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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:35 PM
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••• Scientists predict mass extinctions, man-caused new geologic epoch. Don't forget not to vote •••




Okay. We must not be doomsayers. After all, THAT WOULD BE ALARMIST.

All alarms must be false. Just ask the GOP who don't believe in global warming.

And don't vote on Election Day. After all, both parties are identical.

Here's the story the GOP doesn't want you to think about:


MASS EXTINCTION PREDICTED BY SCIENTISTS ----

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20100902/sc_livescience/massextinctionthreatearthonvergeofhugeresetbutton


NEW GEOLOGIC EPOCH STARTING, CAUSED BY MAN -----

http://www.livescience.com/environment/080127-new-epoch.html



So don't worry. Forget about the election. Do not be ALARMIST. We didn't get everything we wanted from Obama.

So stay home on Election Day.


Your local Republican fascist thanks you.




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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:40 PM
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1. Like a vote to sustain these Dems would make a difference?
You just HAVE to be shitting me!!!!!

This has been known for several generations and it cannot be seen or heard above the pro-corporatists lobbying.

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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:57 PM
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7. Democrats in the House passed climate legislation. It was only blocked in the Senate.


But forget about that. Both parties are identical.

Stay home on election day.

Stay home, smoke some weed, play Monopoly and say "Dig on it!" while the world goes to hell.






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h8okra Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:44 PM
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2. Hmmmm. I wonder if Embryonic Stem
Cell research could be of value in finding a way to help adapt mankind to the extreme changes that we have forced nature has in store?
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:48 PM
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4. We could breed ourselves down to the size of a mouse
That way, we wouldn't need to consume so much food, need so much acreage to house ourselves or consume so much energy.

Then, when the planet has healed completely, we could breed ourselves back to normal size.
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 02:00 PM
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8. Sure, but it might be easier just to quit driving.
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h8okra Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 04:24 PM
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36. Even on DU
I do not see any sign that people are willing to make large changes in their lifestyle to adequately address climate change. Maybe many feel that if they bring their carbon footprint to 0 a conservative will just use twice as much carbon and wipe out our sacrifice.
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Iterate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 07:54 PM
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38. Well, that's one of the cooperative dilemmas.
The usual/ordinary suburban US lifestyle takes about 6-8 earths, or earth equivalents, to support it. The more affluent middle-class could easily get to ten. With some diligence I learned to live at a sustainable level.

What I learned was that there are limits to what an individual can do, especially anything short of helping to collapse the entire world economy. This is partly because of the wars and our collective responsibility for them, and partly because any economic activity runs through organizations which are certainly not sustainable.

I don't worry though about what conservatives do. Sustainable means just that -and sooner or later it must all come due.

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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:47 PM
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3. What's a little mass extinction where spite is concerned? nt
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:49 PM
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5. Adapt or die.
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Cleobulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:52 PM
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6. This isn't really news, there's even a name, the Holocene Extinction...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 02:02 PM
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You can distinguish geologic time scales
from human time scales right?

And by the way... this has been the talk of the town for at least ten years. (At least amongst those of us who follow science

Worst case scenario humans (apex species) will go away in the next 1000 years. Best case, since we are tool makers we find a way to survive.

Either way... we are expecting a population crash. But not starting in November....

There are days...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 02:02 PM
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9. You can distinguish geologic time scales
from human time scales right?

And by the way... this has been the talk of the town for at least ten years. (At least amongst those of us who follow science

Worst case scenario humans (apex species) will go away in the next 1000 years. Best case, since we are tool makers we find a way to survive.

Either way... we are expecting a population crash. But not starting in November....

There are days...
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 02:07 PM
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10. Thank God this will all be debunked by Beck and Limbaugh.
:shrug:
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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 02:40 PM
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11. Yep, and Hannity, Coulter, Palin and Angle.


I feel so much better.

I think I'll play hooky on Election Day, go fishing.

In the Gulf of Mexico........



No need to vote.


Voting's for sissies.


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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 02:43 PM
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12. Vote Democratic or we'll all die is not the most rational argument.
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 05:07 PM
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26. It almost makes you want to...
...storm the Discovery Channel corporate offices.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 02:45 PM
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13. Personally I hope hope the fakes in the Democrats will go away too
I will no longer lift a finger to save people who don't put the environment, war and human righs at the top of their agenda.

A little weeny slightly better doesn't cut it anymore.
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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 02:48 PM
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14. Good thinking. Only selected Democrats should win. That way the GOP will take over.



Fascism should not be criticized. Democracy was good in its day, but it just didn't have what it took to go the distance. Let the GOP win.



Thomas Jefferson founded the Democratic Party.

But who the hell was he?


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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 02:51 PM
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15. Lol. Little weeny slightly better doesn't cut it anymore. Sorry. n/t
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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 03:02 PM
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16. Good point. Sarah Palin will make a great president......



Personally I'm looking forward to the GOP activating those concentration camps they built.



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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 03:18 PM
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19. doesn't cut it as a campaign slogan either
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 03:19 PM by mitchtv
nor does the poster's "sara Palin fright wig"
unrecc
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:34 PM
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24. Why stand for anything when all you have to do is point at someone and declare, "They're worse!".
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 03:12 PM
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18. Thomas Jefferson, "founder of the Democratic Party" said..
"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all." Thomas Jefferson to Francis Hopkinson, 1789.

