Two friends of ours got their health insurance bill this past week - up 50%

[ThomWV]

Two of our friends saw increases in their health insurance costs in the last week - and both are mad as hell. Both were up by 50%, one privately purchased and the other purchased through their (now) non-union job. We're all next.

[Fumesucker]

1. Thank God It Passed!.. n/t

[Hell Hath No Fury]

2. And we've been handcuffed --

to these greedy fucks. :mad:

[area51]

9. +1

Each day, 273 people die due to lack of health care in the U.S.; that's 100,000 deaths per year.

We need single-payer health care, not a welfare bailout for the serial-killer insurance agencies.

We don't need the GingrichCare of mandated, unregulated, for-profit insurance that is still too expensive, only pays parts of medical bills, denies claims, and bankrupts people. Republinazi '93 plan:

"Subtitle F: Universal Coverage - Requires each citizen or lawful permanent resident to be covered under a qualified health plan or equivalent health care program by January 1, 2005."

"We will never have real reform until people's health stops being treated as a financial opportunity for corporations."

[gulliver]

3. Signifying nothing. Sorry, but this ain't science. It's dummy bait. n/t

[Skittles]

7. ???

it's happening all over, because nothing in that ridiculous HCR bill addressed costs

[gulliver]

8. It means nothing whatsoever. Its anecdotal and emotional.

It screams nonsense. The OP might have 100 other friends who saw a reduction in costs or a smaller cost increase under HCR. Those friends might not say anything, because their costs haven't done anything unusual. The gripers are more inclined to talk. And that's just one of a sea of other valid objections.

Nothing is happening "all over" unless statistics and verifiable evidence say it is. For there to be any reason even to begin to suspect that HCR is a problem, there would need to be sound evidence, not some story from some guy about some people somewhere who were mad.

I'm sorry if the poster and others are mad, but they are mad for no reason at all.

[Skittles]

10. LOL

uh huh :rofl:

[ThomWV]

12. You're right, but on once of those cases the same rate increase applied to all other workers

and the place where the guy works happens to be the largest single employer in the town he works in. By the way, I haven't seen a dime of increase in my rate, and won't until January, but its with some certainty that I can tell you I don't know anyone who's rate has gone down so you're wrong on the "smaller cost" you suggested.

[FarPoint]

13. Exactly!

All this angry fear jargon is just that.
.." the sky is falling " said Chicken Little
...crap

[moparlunatic]

4. Why should this surprise anyone?

Health care is not just going to eat any increased costs. They just pass the costs on to us and now we have to have it whether we can afford it or not.

[zipplewrath]

5. Seems like we need Health Care Reform

I seem to remember talking about that some where.

[Skittles]

6. I truly hope no one is surprised

because you'd really have to have your head up your ass to be surprised

[Barack_America]

11. Looks like everything is going according to the administration's plan.

[Imajika]

14. The problem is people assocate Democrats...

...with everything healthcare now.

If their rates go up, but LESS than they would have, they are STILL going to blame us.

The problem is the bill we passed will not, at least for some time, have enough noticeable benefits for enough people for it to help us politically.

As rates go up, and with an opposition party and media blaming it on Democrats, I am not sure HCR will get any more popular. It is no wonder many/most Dems are basically running away from it.