervened as all three parties started to argue, but I know why they weren't. This is NY and scenes like that play out all the time without physical incident. This is why his friend is just kicking back between them. I used to chuckle as I watched these scenes play our on the lower east side.

The old guy initiated the physical assault, lost his balance and pulled the mouthy guy down the chairs. If someone did that to me, I would start beating the person who sent me tumbling couldn't move. Instead the mouthy guy just gets up and walks away in disbelief. Then the daughter starts to slap him around and he pushes her away and steps back. Very reasonable if you ask me.

The mouthy guy was mouthy and should have been addressed by security, but apparently security was not interested in becoming involved. I would have asked him to keep it down and if it persisted then ask security.

All three should be banned from the US Open for life.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

53. On the Huff Post video, the person taping it asked where's security because the woman hit the young

young guy in the face. You can't see her hitting him in the HuffPost video but you do see it on the first.