"Were parties here divided merely by a greediness for office,...to take a part with either would be unworthy of a reasonable or moral man." Thomas Jefferson to William Branch Giles, 1795.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 03:04 PM
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17. Whatever....
I wasn't planning on staying home election day... but I tell you what, in the last few days I have seen many rude, nasty, and vaguely insulting posts just like this one. At least you were clever enough to not directly tell anyone to go to hell, but your post still reeks of the nasty "vote or die" bullshit I have been seeing. It's a pity I have no choice but to join rude nasty folks like you on election day. I'll be there but I'll be hating every minute of it thanks to people like you.
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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 03:39 PM
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22. I'm with you, walldude, Ralph Nader was right to be a purist in 2000.


Like, what could possibly have gone wrong with voting for Nader in 2000?

It's not as if it started a new war or something.

and 3000 people never died on 911 because Bush sure knew how to protect America.


So yeah, let's be perfectionists, stay at home, or vote for another party.



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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 05:16 PM
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27. Actually you are not with me...
You see, I'd like to keep our majorities so I'm not running around insulting people to try and get their vote. It's really not the way to bring people to your side. I actually believe Obama is doing a pretty shitty job, and I'm damn vocal about it.

It's really hard to vote for an administration and it's supporters when they denigrate you for "not getting your pony" and then call you an idiot because you don't want to vote for them.


If the Democrats lose this election it won't be the fault of the people who didn't vote. It will be the fault of the leaders and the people who support them that call us "fucking R******" and then piss and moan like little whiners about Sarah Palin in 2012.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 03:20 PM
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20. I've long thought there has been an agenda to have kids love dinosaurs: Extinct species rock!
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 03:21 PM
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21. so when people say they won't support the candidate you want to vote for
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 03:21 PM by fascisthunter
that equates to staying at home... here's a clue: it's called DEMOCRACY and posts like these won't change voter's minds who have principles.
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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:00 PM
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23. Wow! Democracy! Like, there have been no servers hacked!


So what could POSSIBLY go wrong with letting the GOP win?!

After all, we're busy having fun voting for 3rd parties that don't win! Or staying home!

Let's all vote for Nader or his friends. After all, this is a parliamentary democracy and there is no 2-party system.


The reason there is a 2 party system in this country is that it is IN THE CONSTITUTION. The fact of having district voting automatically makes 2 parties because only the top 2 parties have a chance. You can't elect a fifth of a congressman in a district.

So here's what. Let's bitch about the lack of choices and belly ache about the 2 party system and say we'll vote when America becomes a parliamentary republic. Let's boycott 2 centuries of American history.

What could possibly go wrong with that? Let's give the GOP a clear field;


Stay home. I gotta feel good at the country's expense.




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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 05:49 PM
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31. your fears will not dictate what I do as a voter
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 05:51 PM by fascisthunter
this is how democracy works... you can stomp your feet all you want. Once again, I didn't say I would stay home and I'd appreciate if you would stop repeating that BS meme. Thank you in advance.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 04:40 PM
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25. Yeah, right...

And how much different is this administrations handling of BP's spill from what the previous administration would have done? Not much I think, deference to Capital trumps human and environmental considerations in either case.

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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 05:20 PM
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28. What we really need is for the GOP to take over. That will *educate* us on the difference.


But hey. Obama is no better than George Bush.


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breadandwine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 05:23 PM
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29. Because as we all know, when Palin becomes president, she will appoint Supreme Court Justices




just like Obama's picks.


No difference!


Stay home and eat Stay Puff marshmallows.......







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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 05:23 PM
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30. Not to rain on the parade, but scientists already claim that right now
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 05:25 PM by Rex
we are living in a time of mass extinction. Not prediction, but reality happening right now. imho an alarm means you have time to do something about the problem, we moved out of the realm of alarm and into our next stage of existence years ago.




Now go out and vote for a DEM and call every Repuke on their lies about the environment when you get a chance. I do.





Global Warming? Fuck that, time for a global Climate Change...better hope for the best in your region of the world.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 06:01 PM
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32. But some REALtm Progressives told me Al Gore and Bush were exactly the same
It's all just so confusing.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 06:08 PM
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33. Vote for Democrats or else we'll all die?
We are doomed as a species no matter what we do right now, unless we adapt and evolve (and make some real nifty tools that allow us to manipulate atoms at will and leave our solar system).

Nevertheless, I am voting for Democrats because the only other choices are corpofascist repukes and inbred Tea Baggers. Those stupid repuke fuckheads will make ME extinct if they are not removed.

There is no need to use 'end of days' fear mongering to get people to vote. Just demonstrate to undecided voters the pros and cons of one party or another. Leave fear mongering to the likes of Beck and Hannity, and then we'll make fun of them, thereby nullifying most of their efforts (and wasting GOP money).



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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 06:21 PM
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34. It isn't politics that is destroying this planet, it is people,
The painful fact of the matter is that we simply have too many people on this planet, we have gone past the carrying capacity for this planet.

This isn't a Republican thing, this isn't a Democratic thing, it is a human thing. We are and have behaved like any other species that finds itself with an abundance of resources, our population has followed a J curve, rising sharply, past the point where the population can be sustained. We are now going to see the crash.

It isn't D, it isn't R, it is simply humans responding like the animals they are.
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h8okra Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 07:14 PM
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35. It would only be fair
that the Republicans and tea Parties be the first groups to become extinct.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-04-10 04:25 PM
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37. You realize we're all going to die anyway, right?
It helps to remember that sometimes.
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